Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll

SmootSmack · 06-12-2007, 04:54 PM

As we look ahead to the 2007 season, who most needs to take that next step in their pro career for the Redskins to be successful (playoffs). For the purposes of this poll, Jason Campbell is not an eligible option because we all know it ultimately rests on his shoulders.

Kedrick Golston
LaRon Landry
Rocky McIntosh
Carlos Rogers
Todd Wade (at LG)
Other (explain)

Hog1 · 06-12-2007, 04:58 PM

Rogers........Big signing, questionable performance

jdlea · 06-12-2007, 05:00 PM

I voted Rogers, however, I think they all need to step up. I went with Rogers because he was the 9th overall pick (a pick I didn't like at the time) and he hasn't shown me any reason to believe he'll be a #1 corner. I think he's a lot better than people think, but he's not THAT good. He should be a shut down corner if he's gonna go 9.

ArtMonkDrillz · 06-12-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I voted Rogers, however, I think they all need to step up. I went with Rogers because he was the 9th overall pick (a pick I didn't like at the time) and he hasn't shown me any reason to believe he'll be a #1 corner. I think he's a lot better than people think, but he's not THAT good. He should be a shut down corner if he's gonna go 9.

Oh... It... We... have no response. That was perfect

SmootSmack · 06-12-2007, 05:43 PM

Hooskins, maybe "Other" shouldn't have been an option. Oh well, leason learned

Redskins_P · 06-14-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I voted Rogers, however, I think they all need to step up. I went with Rogers because he was the 9th overall pick (a pick I didn't like at the time) and he hasn't shown me any reason to believe he'll be a #1 corner. I think he's a lot better than people think, but he's not THAT good. He should be a shut down corner if he's gonna go 9.

What he said....

12thMan · 06-12-2007, 05:02 PM

Gregg Williams. I think I've been pretty consistent with my critism of him dating back to last season.

Before we start preaching about how he's only the coach and he can't tackle or catch the ball, I want to take it a step further.

Those things are absolutely true. But I think he reacted too slowly with integrating Rocky McIntosh into the starting lineup and making other defensive adjustments. By all accounts, thus far, Rocky could end being a gem. Another thing, how is it that Tiki Barber has a career game against every time he plays against us? Where's the game planning? Where's the mentality, if you beat us it won't be with Tiki rushing for over 200 yrds! Why not make Eli Manning beat you with 40 passes?

In my opinion it's the coaches job to "polish" off the talent that exists. I didn't get that impression from Williams last year. Another thing, defensively we didn't play with any fire or urgency last season. You say this was the players fault. I say they didn't whole heartedly buy into what the staff laid out for them on Sundays. These guys are professionals and they have to strap it on every Sunday, I understand that. It just seemed to me that Williams was more interested in doing post game interviews on Comcast rather than make radical adjusments and hold his staff accountable for poor performance after poor performance.

Beemnseven · 06-13-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Gregg Williams. I think I've been pretty consistent with my critism of him dating back to last season.

Before we start preaching about how he's only the coach and he can't tackle or catch the ball, I want to take it a step further.

Those things are absolutely true. But I think he reacted too slowly with integrating Rocky McIntosh into the starting lineup and making other defensive adjustments. By all accounts, thus far, Rocky could end being a gem. Another thing, how is it that Tiki Barber has a career game against every time he plays against us? Where's the game planning? Where's the mentality, if you beat us it won't be with Tiki rushing for over 200 yrds! Why not make Eli Manning beat you with 40 passes?

In my opinion it's the coaches job to "polish" off the talent that exists. I didn't get that impression from Williams last year. Another thing, defensively we didn't play with any fire or urgency last season. You say this was the players fault. I say they didn't whole heartedly buy into what the staff laid out for them on Sundays. These guys are professionals and they have to strap it on every Sunday, I understand that. It just seemed to me that Williams was more interested in doing post game interviews on Comcast rather than make radical adjusments and hold his staff accountable for poor performance after poor performance.

