With Doc gone now, do we get a compensatory pick?

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2007, 11:29 AM

So here is a question I pose to the guys with the most buissness knowledge of the NFL. Do we get a compensatory pick for losing Doc, if so do we get it this year or next, and what round would it be? Thanks for the info.

SouperMeister · 03-05-2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

So here is a question I pose to the guys with the most buissness knowledge of the NFL. Do we get a compensatory pick for losing Doc, if so do we get it this year or next, and what round would it be? Thanks for the info.

No. Doc was an unrestricted free agent.

EXoffender · 03-05-2007, 11:34 AM

He wasn't a RFA, but I think I know what you mean.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2007, 11:42 AM

Ok thanks guys. I wasn't sure.

I know the difference between the two but, I thought for some reason that the NFL gave out more picks for players leaving in free agency. Here's my example. A couple of years ago the Broncos drafted Maurice Clarett at the end of day one , with a end of the 3rd round pick they recieved from the NFL because they lost a player in free agency.

Now I know about RFA and unrestricted, but doesn't RFA mean the team that signs player x has to give thier draft picks. Not extra picks given to them by the NFL.

Am I wrong here or am I on the right track.

Bushead · 03-05-2007, 11:48 AM

Your on the right track...but i don't think it happens until NEXT season. They look at a whole assortment of things, like how much it affected you and blah blah blah...i'm pretty sure we got one after smoot and pierce left that one year.

RedskinPete · 03-05-2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bushead

Your on the right track...but i don't think it happens until NEXT season. They look at a whole assortment of things, like how much it affected you and blah blah blah...i'm pretty sure we got one after smoot and pierce left that one year.

Not Pierce because we didn't draft him in 01. He was a free agent pick up out of college by the Redskins. Not subject to compensation!

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2007, 11:53 AM

Thanks Bushead I know I wasn't going crazy here. Maybe we only got one after those two players left because Pierce was an URFA after the draft and not a second round pick like Smoot was.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2007, 11:53 AM

beat me too it Pete

That Guy · 03-05-2007, 12:28 PM

we lost one starter, but signed two more, the contract values are pretty equal, so at best we might get a pick around 250 (or 255). i'd guess we'd get nothing though.

JoeRedskin · 03-05-2007, 01:17 PM

I may be wrong, but I think the two we signed are not considered since the team we signed them from did not draft them. I thought the compensatory draft picks only considered players signed from their original teams for whom the team had used a draft pick to obtain.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 03-05-2007, 01:44 PM

Will it be next year then or this year? Anyone know for sure on that?

wilsowilso · 03-05-2007, 01:50 PM

Next year for sure.

BrudLee · 03-05-2007, 02:07 PM

Lots of things enter into the compensatory draft formula: original draft position, value of the contract, games played under the new contract, and the ability to spell "ridiculous" after a few cocktails. While Dockery's value as a second round player who is making an ass-load of cash should help, his compensatory value will depend upon his ability to stay healthy for the Bills. Also, if one more person spells it "rediculous", we may actually forfeit a pick.

SouperMeister · 03-05-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BrudLee

Lots of things enter into the compensatory draft formula: original draft position, value of the contract, games played under the new contract, and the ability to spell "ridiculous" after a few cocktails. While Dockery's value as a second round player who is making an ass-load of cash should help, his compensatory value will depend upon his ability to stay healthy for the Bills. Also, if one more person spells it "rediculous", we may actually forfeit a pick.

I repeat, Doc is an unrestricted free agent, so we won't receive any compensatory picks from Buffalo. After four years in the league, a player whose contract has expired becomes unrestricted for upcoming free agency. Restricted Free Agency only applies to guys whose contracts have expired within their first 3 years in the league. Laveranues Coles and Matt Bowen are both excellent examples of players the Skins have picked up as RFA's, and had to compensate their prior teams with draft choices.

FRPLG · 03-05-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I repeat, Doc is an unrestricted free agent, so we won't receive any compensatory picks from Buffalo. After four years in the league, a player whose contract has expired becomes unrestricted for upcoming free agency. Restricted Free Agency only applies to guys whose contracts have expired within their first 3 years in the league. Laveranues Coles and Matt Bowen are both excellent examples of players the Skins have picked up as RFA's, and had to compensate their prior teams with draft choices.

Dude you're totally not even on the same page. They are not talking about teams signing free agents and awarding compensatory picks to their former teams. They are talking about compensatory picks awarded by the league under a formula. This discussion has nothing to do with RFAs since they do not have anything to do with the compensatory draft pick formula which the league administers.

03-05-2007, 11:29 AM	#1
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	With Doc gone now, do we get a compensatory pick? So here is a question I pose to the guys with the most buissness knowledge of the NFL. Do we get a compensatory pick for losing Doc, if so do we get it this year or next, and what round would it be? Thanks for the info. __________________ Just win.

03-05-2007, 11:34 AM	#3
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? He wasn't a RFA, but I think I know what you mean.

03-05-2007, 11:42 AM	#4
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Ok thanks guys. I wasn't sure. I know the difference between the two but, I thought for some reason that the NFL gave out more picks for players leaving in free agency. Here's my example. A couple of years ago the Broncos drafted Maurice Clarett at the end of day one , with a end of the 3rd round pick they recieved from the NFL because they lost a player in free agency. Now I know about RFA and unrestricted, but doesn't RFA mean the team that signs player x has to give thier draft picks. Not extra picks given to them by the NFL. Am I wrong here or am I on the right track. __________________ Just win.

03-05-2007, 11:48 AM	#5
Bushead Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 782	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Your on the right track...but i don't think it happens until NEXT season. They look at a whole assortment of things, like how much it affected you and blah blah blah...i'm pretty sure we got one after smoot and pierce left that one year.

03-05-2007, 11:53 AM	#7
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Thanks Bushead I know I wasn't going crazy here. Maybe we only got one after those two players left because Pierce was an URFA after the draft and not a second round pick like Smoot was. __________________ Just win.

03-05-2007, 12:28 PM	#9
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,553	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? we lost one starter, but signed two more, the contract values are pretty equal, so at best we might get a pick around 250 (or 255). i'd guess we'd get nothing though.

03-05-2007, 01:17 PM	#10
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? I may be wrong, but I think the two we signed are not considered since the team we signed them from did not draft them. I thought the compensatory draft picks only considered players signed from their original teams for whom the team had used a draft pick to obtain. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

03-05-2007, 01:44 PM	#11
artmonkforhallofamein07 Pro Bowl Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 5,001	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Will it be next year then or this year? Anyone know for sure on that? __________________ Just win.

03-05-2007, 01:50 PM	#12
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Next year for sure.

03-05-2007, 02:07 PM	#13
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: With Doc gone now, do we get a compensation pick? Lots of things enter into the compensatory draft formula: original draft position, value of the contract, games played under the new contract, and the ability to spell "ridiculous" after a few cocktails. While Dockery's value as a second round player who is making an ass-load of cash should help, his compensatory value will depend upon his ability to stay healthy for the Bills. Also, if one more person spells it "rediculous", we may actually forfeit a pick. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

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