Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings

Schneed10 · 11-13-2006, 05:31 PM

Here are some players who, in my judgment, are vulnerable to being handed their walking papers. Some are only slight possibilities to get cut (like Thrash because Gibbs loves him on special teams), others are locks (like John Hall). But these are the possibles.

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

We'd also save a bit by cutting Jansen, Randy Thomas, or Rabach. But I'm assuming that ain't happening.

These are the guys we're stuck with 'till death do us part (or till salary cap hell do us in). We can't renegotiate to give us much relief in '07, and we can't cut them or we'll absorb this:

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut

Not that we'd want to cut all those guys (except ahem, Archuleta).

70Chip · 11-13-2006, 05:35 PM

Keepers:
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

Gmanc711 · 11-13-2006, 05:36 PM

I dont see these guys getting cut....
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (I think he'll restructure)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m ( " "_
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Those last 5 I think are real good, cheap talent.

dall-assblows · 11-13-2006, 05:37 PM

cut them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jk

Big C · 11-13-2006, 05:39 PM

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m
John Hall - $1.5 m
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m
James Thrash - $1.3 m
Todd Collins - $1.25 m
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m
Joe Salave'a - $710K
Pierson Prioleau - $710K
Lemar Marshall - $600K
Demetric Evans - $600K
Khary Campbell - $500K
Rock Cartwright - $450K
Nick Novak - $435K

Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut
Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut
Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut
Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut
Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut
David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut

id cut those in bold, and id consider cutting archie, depending on how much we would save

Beemnseven · 11-13-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big C

Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m

Renaldo Wynn -- played in all 16 games in 2005, had 24 tackles and half a sack with one pass defended. Let's be honest, would he make the roster for any other team in the NFL that isn't as hung up on "locker room leaders" ??

What's his "leadership" done for us this year?

hurrykaine · 11-14-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Renaldo Wynn -- played in all 16 games in 2005, had 24 tackles and half a sack with one pass defended. Let's be honest, would he make the roster for any other team in the NFL that isn't as hung up on "locker room leaders" ??

What's his "leadership" done for us this year?

Amen! I've been a big proponent of letting Wynn go over the last 3 years. No one's presence on our roster over the last 3 years has angered me more than this so called "locker room leader" - not even Brunell. I have little doubt that he will restructure and continue to be a great locker room presence in 2007.

Beemnseven · 11-13-2006, 05:40 PM

They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million)

Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-13-2006, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million)

Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?

Maybe he'll be so miserable that he'll buy his way out of the contract to go to Chicago.

hooskins · 11-14-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Maybe he'll be so miserable that he'll buy his way out of the contract to go to Chicago.

You think anyone is gonna want him after the way he has looked this year?

hooskins · 11-14-2006, 02:11 AM

Do you guys realize we are gonna be in huge trouble in a couple years when ARE's and AA's contracts start becoming really expensive. I really hope ARE will restructure then, he seems really committed to the team.

BrunellMVP? · 11-14-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hooskins

Do you guys realize we are gonna be in huge trouble in a couple years when ARE's and AA's contracts start becoming really expensive. I really hope ARE will restructure then, he seems really committed to the team.

THis may seem incredibly naive...but we've been hearing about how the salary cap is going to catch up to us for years- how our spending (however stupid) is going to kill us- etc. but last time I checked, every year we go out and spend money to aquire whatever toys we prize (with almost no regard for cost). it seems to me, as players can always restructure, and salaries can be spread over years, that no matter how much we spend, we will always make it work. The only time, that i see this system failing (in a financial sense-bc it has already failed in on-field performance) is if Synder sells, and the new owner doesn't subscribe to his push payments into perpetuity formula. is my logic fatally flawed here??

Schneed10 · 11-13-2006, 05:42 PM

What I'm saying is we have Archuleta on the books next year for $2.5 million. If we cut him, we'll have to eat $9 million, meaning we'd take an incremental $6.5 million hit to axe his ass.

Like I said, till death do us part.

61cad · 11-13-2006, 05:43 PM

Mark Brunell - $2.33 m (Bench)
Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (Keeper)
Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m (Keeper)
John Hall - $1.5 m (Goodbye)
Troy Vincent - $1.37 m (Goodbye)
James Thrash - $1.3 m (Goodbye)
Todd Collins - $1.25 m (Goodbye)
Christian Fauria - $1.0 m (Goodbye)
Mike Rumph - $1.0 m (Keeper)
Joe Salave'a - $710K (Keeper)
Pierson Prioleau - $710K (Keeper)
Lemar Marshall - $600K (Keeper)
Demetric Evans - $600K (Keeper)
Khary Campbell - $500K (Goodbye)
Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks
Nick Novak - $435K (Cracker..........please)

hooskins · 11-14-2006, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 61cad

Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks

You couldnt be more wrong about Rock. He is a beast at kickoffs, and you DONT want ARE returning kicks, bc that is more tiring, and beating on a reciever. Especially to do both kick and punt returns. Plus he is super cheap(did I forget to mention "super-smart"?), and even if he wants more loot, we could afford to give him a bit more, if anything he deserves it.

