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calia · 03-08-2007, 02:38 PM

Can someone explain to me why we haven't re-signed OL Todd Wade? He filled in very well for Jansen when he went down at one point last season, he knows the system, and isn't likely to break the bank. He got more PT than Pucillo (who we did re-sign) and, at a minimum, should be solid insurance.

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MTK · 03-08-2007, 02:41 PM

He's looking for a starting job at right tackle and has generated some interest from a few teams.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-08-2007, 02:42 PM

I'd honestly be weary of signing him to a lengthy extension with very limited experience with him as a player. Sure, he filled in admirably for Jansen that one game, but that's all we've seen of him.

Not only that, he wants to start. Say we do this: we give him a contract, start him at guard or tackle and he blows. Then we have to suck it up and have a malcontent sitting on the bench OR we take the inevitable huge cap hit because no one wants to trade for a crappy player.

If we could maybe sign him for a three year deal that would be reasonable.

Schneed10 · 03-08-2007, 02:45 PM

He wants to start, and I think he wants to start at tackle. We have an opening at guard, but that's probably not his first preference. It's not that we're not interested in retaining him, it's that he doesn't want to play behind Samuels and Jansen.

"It's not you, it's me."

FRPLG · 03-08-2007, 02:45 PM

Supposedly the defensive players rave about his play in practice. Of course everyone raved about Taylor Jacobs' play in practice to. How'd that go?

ronnieo · 03-08-2007, 02:46 PM

I agree, I guess they are waitng til the last minute to pull the plug. Seems like O-lineman are getting cut everyday. Getting him at a low cost would be nice because you know something is brewing with all the late restructuring of contracts.......Welcome Mr. Bly.....................

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-08-2007, 02:48 PM

I like the fact the market is getting totally saturated with seemingly decent stop-gap replacements at guard.

MTK · 03-08-2007, 02:50 PM

I'm really hoping we can land Mulitalo

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-08-2007, 02:50 PM

Lazy right now. How old is he? I also like the fact he's played next to Rabach before.

wilsowilso · 03-08-2007, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Lazy right now. How old is he? I also like the fact he's played next to Rabach before.

32 years and 350 punds.

calia · 03-08-2007, 02:53 PM

I am not suggesting a lengthy or lucrative contract or naming him a starter (although in view of your comment, perhaps not doing those things would make negotiations a non-starter). But he was insurance when we picked him up last year and I see no harm in seeing whether we can replicate that going into '07. In all of the stuff about FA signings, I just hadn't seen any mention of this guy at all.

MTK · 03-08-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by calia

I am not suggesting a lengthy or lucrative contract or naming him a starter

Well, in all likelihood that's exactly what he's looking for.

Longtimefan · 03-08-2007, 05:01 PM

I had proposed in another earlier post the idea of resigning Todd Wade with the thought of moving him to guard. Don't know if he can even play the position, but since he's in-house and obviously a pretty good player, I thought maybe the team would consider it, and he would be receptive to the idea. He has extended experience at the tackle position, but there's not a lot of openings for starting tackles right now.

freddyg12 · 03-08-2007, 06:25 PM

I'm wary of some of the vets that we might be able to sign. I'm not opposed to signing 1 or 2 for competition, so long as we draft somebody after we draft a D lineman. Guard is one spot a good rookie can come in & help. We need a guy that is hungry & wants to fit in & be molded by the other guys & the system. With many vets, they'll be coming here for a job to retire on. That's ok, so long as we have stiff competition in camp.

Basically, I think we can't count too much on any of the vets out there.

GMScud · 03-08-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm wary of some of the vets that we might be able to sign. I'm not opposed to signing 1 or 2 for competition, so long as we draft somebody after we draft a D lineman. Guard is one spot a good rookie can come in & help. We need a guy that is hungry & wants to fit in & be molded by the other guys & the system. With many vets, they'll be coming here for a job to retire on. That's ok, so long as we have stiff competition in camp.

Basically, I think we can't count too much on any of the vets out there.

