How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell?

Warpath · 11-13-2006, 01:58 PM

I've heard and read many different places that JC might not be completely ready to step in. Remember what happened with Ramsey? He was shoved in there and had NO chance. He lost all his confindence and has been damaged goods ev er since. My question to the board is, How will you feel if Todd Collins is named the starter instead of JC?

Daseal · 11-13-2006, 02:01 PM

I'm not sold on the whole damaged goods thing. He looked pretty solid in that bears game before he got yanked.

Anyhow, at this point Ill try anyone but Mark Brunell. I find it a bit silly not to have the future taking snaps. Some QBs just need to get their feet in the fire to understand the game. We need to evaluate Campbell, we're out of the playoffs, and Mark Brunell probably wont be back due to salary cap restrictions (and the constant vandalism of his house...)

illdefined · 11-13-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Anyhow, at this point Ill try anyone but Mark Brunell. I find it a bit silly not to have the future taking snaps. Some QBs just need to get their feet in the fire to understand the game. We need to evaluate Campbell, we're out of the playoffs, and Mark Brunell probably wont be back due to salary cap restrictions (and the constant vandalism of his house...)

sorry about that, and it wasn't vandalism, it was a kidnap attempt. he just wasn't there. i probably should've checked Gibb's house.

Warpath · 11-13-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I'm not sold on the whole damaged goods thing. He looked pretty solid in that bears game before he got yanked.

Anyhow, at this point Ill try anyone but Mark Brunell. I find it a bit silly not to have the future taking snaps. Some QBs just need to get their feet in the fire to understand the game. We need to evaluate Campbell, we're out of the playoffs, and Mark Brunell probably wont be back due to salary cap restrictions (and the constant vandalism of his house...)

I agree 100% that the Skins need to try out their future QB and see if he will be the future. They need to find out what the kid has. I just posted the question because its not out of the realm of possibilities.

61cad · 11-13-2006, 02:02 PM

If Collins starts, fire the whole damn coaching staff!

illdefined · 11-13-2006, 02:04 PM

i'd feel like Campbell (and his draft choice to trade up for him) were complete losses, because Gibbs has no faith in him after two years in camp. to put in another washedup QB only this time, a career backup, ahead of Campbell would basically confirm it.

and i totally don't get the reasoning at all for not putting in a fresh QB when the team "is doing bad". when the hell do you put him in? when they are doing well?? ask Parcells when a good time to change a struggling veteran QB is - may even be at the HALF when you are trying to WIN a game, gasp. you forge steel from a fire.

Longtimefan · 11-13-2006, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by illdefined

i'd feel like Campbell (and his draft choice to trade up for him) were complete losses, because Gibbs has no faith in him after two years in camp. to put in another washedup QB only this time, a career backup, ahead of Campbell would basically confirm it.

and i totally don't get the reasoning at all for not putting in a fresh QB when the team "is doing bad". when the hell do you put him in? when they are doing well?? ask Parcells when a good time to change a struggling veteran QB is - may even be at the HALF when you are trying to WIN a game, gasp. you forge steel from a fire.

I completely agree with your sense of logic because it makes all the sense in the world. The thing that's so disheartning is that Joe Gibbs obviously dosen't see it that way, and that's disturbing to us as fans. He will be the first one to recognize, and pay respect to the fact that this team has great fans, and a great fan base, but to insult our intelligence by constantly attempting to make us believe Brunell is playing well, and the problems with the offense are not due in part to his ineptitude is just plain misleading. For the life of me, I cannot understand why it's so difficult for Gibbs to just come out and say Brunell is not playing well, and move on in another direction which will benefit the team long term. It's time to see what we have in Jason Campbell, he may not be the answer either. He has his critics already despite the fact we haven't seen very much of him. If he's not the answer, what better time to find out than now?

Hog1 · 11-13-2006, 02:04 PM

On Redskin lunch, larry is saying it will be JC. Bram is predicting Todd.
By the way, the job was Ramsey's to lose...............he did, and in NY as well. If he is that fragile psychologically, he can't be in the NFL.

TheMalcolmConnection · 11-13-2006, 02:05 PM

I don't even care at this point. I'll take anyone over Brunell. Like I said in another thread, if you can at least manage the game, you already are Brunell's equal.

ArtMonkDrillz · 11-13-2006, 02:06 PM

I would be thoroughly disappointed in our coaching staff for not making a first round draft pick ready to start after a year and a half. He's been around the team long enough that he should be ready now or he'll never be. I mea, who's to say sitting for 2 whole years on a floundering team won't destroy his confidence more than taking his lumps.
I would also lose faith in the coaching staff because I would feel like they are too blind to see that neither Brunell nor Collins can be QB of the future for the Redskins.

We seriously need to know ASAP if Campbell can be the QB that we all hope he is, because we can't waste another year trying to teach some free agent Saunder's damn system.

So to sum up, I'd be really pissed if it were collins.

jbcjr14 · 11-13-2006, 02:09 PM

I agree, you need to find out what kind of player he is and if he can handle the heat and show improvement over the next 7 weeks. If he can't, you have to make a move or try something else in the offseason to fix the QB position.

