Playing good WR's

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 05-13-2007, 08:28 PM

I was looking at our schedule, and we are playing quite a few teams who will have a nasty pass offense (ie Patriots, Eagles, Giants, Cardinals, Jets, Lions), and I began to think to myself, how will we play these teams. To me it seems as if Gregg Williams defense relies on quality coverage so that there can be alot of blitzing. But when the other team will use many multiple wide reciever sets with multiple guys who are hard to gaurd, relying on quality coverage to blitz might be tricky. Do you think that we will double up on the high quality recievers such as moss, burress, owens, fitzgerald, boldin, williams, johnson, and coles, and therefore not be able to blitz as much, or do you think that we will rely on single good coverage and expect that to work, and still blitz a whole lot. Personally, I think that Williams will try to rely on good coverage, and will not double team many players, and will still try to blitz alot. This will lead to someone getting burned more than he should be and everyone hating on him even though he has been asked to do something unreasonable by being asked to single cover a great WR almost all the time.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-13-2007, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

I was looking at our schedule, and we are playing quite a few teams who will have a nasty pass offense (ie Patriots, Eagles, Giants, Cardinals, Jets, Lions), and I began to think to myself, how will we play these teams. To me it seems as if Gregg Williams defense relies on quality coverage so that there can be alot of blitzing. But when the other team will use many multiple wide reciever sets with multiple guys who are hard to gaurd, relying on quality coverage to blitz might be tricky. Do you think that we will double up on the high quality recievers such as moss, burress, owens, fitzgerald, boldin, williams, johnson, and coles, and therefore not be able to blitz as much, or do you think that we will rely on single good coverage and expect that to work, and still blitz a whole lot. Personally, I think that Williams will try to rely on good coverage, and will not double team many players, and will still try to blitz alot. This will lead to someone getting burned more than he should be and everyone hating on him even though he has been asked to do something unreasonable by being asked to single cover a great WR almost all the time.

we play them with our two best corners springs and smoot playing man and landry and taylor with help over the top

Southpaw · 05-14-2007, 12:43 PM

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we play them with our two best corners springs and smoot playing man and landry and taylor with help over the top

Smoot is not one of the two best corners on the team. He may have better hands than Rogers, but he gives about the same cushion, and he's a half assed tackler.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-14-2007, 02:27 PM

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Smoot is not one of the two best corners on the team. He may have better hands than Rogers, but he gives about the same cushion, and he's a half assed tackler.

but has better cover skills it seems and plays faster

Southpaw · 05-14-2007, 03:01 PM

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but has better cover skills it seems and plays faster

I disagree on both counts. At best, Smoot's cover skills might be equal with Rogers. Either way, Rogers plays the run far better, and barring an injury, there's no way Smoot starts over Rogers.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-14-2007, 04:36 PM

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I disagree on both counts. At best, Smoot's cover skills might be equal with Rogers. Either way, Rogers plays the run far better, and barring an injury, there's no way Smoot starts over Rogers.

thats ur opinion i guess look at their first 2 seasons in the league and remember if smoot stays rogers plays for someone else

SantanaMan · 05-14-2007, 06:21 PM

I seem to remember Gibbs saying that Carlos played a good portion of last season with a broken hand (or at least broke it and came back asap to try and help the team) - as can be seen from examples like TO, a hand injury can cause havoc when trying to catch the ball (possibly causing many of his drops) - plus CBs have been described as WRs would can't catch so add a hand injury to that and its not suprising all the drops.

I reckon Carlos starts in our 3-5-6-9 defensive backfield (Springs 3rd overall, Tayor 5th, Landry 6th, Rogers 9th) and Smoot coming off the bench but playing substantial minutes allowing us to keep our top 2 CBs fresh due to a rotation.

hesscl34 · 05-14-2007, 03:43 PM

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we play them with our two best corners springs and smoot playing man and landry and taylor with help over the top

Exactly... and bench Rogers.

wolfeskins · 05-13-2007, 09:40 PM

out of the 6 teams you mentioned, only the pats and the cards have really good wrs.
i don't even know who the starting wrs are for the iggles.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-13-2007, 09:43 PM

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out of the 6 teams you mentioned, only the pats and the cards have really good wrs.
i don't even know who the starting wrs are for the iggles.

kevin curtis and reggie brown ohhhhhhhhhhh i am shaking lol but if mcnabb is healthy they become average if anyone else we will win the week 2 game

EXoffender · 05-13-2007, 09:56 PM

We will shut 'em down.

