Let's talk about the onsides kick today

[MTK]

Hell of a call if you ask me, very ballsy call in fact.

At that point in the game we were down 17-6 with about 5 minutes to go in the first half. If we don't recover the Jets are in prime field position and could have put the game away with a TD. Instead it only leads to 3 points, but in the grand scheme of the game it was a big play and a gutsy call. For all the criticism the team takes for not being aggressive enough, let's at least give some props for this one.

[SFREDSKIN]

It was ugly, but we were lucky to have the Rock back and save our behinds with his recovery.

[MTRedskinsFan]

I thought the two pt conversion was more gutsy.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

I thought the two pt conversion was more gutsy.

How so? That's a pretty easy decision to make in that situation.

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

How so? That's a pretty easy decision to make in that situation.

Really? How many times have we all seen false starts way down in the redzone and the line of scrimage pushed back 5 or 10 yards? Or how many times have we looked rushed in similar situations and the play is botched?

The call showed more confidence in our guys and they stepped up.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Really? How many times have we all seen false starts way down in the redzone and the line of scrimage pushed back 5 or 10 yards? Or how many times have we looked rushed in similar situations and the play is botched?

The call showed more confidence in our guys and they stepped up.

I guess those things don't happen all the time after all.

[mheisig]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Really? How many times have we all seen false starts way down in the redzone and the line of scrimage pushed back 5 or 10 yards? Or how many times have we looked rushed in similar situations and the play is botched?

The call showed more confidence in our guys and they stepped up.

The 2-point conversion was a no-brainer. Kicking the XP would only put us up 2 points. Going for the 2-point conversion would mean we were only up 1 point, but getting it puts us up 3 points. Being up 1 point vs being up 2 points is irrelevant, being up 3 points is a big deal.

There's nothing gutsy or ballsy about that call, that's just common sense.

[JWsleep]

Gutsy call. I like that they scouted that and gave it a shot. Big momentum booster, and nice play by Rock to recover. They didn't quite hit it where they wanted, but they practiced it all week in scouting the tendencies of one of the Jets coverage guys. Well done.

(Oh, and what was that fake field goal fake to get a delay penalty thingy???)

[MTK]

Either way, the Jets needed a FG and if you don't go for 2 a FG wins it for them. Easy call to make.

[JWsleep]

The 2-pt conversion is strictly dictated by score there. Kicking puts you up 2--that's no better than being up 1--a FG beats both. The 2-pt puts you at 3--a FG only ties.

PS We should use our 2-pt conversion play on short-yardage inside the 10--it works better!

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

PS We should use our 2-pt conversion play on short-yardage inside the 10--it works better!

they called that play earlier in the redzone and it failed miserably... it looked like JC stared down the outside route and it was covered.


AS far as the call... hell yeah it was gutsy. I said it in the game thread, but if you call a conservative offense when your d is playing lights out, you have to step it up when your d is struggling.

I do hope GW can get these guys back on track. they did get the job done, but did not look like the same unit we saw prior to the pats game... i wonder if the pats gave everyone enough film to watch to expose us for the rest of the year....

[MTRedskinsFan]

The 2pt call also showed confidence in JC specifically. After three fumbles under pressure last week and the risk of getting picked (in which either scenario could lead to a Jets run back TD) they put the ball in Campbell's hands.

The ultra-conservative, sometimes suspect playcalling in other games would have been more toward settling for the extra pt. and putting it on the defense to keep NY out of field goal range.

It was a good call and a good play.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

The ultra-conservative, sometimes suspect playcalling in other games would have been more toward settling for the extra pt. and putting it on the defense to keep NY out of field goal range.

It was a good call and a good play.

had they gone for one, i think gibbs would have been fired for senility... one does you no good, you may as well come out and take a knee.

your d is going to try to stop them either way, but if you get one, and they kick a field goal they win... if you get none and they kick a field goal they win...

you're realy not helping yourself with the extra point at all..

get the "point"

[MTRedskinsFan]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

had they gone for one, i think gibbs would have been fired for senility... one does you no good, you may as well come out and take a knee.

your d is going to try to stop them either way, but if you get one, and they kick a field goal they win... if you get none and they kick a field goal they win...

you're realy not helping yourself with the extra point at all..

get the "point"

Yeah, but like I said, if in going for two your qb, who fumbled three times last week, does it again or throws a pick, either of which could easily end in a Jets TD, you're in a big shit pile of trouble. Would those necessarily be my thoughts standing on the sidelines? How about no, Scott. But ultra-conservative play-calling has sort of been the standard, wouldn't you say, Scott?

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by MTRedskinsFan

Yeah, but like I said, if in going for two your qb, who fumbled three times last week, does it again or throws a pick, either of which could easily end in a Jets TD, you're in a big shit pile of trouble. Would those necessarily be my thoughts standing on the sidelines? How about no, Scott. But ultra-conservative play-calling has sort of been the standard, wouldn't you say, Scott?

You're missing the point. There is only one play to run there--2 pt conversion. Every coach in the NFL would run it, and would be properly criticized if they didn't. Since kicking does you NO GOOD THERE, you might as well try it.

As for picks and fumbles--that could happen on any play. By your logic, JC shouldn't have touched the ball today. Either he can play, and you run your offense, or you bench him. But once the decision is made to play him, in that situation, you go for 2--every time.