This would be a stupid cut just to save 450K.

Also, Betts may not be here next season, even if we give him the money, bc I he is turning heads in the NFL for a potential starting job. Rock would be good to keep to fill that spot.

11-13-2006, 05:31 PM	#1
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Here are some players who, in my judgment, are vulnerable to being handed their walking papers. Some are only slight possibilities to get cut (like Thrash because Gibbs loves him on special teams), others are locks (like John Hall). But these are the possibles. Mark Brunell - $2.33 m Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m John Hall - $1.5 m Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Todd Collins - $1.25 m Christian Fauria - $1.0 m Mike Rumph - $1.0 m Joe Salave'a - $710K Pierson Prioleau - $710K Lemar Marshall - $600K Demetric Evans - $600K Khary Campbell - $500K Rock Cartwright - $450K Nick Novak - $435K We'd also save a bit by cutting Jansen, Randy Thomas, or Rabach. But I'm assuming that ain't happening. These are the guys we're stuck with 'till death do us part (or till salary cap hell do us in). We can't renegotiate to give us much relief in '07, and we can't cut them or we'll absorb this: Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut Not that we'd want to cut all those guys (except ahem, Archuleta). __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-13-2006, 05:35 PM	#2
70Chip Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Manassas Age: 53 Posts: 3,048	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Keepers: Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Joe Salave'a - $710K Pierson Prioleau - $710K Lemar Marshall - $600K Demetric Evans - $600K Khary Campbell - $500K Rock Cartwright - $450K Nick Novak - $435K __________________ This Monkey's Gone to Heaven

11-13-2006, 05:36 PM	#3
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings I dont see these guys getting cut.... Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (I think he'll restructure) Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m ( " "_ Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Todd Collins - $1.25 m Pierson Prioleau - $710K Lemar Marshall - $600K Demetric Evans - $600K Rock Cartwright - $450K Those last 5 I think are real good, cheap talent. __________________ #21

11-13-2006, 05:37 PM	#4
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 41 Posts: 2,211	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings cut them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jk __________________ SOMEBODY PINCH ME

11-13-2006, 05:39 PM	#5
Big C Mr. Brightside Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Leesburg, VA Age: 38 Posts: 4,453	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Mark Brunell - $2.33 m Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m John Hall - $1.5 m Troy Vincent - $1.37 m James Thrash - $1.3 m Todd Collins - $1.25 m Christian Fauria - $1.0 m Mike Rumph - $1.0 m Joe Salave'a - $710K Pierson Prioleau - $710K Lemar Marshall - $600K Demetric Evans - $600K Khary Campbell - $500K Rock Cartwright - $450K Nick Novak - $435K Antwaan Randle El: $7.5 m hit to cut Andre Carter: $6.8 m hit to cut Adam Archuleta: $6.5 m hit to cut Brandon Lloyd: $6.5 m hit to cut Carlos Rogers: $5.3 m hit to cut David Patten: $2.2 m hit to cut id cut those in bold, and id consider cutting archie, depending on how much we would save __________________ "I don't care what nobody say I'm a be me, stay hood stay real, cause I'm out here grindin'" -Joe Gibbs

11-13-2006, 05:40 PM	#8
Beemnseven Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Virginia Beach Age: 50 Posts: 5,311	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings They would more than make up the $6.5 mil they'd lose by cutting Archuleta with dumping Brunell, Daniels and Wynn. ($6.73 million) Can anyone honestly say there would be any noticeable difference with the latter two off the team?

11-14-2006, 02:11 AM	#11
hooskins Most Interesting Man in the World Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Chantilly, VA Age: 37 Posts: 8,606	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Do you guys realize we are gonna be in huge trouble in a couple years when ARE's and AA's contracts start becoming really expensive. I really hope ARE will restructure then, he seems really committed to the team. __________________ Vacancy

11-13-2006, 05:42 PM	#13
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,421	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings What I'm saying is we have Archuleta on the books next year for $2.5 million. If we cut him, we'll have to eat $9 million, meaning we'd take an incremental $6.5 million hit to axe his ass. Like I said, till death do us part. __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

11-13-2006, 05:43 PM	#14
61cad Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Reston, VA Posts: 296	Re: Potential Offseason Cuts and Cap Savings Mark Brunell - $2.33 m (Bench) Renaldo Wynn - $2.5 m (Keeper) Phillip Daniels - $1.9 m (Keeper) John Hall - $1.5 m (Goodbye) Troy Vincent - $1.37 m (Goodbye) James Thrash - $1.3 m (Goodbye) Todd Collins - $1.25 m (Goodbye) Christian Fauria - $1.0 m (Goodbye) Mike Rumph - $1.0 m (Keeper) Joe Salave'a - $710K (Keeper) Pierson Prioleau - $710K (Keeper) Lemar Marshall - $600K (Keeper) Demetric Evans - $600K (Keeper) Khary Campbell - $500K (Goodbye) Rock Cartwright - $450K (Goodbye)ARE return kicks Nick Novak - $435K (Cracker..........please) __________________ DAMN YOU SAM HUFF, F****ING NEW YORK GIANT!

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