Sugar bowl fiasco...not right!

[jsarno]

It is not right that a team gets to have another home game. LSU should not be playing Notre Dame at New Orleans, that's not right. Every game should be played at a neutral site.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by jsarno

It is not right that a team gets to have another home game. LSU should not be playing Notre Dame at New Orleans, that's not right. Every game should be played at a neutral site.

bowl games are traditionally held at certain locations... teams are picked post-facto. would you move the rose bowl out of pasadena, even though USC goes there often?

notre dame is going to need more than their fans to pull this out... they look too slow for lsu.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

bowl games are traditionally held at certain locations... teams are picked post-facto. would you move the rose bowl out of pasadena, even though USC goes there often?

notre dame is going to need more than their fans to pull this out... they look too slow for lsu.

I'm not saying move the Rose bowl out of pasedena, or the sugar bowl out of New Orleans, just that USC is not eligible for the Rose Bowl, or the LSU Tigers are not eligible for the Sugar Bowl. It's not fair to the opposing team.

They just scored a TD.

That QB (Russell) for LSU looks good...fast and BIG, with a good arm.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I'm not saying move the Rose bowl out of pasedena, or the sugar bowl out of New Orleans, just that USC is not eligible for the Rose Bowl, or the LSU Tigers are not eligible for the Sugar Bowl. It's not fair to the opposing team.

I like the fact that the Rose Bowl is the one game that kind of sticks against the BCS... it's always been a Pac 10/Big 10 matchup, except when the national champ contender is from either conference. Tradition trumps innovation in Pasadena.

Hey, ND looks like it's making a game of it... turnover by LSU.

[jsarno]

Sorry mods...I put this on the wrong section (locker room)...please feel free to move it.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by jsarno

It is not right that a team gets to have another home game. LSU should not be playing Notre Dame at New Orleans, that's not right. Every game should be played at a neutral site.

I agree with you on this one. Put em in some other Bowl. It's really unfair. While LSU plays maybe an hour and a half away (probably less) most college football fans in NOLA are LSU fans. Having lived there, I can tell you, no one gives a damn about Tulane unless you go there and half of us were LSU fans. I never really was, always liked Auburn and the Gators, haven't been much for LSU till I got with the current girlfriend. Anyway, I'm not huge on college football, not nearly as much as pros, but it is fun to watch sometimes. However, I do agree, it is unfair that a 2 loss team gets to play in a BCS home game.

I do have to add, though, that it's pretty much impossible to move Death Valley to New Orleans. You really can't capture that kinda feel anywhere, but in Baton Rouge.

[itvnetop]

i'd also have to mention the fact that ND gets to keep all of its revenue for being in this game... while every other school has to split the amount with its conference. cry me a river, ND.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

i'd also have to mention the fact that ND gets to keep all of its revenue for being in this game... while every other school has to split the amount with its conference. cry me a river, ND.

Notre Dame shouldn't have to apologize for being independent. Army, Navy, and Temple all are too. The Air Force is apparently in the Mountain West Conference. However, I'm pretty sure Navy went to a bowl game too, I don't have a problem with them getting to keep the revenue.

As for LSU, they're sharing with the SEC who had 9 of their 12 teams heading to bowl games. Somehow, I don't think that sharing that revenue is gonna kill LSU.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Notre Dame shouldn't have to apologize for being independent.

And LSU shouldn't have to apologize for being selected to the sugar bowl.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

And LSU shouldn't have to apologize for being selected to the sugar bowl.

No one said LSU had to apologize.
The selection committee should. They should not allow it.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Notre Dame shouldn't have to apologize for being independent. Army, Navy, and Temple all are too. The Air Force is apparently in the Mountain West Conference. However, I'm pretty sure Navy went to a bowl game too, I don't have a problem with them getting to keep the revenue.

The thing is service academies rarely get to a bowl game (hence, they can afford to be independent) and when they do, it's an extremely low payout.

I'm not saying ND is wrong for taking advantage of their status... just don't cry about homefield advantage when you're getting a BCS payout of 8 million dollars, while everyone else has to share it with 9 or 11 other teams.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

The thing is service academies rarely get to a bowl game (hence, they can afford to be independent) and when they do, it's an extremely low payout.

I'm not saying ND is wrong for taking advantage of their status... just don't cry about homefield advantage when you're getting a BCS payout of 8 million dollars, while everyone else has to share it with 9 or 11 other teams.

ND isn't crying.
Also, all those teams have advantages to being in conferences, ND has none for being independant, other than not sharing bowl money.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by jsarno

ND isn't crying.
Also, all those teams have advantages to being in conferences, ND has none for being independant, other than not sharing bowl money.

you're right that ND has no scheduling advantages for being an independent- they annually have pretty tough schedules.

but b/c they are ND, they have inherent advantages. they are the only school with an exclusive television contract with a major network. they have support b/c of their fan base. they can afford to be independent b/c of this.

and b/c ND is this powerful, they are considered for BCS bowls with sketchy portfolios. here are ND's wins this season:

Georgia Tech
Penn St.
Purdue
Stanford
UCLA
Navy
North Carolina
Air Force
Army

I'm sorry, I'm not really impressed by any of those wins. UCLA, possibly. In fact, their schedule this season is weaker than in year's past, playing three service academies (all respect due to the armed forces).

10-2 is a solid record, but how does a 2 loss ND get a BCS invitation over a 1 loss Wisconsin (the capital one bowl???)?

If any other major conference school had the same schedule and results as ND this season (with maybe one quality win), they would not be in the sugar bowl. ND gets plenty of advantages because of who they are.

[jsarno]

I was shocked to see how many independants there are.

Notre Dame
Army
Navy
Troy State
UConn
Temple

[EEich]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I was shocked to see how many independants there are.

Notre Dame
Army
Navy
Troy State
UConn
Temple

UCONN is Big East.