Clayton: NFC big questions

MTK · 05-03-2007, 04:49 PM

Nothing new here, but at least it's something to talk about other than picking up Joe Schmoe lineman:

ESPN.com - NFL - Clayton: NFC big questions

Washington Redskins

Can another safety help the pass rush?

Joe Gibbs thought LaRon Landry was the best defensive player in the draft, so he made him the sixth pick after repeated efforts to trade down. Now the Redskins have two of the most talented safeties in the league -- Landry and Sean Taylor, who was the fifth pick in the 2004 draft. The problem is the Redskins passed over a pass-rusher, Jamaal Anderson, to take Landry. The Redskins are calling all around to see if a veteran pass-rusher is available. The Redskins had only 19 sacks last season. Without any pressure on the quarterback, opponents had a 97.8 quarterback rating against them. Unless the Redskins can find a way to get a pass rush, Landy and Taylor might get a lot of opportunities to get tackles downfield.

GMScud · 05-03-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Nothing new here, but at least it's something to talk about other than picking up Joe Schmoe lineman:

ESPN.com - NFL - Clayton: NFC big questions

Washington Redskins

Can another safety help the pass rush?

Joe Gibbs thought LaRon Landry was the best defensive player in the draft, so he made him the sixth pick after repeated efforts to trade down. Now the Redskins have two of the most talented safeties in the league -- Landry and Sean Taylor, who was the fifth pick in the 2004 draft. The problem is the Redskins passed over a pass-rusher, Jamaal Anderson, to take Landry. The Redskins are calling all around to see if a veteran pass-rusher is available. The Redskins had only 19 sacks last season. Without any pressure on the quarterback, opponents had a 97.8 quarterback rating against them. Unless the Redskins can find a way to get a pass rush, Landy and Taylor might get a lot of opportunities to get tackles downfield.

I just mentioned this article in another thread. It says here that we are still actively looking for another pass-rusher, yet Gibbs said he is confident in our D-line as is. So what gives? I wonder who we are "calling around" to...

freddyg12 · 05-03-2007, 05:33 PM

I'm sure we are testing the waters some. I don't think Gibbs is being contradictory by saying he's fine w/the d line & looking for additional help at the same time. I think he's playing politics w/his existing troops to some degree, but he's always had confidence in vets & confidence that he could get more out of them.

I would honestly be surprised if we suddenly threw some big $ at somebody though. There are still a couple possibilities, but there's nobody that is real big time.

One guy I've been wondering about is Jevon Kearse. I recall someone mentioning him a few months ago as a potential june 1 cut. He has a history w/GW at Tenn. At this point in his career he's probably best as a situational pass rusher, which is what we need most, assuming he can get most of his burst back.

GMScud · 05-03-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

I'm sure we are testing the waters some. I don't think Gibbs is being contradictory by saying he's fine w/the d line & looking for additional help at the same time. I think he's playing politics w/his existing troops to some degree, but he's always had confidence in vets & confidence that he could get more out of them.

I would honestly be surprised if we suddenly threw some big $ at somebody though. There are still a couple possibilities, but there's nobody that is real big time.

One guy I've been wondering about is Jevon Kearse. I recall someone mentioning him a few months ago as a potential june 1 cut. He has a history w/GW at Tenn. At this point in his career he's probably best as a situational pass rusher, which is what we need most, assuming he can get most of his burst back.

Don't get me wrong, I love Kearse. He's a Gator and a great guy, but he's over 30 now and so darn injury prone....

freddyg12 · 05-03-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Don't get me wrong, I love Kearse. He's a Gator and a great guy, but he's over 30 now and so darn injury prone....

yeah, he's injury prone that's why he'd have to be a situational pass rusher (if he can still do that). wouldn't want to play him a lot of snaps.

Is he over 30 already? He was drafted in 2000 or so right?

GMScud · 05-03-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

yeah, he's injury prone that's why he'd have to be a situational pass rusher (if he can still do that). wouldn't want to play him a lot of snaps.

Is he over 30 already? He was drafted in 2000 or so right?

DOB 9/3/1976 Drafted in '99

freddyg12 · 05-03-2007, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

DOB 9/3/1976 Drafted in '99

dude will be 31 at season's start!
he might be able to contribute, have a couple more good years.

I'd rather see Hickman make the team, but I wouldn't be opposed to having Kearse in camp for vet min.

Rajmahal33 · 05-03-2007, 06:41 PM

the big question is will he be cut. any credible indications of that?

Longtimefan · 05-03-2007, 07:16 PM

There's no way Gibbs does not recognize the need for help in the d-line. and to ignore it, or pretend it does not exist is a mistake. Because there was no one at #6 they wanted to pay does not make the need go away.

skinsfan_nn · 05-03-2007, 08:32 PM

Joe says he's confident.....? until we sign our next player. Then HE IS REALLY confident! Just like I will be.