McIntosh "could be a gem"? By what accounts?

The only fault I can find with the coaches is their apparent role in personnel decision making. Williams' system didn't change from 2004 to '05 or '06. The only thing that did change was the age of the players, specifically along the defensive line. Then there was the injury to Springs. Again, that's a testament to personnel decisions -- your pass rush shouldn't hinge so heavily on one cornerback; the D-line has to step up and get pressure when everybody else in the secondary sucks so bad that they can't blitz. No coach can "polish" has-been defensive linemen into effective pass rushers.

12thMan · 06-13-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Beemnseven

McIntosh "could be a gem"? By what accounts?

The only fault I can find with the coaches is their apparent role in personnel decision making. Williams' system didn't change from 2004 to '05 or '06. The only thing that did change was the age of the players, specifically along the defensive line. Then there was the injury to Springs. Again, that's a testament to personnel decisions -- your pass rush shouldn't hinge so heavily on one cornerback; the D-line has to step up and get pressure when everybody else in the secondary sucks so bad that they can't blitz. No coach can "polish" has-been defensive linemen into effective pass rushers.

I don't think it's out of the question that Rocky could be a gem. The accounts I'm speaking of were reported in WP. He was pretty good on teams last year, and the one game he did start was a solid outing. I think two young backer to watch in our division this season will be McIntosh and Bobby Carpenter (Cowboys)

You're right, no coach can "polish" an aging player, but he damn sure can help him with technique, which can improve pass rushing skills.

GTripp0012 · 06-14-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

You're right, no coach can "polish" an aging player, but he damn sure can help him with technique, which can improve pass rushing skills.

He probably did do everything he could to help the technique of his guys. I tend to agree with Beems though, it isn't going to help all that much.

TheMalcolmConnection · 06-12-2007, 05:05 PM

I say Rocky. It won't take a lot for him to step it up compared to Holdman, but that was arguably our weakest link last year. Sure Carlos has some improvement to do, but that was nowhere near the ineptitude of Warrick Holdman. If Rocky can at least be MEDIOCRE that'll make a huge difference in our run defense and in turn our reaction to the playaction.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 06-12-2007, 05:06 PM

Rogers without question. This is a guy who was drafted ninth overall and to now he has done NOTHING to show for it. 3 interceptions in two seasons. We are not talking about some walk-on scrub this guy was a thorpe award winner. I am sick of him getting burnt. Get up on the line jam the WR's and run with them. I mean he runs a 4.37 god!!!!!!!!!!!1 If he doesn't start doing this, he WILL be riding the bench.

4mrusmc · 06-14-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Rogers without question. This is a guy who was drafted ninth overall and to now he has done NOTHING to show for it. 3 interceptions in two seasons. We are not talking about some walk-on scrub this guy was a thorpe award winner. I am sick of him getting burnt. Get up on the line jam the WR's and run with them. I mean he runs a 4.37 god!!!!!!!!!!!1 If he doesn't start doing this, he WILL be riding the bench.

Thankyou quake for showing a little care and concern for this team. It is refreshing to see a little emotion and heart about obvious matters concerning the weak links on this team. I am little troubled by some of the people here who are so eager to defend or explain away their pathatic play.

firstdown · 06-12-2007, 05:09 PM

I voted the whole team. If we look back to last year we could name a few spots or players who had a good year. But now that I think about it maybe the O line was the only part of our team really clicking and hats off to Betts. We need everyone to re-focus and get this thing going.

jbcjr14 · 06-12-2007, 05:10 PM

I said Wade. Filling the left guard position is CRUTIAL to the offenses success. The Skins can ill afford to have a gaping hole on the left side as pressure up the middle can kill an offensive scheme regardless of how good it may be. If Wade steps in and performs, this offense has a much better chance of being VERY good. If not, the team will struggle until they put in the patchwork to fix a leaky line.

