Disconnect Between Players and Coaches

NYCSkin · 11-20-2006, 01:32 AM

Lately I've been feeling like there is a growing rift between the Skins' players and coaches. I've always thought that Gibbs' was the right guy to turn this franchise around--but are these players starting to tune out this coaching staff? Are the coaches losing their vigor in coaxing max effort out of the players? If one of these are true, we are in trouble. I fear that it is much worse--that both are true.

What we have now is overpaid and underachieving players as well as overpaid and underachieving coaches. We are saddled with many of these players due to their bloated contracts and we are saddled with many of these coaches due to bloated loyalties. So if you're Dan Snyder, what do you do?

EternalEnigma21 · 11-20-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

So if you're Dan Snyder, what do you do?

go get loaded on some 100 buck a glass hooch and get a blowjob from a cheerleader.

yup.. that'd cheer me up.

then I'd play my new playstation 3 until i fell asleep on a big pile of money and boobs.

70Chip · 11-20-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by canthetuna

go get loaded on some 100 buck a glass hooch and get a blowjob from a cheerleader.

yup.. that'd cheer me up.

then I'd play my new playstation 3 until i fell asleep on a big pile of money and boobs.

Priceless. Money and boobs. It's the new Wall Street Show on Fox News.

SmootSmack · 11-20-2006, 01:39 AM

I don't sense that. I sense that, if anything, there's a loser's mentality this season. Last year they almost willed themselves to some of those victories. This year you don't get that same feeling of "we can do this" Maybe it trickles down from Portis not having the same joy he had last year. And Moss too. I really don't know. But I think coaches and players as a whole are in it together.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-20-2006, 01:40 AM

Everything that could go wrong for this team has, it's not as simple as saying there is a disconnect between the coaches and the players. We've been marred by injuries to key players (e.g. Portis, Moss, Springs, Rogers, Marshall, Griffin, Salave'a). We've had balls bounce in ways that even a German porn-director couldn't envision (e.g. Galloway to Becht and last week Brown to Buckhalter). We have a new offensive coordinator who brought a playbook that Todd Collins said would take players one year to get comfortable with. We've had individual breakdowns that kill us (e.g. Arch getting beat repeatedly over the top or Taylor biting on double-moves). On top of that, we've had basic team breakdowns in tackling and penalties. I don't think any one issue is killing us, we're getting hit with bad luck on top of bad play.

I honestly believe that if people do not hit the panic button in typical Snyder fashion, things will come together next season. We've just been hit with a perfect storm that we need to ride out for the next 9 months.

SmootSmack · 11-20-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Everything that could go wrong for this team has, it's not as simple as saying there is a disconnect between the coaches and the players. We've been marred by injuries to key players (e.g. Portis, Moss, Springs, Rogers, Marshall, Griffin, Salave'a). We've had balls bounce in ways that even a German porn-director couldn't envision (e.g. Galloway to Becht and last week Brown to Buckhalter). We have a new offensive coordinator who brought a playbook that Todd Collins said would take players one year to get comfortable with. We've had individual breakdowns that kill us (e.g. Arch getting beat repeatedly over the top or Taylor biting on double-moves). On top of that, we've had basic team breakdowns in tackling and penalties. I don't think any one issue is killing us, we're getting hit with bad luck on top of bad play.

I honestly believe that if people do not hit the panic button in typical Snyder fashion, things will come together next season. We've just been hit with a perfect storm that we need to ride out for the next 9 months.

Thanks for the new sig!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-20-2006, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Thanks for the new sig!

You are most welcome.

GTripp0012 · 11-20-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I honestly believe that if people do not hit the panic button in typical Snyder fashion, things will come together next season. We've just been hit with a perfect storm that we need to ride out for the next 9 months.

I wholeheartedly agree. If we want a quick fix, the quickest fix is no fix at all.

NYCSkin · 11-20-2006, 02:02 AM

Too many times this season I have heard "I just run the plays that the coaches call...". That implies to me that there is a disconnect, that the players feel as though they should be doing something else. And how many times have you heard that this team says it "lacks an identity"? Ten weeks into the season and the Skins' don't know what kind of team they want to be.

redrock-skins · 11-20-2006, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

So if you're Dan Snyder, what do you do?

Sell the team and let someone else run it.

As a Yankees/Skins fan the parallels are so similar. You can't buy a championship and you can't buy chemistry. At least the Yankees actually make the playoffs though and still feel they have a shot each year.

Just wondering what guy the Skins are going to overpay for (who's career has peaked just before signing with the Skins) in the off season?

Luxorreb · 11-20-2006, 02:52 AM

Not believing there's actually a disconnect between coaches and players. Just think the coaches got some guys out there who can't or won't get the job done.

That Guy · 11-20-2006, 11:09 AM

cut the staff, stop with the bad signings and overpaying players (el's contract was a full 40% more than chicago offered... and i bet arch's deal was cose to 60+% more... i don't think it had to be that much higher, especially since his impact on our W-L column has been so very very small).