Pocket$ $traight · 05-03-2007, 09:14 PM

If re really want a good d-lineman shouldn't we act like we are fine. Otherwise the player has leverage.

dmek25 · 05-03-2007, 09:36 PM

smootsmack, what kind of decent linemen are available? kearse gets hurt getting out of bed in the morning

SmootSmack · 05-04-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

smootsmack, what kind of decent linemen are available? kearse gets hurt getting out of bed in the morning

Dmek sends the 3-0 fastball down to the middle, Smootsmack takes a swing and...sends Justin Smith over the leftfield wall!!!

Um, all the guys being mentioned Burgess, Justin Smith, Will Smith, Jazz, Carlton Banks

Southpaw · 05-04-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um, all the guys being mentioned Burgess, Justin Smith, Will Smith, Jazz, Carlton Banks

I bet Hillary or Aunt Viv could post as many sacks as Daniels did last season.

Seriously though, either Justin Smith or Will Smith would be great additions, but I don't see either of them coming cheaply.

jdlea · 05-04-2007, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Southpaw

I bet Hillary or Aunt Viv could post as many sacks as Daniels did last season.

Seriously though, either Justin Smith or Will Smith would be great additions, but I don't see either of them coming cheaply.

What makes me nervous about the Skins pursuing Will Smith/Justin Smith is that these two guys are actually good. They'll have another draft like this past one if they make one of these deals. A 3rd for Duckett and he was nothing, now they're trying to get a starter...if that doesn't say a starter and a 1st, I don't know what does to the Skins...

In all seriousness, though, I don't know if Justin/Will is worth much more than a 3. If Moss moves for a 4, Will/Justin Smith shouldn't fetch more than a 3rd round pick, then the question becomes, aren't they both worth more to their team than a 3rd round pick? The answer to that question has gotta be yes. I don't see the deal happening, but the Skins have pulled off stranger things.

05-03-2007, 04:49 PM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,570	Clayton: NFC big questions Nothing new here, but at least it's something to talk about other than picking up Joe Schmoe lineman: ESPN.com - NFL - Clayton: NFC big questions Washington Redskins Can another safety help the pass rush? Joe Gibbs thought LaRon Landry was the best defensive player in the draft, so he made him the sixth pick after repeated efforts to trade down. Now the Redskins have two of the most talented safeties in the league -- Landry and Sean Taylor, who was the fifth pick in the 2004 draft. The problem is the Redskins passed over a pass-rusher, Jamaal Anderson, to take Landry. The Redskins are calling all around to see if a veteran pass-rusher is available. The Redskins had only 19 sacks last season. Without any pressure on the quarterback, opponents had a 97.8 quarterback rating against them. Unless the Redskins can find a way to get a pass rush, Landy and Taylor might get a lot of opportunities to get tackles downfield. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

05-03-2007, 05:33 PM	#3
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Clayton: NFC big questions I'm sure we are testing the waters some. I don't think Gibbs is being contradictory by saying he's fine w/the d line & looking for additional help at the same time. I think he's playing politics w/his existing troops to some degree, but he's always had confidence in vets & confidence that he could get more out of them. I would honestly be surprised if we suddenly threw some big $ at somebody though. There are still a couple possibilities, but there's nobody that is real big time. One guy I've been wondering about is Jevon Kearse. I recall someone mentioning him a few months ago as a potential june 1 cut. He has a history w/GW at Tenn. At this point in his career he's probably best as a situational pass rusher, which is what we need most, assuming he can get most of his burst back.

05-03-2007, 06:41 PM	#8
Rajmahal33 Special Teams Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 478	Re: Clayton: NFC big questions the big question is will he be cut. any credible indications of that? __________________ McNasty FTW!

05-03-2007, 07:16 PM	#9
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Clayton: NFC big questions There's no way Gibbs does not recognize the need for help in the d-line. and to ignore it, or pretend it does not exist is a mistake. Because there was no one at #6 they wanted to pay does not make the need go away. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

05-03-2007, 08:32 PM	#10
skinsfan_nn Playmaker Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newport News,Virginia Age: 60 Posts: 4,495	Re: Clayton: NFC big questions Joe says he's confident.....? until we sign our next player. Then HE IS REALLY confident! Just like I will be. __________________ "There's no greater feeling than moving a man from Point A to Point B, against his will." #68 THANKS COACH GIBBS FOR EVERYTHING! YOUR THE MAN AND ALWAYS WILL BE!

05-03-2007, 09:14 PM	#11
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Clayton: NFC big questions If re really want a good d-lineman shouldn't we act like we are fine. Otherwise the player has leverage.

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