View Poll Results: Who Needs to Step Up in 2007 (Campbell not eligible)
Golston	5	4.59%
Landry	1	0.92%
McIntosh	15	13.76%
Rogers	64	58.72%
Wade	9	8.26%
Other (explain)	15	13.76%
Voters: 109. You may not vote on this poll

06-12-2007, 04:58 PM	#2
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll Rogers........Big signing, questionable performance __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

06-12-2007, 05:00 PM	#3
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll I voted Rogers, however, I think they all need to step up. I went with Rogers because he was the 9th overall pick (a pick I didn't like at the time) and he hasn't shown me any reason to believe he'll be a #1 corner. I think he's a lot better than people think, but he's not THAT good. He should be a shut down corner if he's gonna go 9.

06-12-2007, 05:43 PM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll Hooskins, maybe "Other" shouldn't have been an option. Oh well, leason learned __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-12-2007, 05:02 PM	#7
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,460	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll Gregg Williams. I think I've been pretty consistent with my critism of him dating back to last season. Before we start preaching about how he's only the coach and he can't tackle or catch the ball, I want to take it a step further. Those things are absolutely true. But I think he reacted too slowly with integrating Rocky McIntosh into the starting lineup and making other defensive adjustments. By all accounts, thus far, Rocky could end being a gem. Another thing, how is it that Tiki Barber has a career game against every time he plays against us? Where's the game planning? Where's the mentality, if you beat us it won't be with Tiki rushing for over 200 yrds! Why not make Eli Manning beat you with 40 passes? In my opinion it's the coaches job to "polish" off the talent that exists. I didn't get that impression from Williams last year. Another thing, defensively we didn't play with any fire or urgency last season. You say this was the players fault. I say they didn't whole heartedly buy into what the staff laid out for them on Sundays. These guys are professionals and they have to strap it on every Sunday, I understand that. It just seemed to me that Williams was more interested in doing post game interviews on Comcast rather than make radical adjusments and hold his staff accountable for poor performance after poor performance.

06-12-2007, 04:54 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll As we look ahead to the 2007 season, who most needs to take that next step in their pro career for the Redskins to be successful (playoffs). For the purposes of this poll, Jason Campbell is not an eligible option because we all know it ultimately rests on his shoulders. Kedrick Golston LaRon Landry Rocky McIntosh Carlos Rogers Todd Wade (at LG) Other (explain) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-12-2007, 05:05 PM	#11
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll I say Rocky. It won't take a lot for him to step it up compared to Holdman, but that was arguably our weakest link last year. Sure Carlos has some improvement to do, but that was nowhere near the ineptitude of Warrick Holdman. If Rocky can at least be MEDIOCRE that'll make a huge difference in our run defense and in turn our reaction to the playaction. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

06-12-2007, 05:06 PM	#12
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,167	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll Rogers without question. This is a guy who was drafted ninth overall and to now he has done NOTHING to show for it. 3 interceptions in two seasons. We are not talking about some walk-on scrub this guy was a thorpe award winner. I am sick of him getting burnt. Get up on the line jam the WR's and run with them. I mean he runs a 4.37 god!!!!!!!!!!!1 If he doesn't start doing this, he WILL be riding the bench. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

06-12-2007, 05:09 PM	#14
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 60 Posts: 15,817	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll I voted the whole team. If we look back to last year we could name a few spots or players who had a good year. But now that I think about it maybe the O line was the only part of our team really clicking and hats off to Betts. We need everyone to re-focus and get this thing going.

06-12-2007, 05:10 PM	#15
jbcjr14 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 54 Posts: 2,015	Re: Hooskins Presents the "Who Needs to Step Up" Poll I said Wade. Filling the left guard position is CRUTIAL to the offenses success. The Skins can ill afford to have a gaping hole on the left side as pressure up the middle can kill an offensive scheme regardless of how good it may be. If Wade steps in and performs, this offense has a much better chance of being VERY good. If not, the team will struggle until they put in the patchwork to fix a leaky line. __________________ "Work Harder: millions on welfare are counting on you" - Obama 2009 address to Congress.

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