BeastsoftheNFCeast · 05-13-2007, 10:37 PM

all right, I guess I messed up on Philly, but I only added them cause they have such a good passing game, they had the most passing yards last season, I guess I overlooked that they dont have any stud wr's. But I do think that Det does in Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson, Dal does in TO, Terry Glenn, and Jason Witten, the Gialnts do in Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Jeremy Shokey, and the X-factor of steve smith and sinorice moss being good (they are undecided yet because of their age), and the Jets do in Laverneous Coles, and Jerricho Cotchery.

dmek25 · 05-13-2007, 10:38 PM

get to the quarterback. thats how you stop any good offense

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 05-14-2007, 12:03 PM

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get to the quarterback. thats how you stop any good offense

once again dmek answers the question

SBXVII · 05-14-2007, 12:24 AM

If they don't match up man to man they will probubly use zone coverages as they have in the past. Either way if Taylor is aloud to roam the back field I think WR's will be a little Hesitant to go deep. We may see more offenses going 5-10 yrds all the way down the field. They may use more TE's also. Their size is a better match with Taylor.

05-13-2007, 08:28 PM	#1
BeastsoftheNFCeast Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 331	Playing good WR's I was looking at our schedule, and we are playing quite a few teams who will have a nasty pass offense (ie Patriots, Eagles, Giants, Cardinals, Jets, Lions), and I began to think to myself, how will we play these teams. To me it seems as if Gregg Williams defense relies on quality coverage so that there can be alot of blitzing. But when the other team will use many multiple wide reciever sets with multiple guys who are hard to gaurd, relying on quality coverage to blitz might be tricky. Do you think that we will double up on the high quality recievers such as moss, burress, owens, fitzgerald, boldin, williams, johnson, and coles, and therefore not be able to blitz as much, or do you think that we will rely on single good coverage and expect that to work, and still blitz a whole lot. Personally, I think that Williams will try to rely on good coverage, and will not double team many players, and will still try to blitz alot. This will lead to someone getting burned more than he should be and everyone hating on him even though he has been asked to do something unreasonable by being asked to single cover a great WR almost all the time.

05-14-2007, 06:21 PM	#7
SantanaMan Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 224	Re: Playing good WR's I seem to remember Gibbs saying that Carlos played a good portion of last season with a broken hand (or at least broke it and came back asap to try and help the team) - as can be seen from examples like TO, a hand injury can cause havoc when trying to catch the ball (possibly causing many of his drops) - plus CBs have been described as WRs would can't catch so add a hand injury to that and its not suprising all the drops. I reckon Carlos starts in our 3-5-6-9 defensive backfield (Springs 3rd overall, Tayor 5th, Landry 6th, Rogers 9th) and Smoot coming off the bench but playing substantial minutes allowing us to keep our top 2 CBs fresh due to a rotation.

05-13-2007, 09:40 PM	#9
wolfeskins The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: chesapeake,va. Posts: 2,160	Re: Playing good WR's out of the 6 teams you mentioned, only the pats and the cards have really good wrs. i don't even know who the starting wrs are for the iggles. __________________ Hail to Allen/Shanahan .... bring in some baby hogs and load up on diesel fuel !!! (budw38)

05-13-2007, 09:56 PM	#11
EXoffender The Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Norfolk, Va Posts: 1,046	Re: Playing good WR's We will shut 'em down.

05-13-2007, 10:37 PM	#12
BeastsoftheNFCeast Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 331	Re: Playing good WR's all right, I guess I messed up on Philly, but I only added them cause they have such a good passing game, they had the most passing yards last season, I guess I overlooked that they dont have any stud wr's. But I do think that Det does in Roy Williams and Calvin Johnson, Dal does in TO, Terry Glenn, and Jason Witten, the Gialnts do in Plaxico Burress, Amani Toomer, Jeremy Shokey, and the X-factor of steve smith and sinorice moss being good (they are undecided yet because of their age), and the Jets do in Laverneous Coles, and Jerricho Cotchery.

05-13-2007, 10:38 PM	#13
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Playing good WR's get to the quarterback. thats how you stop any good offense __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

05-14-2007, 12:24 AM	#15
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: Playing good WR's If they don't match up man to man they will probubly use zone coverages as they have in the past. Either way if Taylor is aloud to roam the back field I think WR's will be a little Hesitant to go deep. We may see more offenses going 5-10 yrds all the way down the field. They may use more TE's also. Their size is a better match with Taylor.

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