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-20-2006, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

cut the staff, stop with the bad signings and overpaying players (el's contract was a full 40% more than chicago offered... and i bet arch's deal was cose to 60+% more... i don't think it had to be that much higher, especially since his impact on our W-L column has been so very very small).

Cut the staff? You haven't joined the F Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders camp have you?

That Guy · 11-20-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Cut the staff? You haven't joined the F Gibbs, Williams, and Saunders camp have you?

no, oops, hope it didn't come off that way. I meant cut back, like breaux etc. I think we've got too many people and i'm not sure if saunders is necessary, but he'll have 7 more games to show himself. (i still contend he's calling all these outside runs because they worked with 3 of the best pulling OL in KC, but we don't have a roaf, shields, and waters here - so he needs to adjust to what we've got, which is downhill running, more shotgun to protect the QB from dock and rabach in long passing situations, etc). All i know is gibbs offense worked much better than this one (which constantly abandons the runs and seems to suffer from bad playcalling often).

And for as great a quote as bugel may be, he hasn't made a single OL guy play better in 3 years, so i'm not sure he's really needed either.

maybe losing walker hurt our D too...

The Zimmermans · 11-20-2006, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

no, oops, hope it didn't come off that way. I meant cut back, like breaux etc. I think we've got too many people and i'm not sure if saunders is necessary, but he'll have 7 more games to show himself. (i still contend he's calling all these outside runs because they worked with 3 of the best pulling OL in KC, but we don't have a roaf, shields, and waters here - so he needs to adjust to what we've got, which is downhill running, more shotgun to protect the QB from dock and rabach in long passing situations, etc). All i know is gibbs offense worked much better than this one (which constantly abandons the runs and seems to suffer from bad playcalling often).

And for as great a quote as bugel may be, he hasn't made a single OL guy play better in 3 years, so i'm not sure he's really needed either.

maybe losing walker hurt our D too...

Do you truly feel that our offense is worse than it was last year?????

11-20-2006, 01:32 AM	#1
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 53 Posts: 513	Disconnect Between Players and Coaches Lately I've been feeling like there is a growing rift between the Skins' players and coaches. I've always thought that Gibbs' was the right guy to turn this franchise around--but are these players starting to tune out this coaching staff? Are the coaches losing their vigor in coaxing max effort out of the players? If one of these are true, we are in trouble. I fear that it is much worse--that both are true. What we have now is overpaid and underachieving players as well as overpaid and underachieving coaches. We are saddled with many of these players due to their bloated contracts and we are saddled with many of these coaches due to bloated loyalties. So if you're Dan Snyder, what do you do?

11-20-2006, 01:39 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Disconnect Between Players and Coaches I don't sense that. I sense that, if anything, there's a loser's mentality this season. Last year they almost willed themselves to some of those victories. This year you don't get that same feeling of "we can do this" Maybe it trickles down from Portis not having the same joy he had last year. And Moss too. I really don't know. But I think coaches and players as a whole are in it together. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-20-2006, 01:40 AM	#5
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 45 Posts: 8,317	Re: Disconnect Between Players and Coaches Everything that could go wrong for this team has, it's not as simple as saying there is a disconnect between the coaches and the players. We've been marred by injuries to key players (e.g. Portis, Moss, Springs, Rogers, Marshall, Griffin, Salave'a). We've had balls bounce in ways that even a German porn-director couldn't envision (e.g. Galloway to Becht and last week Brown to Buckhalter). We have a new offensive coordinator who brought a playbook that Todd Collins said would take players one year to get comfortable with. We've had individual breakdowns that kill us (e.g. Arch getting beat repeatedly over the top or Taylor biting on double-moves). On top of that, we've had basic team breakdowns in tackling and penalties. I don't think any one issue is killing us, we're getting hit with bad luck on top of bad play. I honestly believe that if people do not hit the panic button in typical Snyder fashion, things will come together next season. We've just been hit with a perfect storm that we need to ride out for the next 9 months.

11-20-2006, 02:02 AM	#9
NYCSkin Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Age: 53 Posts: 513	Re: Disconnect Between Players and Coaches Too many times this season I have heard "I just run the plays that the coaches call...". That implies to me that there is a disconnect, that the players feel as though they should be doing something else. And how many times have you heard that this team says it "lacks an identity"? Ten weeks into the season and the Skins' don't know what kind of team they want to be.

11-20-2006, 02:52 AM	#11
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: Disconnect Between Players and Coaches Not believing there's actually a disconnect between coaches and players. Just think the coaches got some guys out there who can't or won't get the job done. __________________ ^21^

11-20-2006, 11:09 AM	#12
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: Disconnect Between Players and Coaches cut the staff, stop with the bad signings and overpaying players (el's contract was a full 40% more than chicago offered... and i bet arch's deal was cose to 60+% more... i don't think it had to be that much higher, especially since his impact on our W-L column has been so very very small).

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