Lack Of Receiver Production

[gabe1984]

The lack of production from our receivers this year has been a huge disapointment. However, how much of their lack of production is really their fault? Is it because our offense could not get the running game going for much of the season so teams could drop back in coverage? Were they open, but Brunell could just not get them the ball? Or, is it just because they're not as good as we thought they would be and ran bad routes? What does everyone think about this? How much of the blame can actually be placed on the WRs for not producing? Sometimes I feel like it didn't matter who we were throwing the ball to, it still just wasn't going to happen.

[MTK]

It's called lack of overall, consistent offensive production. I don't think there's one area to blame.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

I totally disagree with you. I think Lloyd really wants to win and is a team guy. I'm glad he's a Redskin.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

wow

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

You know I haven't liked people in the past but DAMN !

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

I'm not willing to go that far (yet!), but whenever I pay attention to Loyd's routes, they look lazy. Maybe that's frustration from not getting the ball your way, but w/JC at the helm he's gotten his no. called & has not stepped up much.
His attitude is something to be weary of at this point too, but let's hope that Gibbs straightens him out & gets some production out of him. I was always a little dumbfounded as to why Gibbs & co. went after him. Javon Walker was the best wr available, maybe they tried to get him but couldn't. Gibbs sees something in him, so I'll withold judgement till next year.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

Whoooaaa.... I don't think he has been that bad. Our offense (and playcalling) has been way out of sync this year....so Loyd hasn't really had an opportunities (until now) to get himself into the game. I think he can still be a star for us. Certainly time will tell, but he's obviously doing more for us than David Patten or, gulp, Taylor Jacobs did.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Whoooaaa.... I don't think he has been that bad. Our offense (and playcalling) has been way out of sync this year....so Loyd hasn't really had an opportunities (until now) to get himself into the game. I think he can still be a star for us. Certainly time will tell, but he's obviously doing more for us than David Patten or, gulp, Taylor Jacobs did.

I wrote my 1st post in this thread (the one you quoted) just after reading the WP article about Lloyd. Needless to say, I was 100% pissed after reading that Lloyd has been causing problems in the locker room.

Please see my second post in this thread (the last one on the first page of the thread). I am still very pissed at Lloyd right now, but I articulated my thoughts/feelings a little better in my second post.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I hate to admit it, but Rexi was absolutely 100% right about Lloyd. That skinny, whiny, fugly wideout should be shipped to Iraq with an American flag stapled to his forehead.

Easy slugger....

You could have just said he's bad. No need to invoke the war my man.

As far as his production goes, I think Lloyd isn't deserving of any scape-goat mentality as of yet. Our offense all shares the blame. Why not scream at ARE. Why not hate on Chris Cooley for his game on sunday? Lloyd isn't worth the money, but he's probably accurately labled the #2 receiver on the team.

Quick question to the board. Do you think James Thrash has been working extra with Campbell during the season? Has he been doing after practice work-outs, 2nd team stuff, etc...



Seems like they're on the same page.

Edit: There is no excuse for his behavior, however. He should stop the bitching, and control his emotions. That's out of character for this team, and I'm sure Gibbs will get that point across. If not, then he's gone.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

Easy slugger....

You could have just said he's bad. No need to invoke the war my man.

I wasn't making a political statement (either pro or anti-war), it was pure, 100% hyperbole. Sorry if you or others took it otherwise, didn't mean any offense. I've tried to clear this issue up, but I guess I can't.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

I wasn't making a political statement, it was pure, 100% hyperbole. Sorry if you took it otherwise, didn't mean any offense. I've tried to clear this issue up, but I guess I can't.

It's all good, just kinda shocked me. I guess that's sort of the point of a hyperbole though.

I'm kinda slow on those things.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

It's all good, just kinda shocked me. I guess that's sort of the point of a hyperbole though.

I'm kinda slow on those things.

Given the seriousness of the Iraq situation, I should have avoided it. Again, I apologize to anyone who was offended and certainly understand how it was inappropriate to reference Iraq. I was not trying to make any political statement. I simply made a dumb, off-the-cuff remark.

The bottom line, for me, is that he is no Portis, Moss, Cooley or some stud player who has any right to whine about the rest of the team. Can he be pissed about things he can control (i.e. his hands and routes)? Yes. Can he get upset and angry when we lose? Yes. But he has no right to cause locker room problems, especially when you consider what we're paying him.

Sorry, I'll stop whining about Lloyd now.

[mike340]

Thrash has been undervalued as a receiver. I remember (over the course of the years) that he's gotten the ball many times when the QB is under pressure, probably because he seems to adjust very well to how a play develops. While he makes (almost) no highlight-reel catches, he makes catches that continue drives and makes almost no mental mistakes. (e.g. he doesn't position himself just short of the 1st down marker.) I think his loss at the end of last year hurt us more than most people realize.

(I am trying to explain why JC might naturally have a rapport with Thrash; I confess, however, that I cannot answer the question. Just showing I like the player.)

Originally Posted by RobH4413

...Quick question to the board. Do you think James Thrash has been working extra with Campbell during the season? Has he been doing after practice work-outs, 2nd team stuff, etc...

Seems like they're on the same page...

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by mike340

Thrash has been undervalued as a receiver. I remember (over the course of the years) that he's gotten the ball many times when the QB is under pressure, probably because he seems to adjust very well to how a play develops. While he makes (almost) no highlight-reel catches, he makes catches that continue drives and makes almost no mental mistakes. (e.g. he doesn't position himself just short of the 1st down marker.) I think his loss at the end of last year hurt us more than most people realize.

(I am trying to explain why JC might naturally have a rapport with Thrash; I confess, however, that I cannot answer the question. Just showing I like the player.)

I like Thrash too, & so does Gibbs, that's why it surprised me that we got 2 new recievers in the offseason. Thrash is a possession guy, rarely drops anything & plays special teams. If the cap & $ were not an issue, I would agree if the coaches cut Loyd & kept Thrash, he's earned his spot.