Obviously at this point we aren't gonna make a big splash in free agency at the guard position. Giving a guy like Mulitalo a moderate contract and bringing in guys like this Ross Tucker fella is the right way to proceed. That being said, I still think we are going to use the draft in part for O-line regardless of what the rest of free agency brings.

I think we CAN count on vets for 1-2 seasons, but our entire line, including starters, is gonna start aging sooner rather than later, so the future is paramount, and the draft is certainly the best way to build. I think our FO may be finally realizing this now.

03-08-2007, 02:38 PM	#1
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 56 Posts: 3,553	OL Moves Can someone explain to me why we haven't re-signed OL Todd Wade? He filled in very well for Jansen when he went down at one point last season, he knows the system, and isn't likely to break the bank. He got more PT than Pucillo (who we did re-sign) and, at a minimum, should be solid insurance. Reactions?

03-08-2007, 02:41 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,568	Re: OL Moves He's looking for a starting job at right tackle and has generated some interest from a few teams. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-08-2007, 02:42 PM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: OL Moves I'd honestly be weary of signing him to a lengthy extension with very limited experience with him as a player. Sure, he filled in admirably for Jansen that one game, but that's all we've seen of him. Not only that, he wants to start. Say we do this: we give him a contract, start him at guard or tackle and he blows. Then we have to suck it up and have a malcontent sitting on the bench OR we take the inevitable huge cap hit because no one wants to trade for a crappy player. If we could maybe sign him for a three year deal that would be reasonable. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-08-2007, 02:45 PM	#4
Schneed10 A Dude Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Newtown Square, PA Age: 45 Posts: 12,426	Re: OL Moves He wants to start, and I think he wants to start at tackle. We have an opening at guard, but that's probably not his first preference. It's not that we're not interested in retaining him, it's that he doesn't want to play behind Samuels and Jansen. "It's not you, it's me." __________________ God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.

03-08-2007, 02:45 PM	#5
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	Re: OL Moves Supposedly the defensive players rave about his play in practice. Of course everyone raved about Taylor Jacobs' play in practice to. How'd that go?

03-08-2007, 02:46 PM	#6
ronnieo Camp Scrub Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35	Re: OL Moves I agree, I guess they are waitng til the last minute to pull the plug. Seems like O-lineman are getting cut everyday. Getting him at a low cost would be nice because you know something is brewing with all the late restructuring of contracts.......Welcome Mr. Bly.....................

03-08-2007, 02:48 PM	#7
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: OL Moves I like the fact the market is getting totally saturated with seemingly decent stop-gap replacements at guard. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-08-2007, 02:50 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,568	Re: OL Moves I'm really hoping we can land Mulitalo __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-08-2007, 02:50 PM	#9
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	Re: OL Moves Lazy right now. How old is he? I also like the fact he's played next to Rabach before. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

03-08-2007, 02:53 PM	#11
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 56 Posts: 3,553	Re: OL Moves I am not suggesting a lengthy or lucrative contract or naming him a starter (although in view of your comment, perhaps not doing those things would make negotiations a non-starter). But he was insurance when we picked him up last year and I see no harm in seeing whether we can replicate that going into '07. In all of the stuff about FA signings, I just hadn't seen any mention of this guy at all.

03-08-2007, 05:01 PM	#13
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: OL Moves I had proposed in another earlier post the idea of resigning Todd Wade with the thought of moving him to guard. Don't know if he can even play the position, but since he's in-house and obviously a pretty good player, I thought maybe the team would consider it, and he would be receptive to the idea. He has extended experience at the tackle position, but there's not a lot of openings for starting tackles right now. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

03-08-2007, 06:25 PM	#14
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: OL Moves I'm wary of some of the vets that we might be able to sign. I'm not opposed to signing 1 or 2 for competition, so long as we draft somebody after we draft a D lineman. Guard is one spot a good rookie can come in & help. We need a guy that is hungry & wants to fit in & be molded by the other guys & the system. With many vets, they'll be coming here for a job to retire on. That's ok, so long as we have stiff competition in camp. Basically, I think we can't count too much on any of the vets out there.

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