724Skinsfan · 11-13-2006, 02:10 PM

Complaining about Collins being the starter will commence at the start of the 2nd Quarter.

skinsguy · 11-13-2006, 02:11 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a QB change that it would be Todd Collins. I'd rather see Jason Campbell in there, but there is apparently a reason why Todd is #2 and Campbell is #3.

Until we lose 8 games, Brunell is the starting QB unless he is otherwise hurt.

Gmanc711 · 11-13-2006, 02:11 PM

I'm telling you right now, I will freak out of Todd Collins starts at QB for this team. Like I'll need to go to the looney bin to calm down in one of those rubber rooms.

There are two quarterbacks that should be avalible this offseason (Leftwitch and Trent Green) that I would love to see brought in if Campbell can't cut it. So Lets find out NOW how he can do. We have lost the season, it makes no freaking sense not to play him.

EternalEnigma21 · 11-13-2006, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I'm telling you right now, I will freak out of Todd Collins starts at QB for this team. Like I'll need to go to the looney bin to calm down in one of those rubber rooms.

There are two quarterbacks that should be avalible this offseason (Leftwitch and Trent Green) that I would love to see brought in if Campbell can't cut it. So Lets find out NOW how he can do. We have lost the season, it makes no freaking sense not to play him.

I'd agree 100% with wanting leftwitch in here. Green is on the downslope and that would leave us searching again in a couple of years. Leftwitch is a gunslinger and young.

Find out if Campbell will give you what you want now, and take advantage of the possible availablility of some current QBs that can be great choices for your franchise.

11-13-2006, 01:58 PM	#1
Warpath The Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Potomac Falls, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,762	How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I've heard and read many different places that JC might not be completely ready to step in. Remember what happened with Ramsey? He was shoved in there and had NO chance. He lost all his confindence and has been damaged goods ev er since. My question to the board is, How will you feel if Todd Collins is named the starter instead of JC?

11-13-2006, 02:02 PM	#5
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? If Collins starts, fire the whole damn coaching staff! __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

11-13-2006, 02:04 PM	#6
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? i'd feel like Campbell (and his draft choice to trade up for him) were complete losses, because Gibbs has no faith in him after two years in camp. to put in another washedup QB only this time, a career backup, ahead of Campbell would basically confirm it. and i totally don't get the reasoning at all for not putting in a fresh QB when the team "is doing bad". when the hell do you put him in? when they are doing well?? ask Parcells when a good time to change a struggling veteran QB is - may even be at the HALF when you are trying to WIN a game, gasp. you forge steel from a fire. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

11-13-2006, 02:04 PM	#8
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? On Redskin lunch, larry is saying it will be JC. Bram is predicting Todd. By the way, the job was Ramsey's to lose...............he did, and in NY as well. If he is that fragile psychologically, he can't be in the NFL. __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

11-13-2006, 02:05 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I don't even care at this point. I'll take anyone over Brunell. Like I said in another thread, if you can at least manage the game, you already are Brunell's equal. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

11-13-2006, 02:01 PM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I'm not sold on the whole damaged goods thing. He looked pretty solid in that bears game before he got yanked. Anyhow, at this point Ill try anyone but Mark Brunell. I find it a bit silly not to have the future taking snaps. Some QBs just need to get their feet in the fire to understand the game. We need to evaluate Campbell, we're out of the playoffs, and Mark Brunell probably wont be back due to salary cap restrictions (and the constant vandalism of his house...) __________________ Best. Player. Available.

11-13-2006, 02:06 PM	#10
ArtMonkDrillz Franchise Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Ellicott City, MD Age: 42 Posts: 8,029	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I would be thoroughly disappointed in our coaching staff for not making a first round draft pick ready to start after a year and a half. He's been around the team long enough that he should be ready now or he'll never be. I mea, who's to say sitting for 2 whole years on a floundering team won't destroy his confidence more than taking his lumps. I would also lose faith in the coaching staff because I would feel like they are too blind to see that neither Brunell nor Collins can be QB of the future for the Redskins. We seriously need to know ASAP if Campbell can be the QB that we all hope he is, because we can't waste another year trying to teach some free agent Saunder's damn system. So to sum up, I'd be really pissed if it were collins. __________________ "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." The Dude

11-13-2006, 02:09 PM	#11
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I agree, you need to find out what kind of player he is and if he can handle the heat and show improvement over the next 7 weeks. If he can't, you have to make a move or try something else in the offseason to fix the QB position. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

11-13-2006, 02:10 PM	#12
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? Complaining about Collins being the starter will commence at the start of the 2nd Quarter. __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

11-13-2006, 02:11 PM	#13
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I wouldn't be surprised if there is a QB change that it would be Todd Collins. I'd rather see Jason Campbell in there, but there is apparently a reason why Todd is #2 and Campbell is #3. Until we lose 8 games, Brunell is the starting QB unless he is otherwise hurt. __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

11-13-2006, 02:11 PM	#14
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: How will you feel if its Collins instead of Campbell? I'm telling you right now, I will freak out of Todd Collins starts at QB for this team. Like I'll need to go to the looney bin to calm down in one of those rubber rooms. There are two quarterbacks that should be avalible this offseason (Leftwitch and Trent Green) that I would love to see brought in if Campbell can't cut it. So Lets find out NOW how he can do. We have lost the season, it makes no freaking sense not to play him. __________________ #21

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