Top Five QBs of the Past 25 Years

SmootSmack · 08-08-2004, 03:56 PM

Watching the Hall of Fame inductions today has me wondering who would you guys say are the five best QBs of the past 25 years? I thought all-time would be way too difficult.

Here's what I'm thinking:

1. Joe Montana: Never thought he couldn't pull out a victory
2. Brett Favre: Has there been a better peformance in recent memory than his MNF game last year against the Raiders the day after his dad died?
3. John Elway: Where would he stand if he never got his two Super Bowls?
4. Dan Marino: Kicked ass in Tecmo Bowl!
5. Jim Kelly: Always felt he was somewhat underrated actually

This leaves off QBs such as Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Phil Simms, among others

Who would you guys put in your top 5?

Daseal · 08-08-2004, 04:11 PM

Well, A lot of those guys are talented, but here's my list in no particular order:

Michael Vick - Never has a quarterback been such a hassel to defense. He can make the play with his arm and his legs.

Randall Cunningham - See above, the father of it all.

Favre - I hate him, but I have to put him in here. Warrior.

Elway - perhaps one of the greatest atheletes ever in the NFL, even though his career started out just like your hated Manning. I love how he refused to go to NE if they drafted him, but went to Denver and now he's a hero and no one's upset about the hold out.

McNair - does anyone else give THAT much for his team?

Danny Weurffel - Able to perfectly execute Steve Spurriers offense even though he lacked arm strength. Easy induction into the HoF.

SmootSmack · 08-08-2004, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daseal

Well, A lot of those guys are talented, but here's my list in no particular order:

Michael Vick - Never has a quarterback been such a hassel to defense. He can make the play with his arm and his legs.

Randall Cunningham - See above, the father of it all.

Favre - I hate him, but I have to put him in here. Warrior.

Elway - perhaps one of the greatest atheletes ever in the NFL, even though his career started out just like your hated Manning. I love how he refused to go to NE if they drafted him, but went to Denver and now he's a hero and no one's upset about the hold out.

McNair - does anyone else give THAT much for his team?

Danny Weurffel - Able to perfectly execute Steve Spurriers offense even though he lacked arm strength. Easy induction into the HoF.

Too early to tell on Vick, at this point Daunte Culpepper has done more damage with his arm and legs.

Why do you hate Favre?

It was Baltimore for Elway and as I understand it people there are still bitter.

I love McNair and it was tough for me to keep him off the top 5. How is it that when McNair skips practice to nurse injuries yet plays, once a week mind you, he's a "warrior" yet Allen Iverson does the same, and plays nearly every day, and he's "all that's wrong with today's athlete"

Wuerffel and Jacquez Green, HOF, Class of 2008!

I forgot about Dan Fouts, he should receive some votes as well

SKINSnCANES · 08-08-2004, 04:51 PM

lol...oh DaSeal....and what exactly do you mean by perfectly execute? I guess a perfect Spurrier system doesnt have to equate victory...

I wouldnt put Vick on the list, because being a great QB is more then just you ability. Vick could be great but hes got to get some seasons under his belt first. Cunningham definitly helped start that type of QB though, remember how good he was with the Vikings at the end of his career?

Phil Simms is one of those guys that its easy to argue he should be on that list. Because he had a great career without really ever having a great receiver. Montana had some of the best receivers ever. Not to take away from him, hes still probably one of the best ever, but Simms had a heck of a carrer without havign stars around him.

I like the McNair call. the guy hasnt practiced in what, 15 years? He just sits crimpled during the week playing madden, then lights it up on Sunday.

SKINSnCANES · 08-08-2004, 06:37 PM

its his look.. If McNair was covered in tattoos they would think hes a rebel and a bad role model to. Either way they both can play.

arrington_QBkiller · 08-08-2004, 06:48 PM

Vick has only started 21 games in 3 seasons, he can't possibly be on the list

1. Joe Montana - best ever
2.. Dan Marino - made every play with his arm, don't believe I ever saw him roll out of the Pocket
3. John Elway - very Montanalike, wish he was still playing
4. Jim Kelly - very underrated, would he be on top if he had won a superbowl?
5. Brett Favre - he'll never hang it up

Thought about putting Aikman up there, as a Redskins fan I couldn't bring myself to do it

SKINSnCANES · 08-08-2004, 06:54 PM

if you did atleast its what of the few cowboys with class.

Favre will never hang it up but I dont know if that makes him a great QB. Hes had a good career but I dont thinkk hes done that well in recent years and that hes become overrated. He used to be able to make plays and comebacks. It seems now that hes more likely to throw a pick then anything. I watched him a bunch of times last year throw balls taht were just stupid, I thought I was watching a rookie and not a potential hall of famer. He wants his ring, and is sticking around to try and get it, but i dont think hes good enough anymore to lead that team to the superbowl

MTK · 08-08-2004, 06:56 PM

1. Montana: great leader and was always cool when the heat was on
2. Marino: best pure passer the league will probably ever see
3. Elway: gotta love the way he rode out on top with 2 straight rings
4. Favre: another ring and I would rate him above Elway, pure gunslinger
5. Aikman: yeah I know he was the enemy but I always had great respect for him

regulus881 · 08-08-2004, 07:26 PM

new here ...
in no order
montana
young
elway
favre
marino

1. how can you say favre is just good? he's amazing. privilege to watch him.

2. cunningham was good. that's it.

3. favre, manning, mcnair, brady, culpepper, and mcnabb are currently the top qbs. pennington is really close since he doesn't have that many seaons under is belt. also creeping in is hasselback.

4. vick cannot be metioned at all. exciting to watch? yes, but he hasn't even played two full seaons yet.

5. how can no one mention young?

6. sims, fouts, aikman and kelly round out the top 9. sorry, can't think of one more qb off the top of my head.

SmootSmack · 08-08-2004, 07:37 PM

regulus, good to hear from you, nice first post

regulus881 · 08-08-2004, 07:39 PM

thanks smootsmack... been reading stuff here for quite some time, just never posted. much better than hailredskins.com, that is for sure. i thank my friend DaSeal for showing me the light.

Winskins · 08-08-2004, 08:11 PM

Hey guys! Good posts so far. I can agree that all the quarterbacks mentioned above are excellent. However, I believe the greatest quarterback that I have ever seen is Joe Montana, who many refer to as "Joe Cool".

He didn't have a lot of the physical tools that a lot of other quarterbacks had, like the cannon arm, great speed, or a towering stature, but he had all the intangibles. Montana was a winner.

In his career, he had 31 fourth quarter come back victories. He won all 4 Superbowls that he went to. He won 3 Superbowl MVP's, more than any other player in NFL history.

In his Superbowl games, he completed 83-122 passes for 1,142 yards with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. His QB rating was 127.8. He was unflappable under pressure.

Sure, he had great receivers, but so do many other QB's, the difference was in Joe's demeanor. He electrified the huddle when he entered it. His coolness was always present even in the roughest of situations. During a huddle in the 1989 Superbowl vs. the Bengals, with the 49'ers down by 3 and 3:20 on the clock Joe spotted something. Not something special about the defense, but rather he pointed to the stands and said "isn't that John Candy." Afterwards, he continued to lead the 49'ers 92 yards, throwing the winning touchdown with 34 seconds remaining.

So, some quarterbakcs I have seen are very good, but only one has been great and that was Joe Cool. His ability to win under pressure has been unparalleled over the past 20 years.

skin4Life28 · 08-08-2004, 08:31 PM

Sammy Baugh
Sonny Jergensen
Joe Thiesman
Doug Williams
Mark Rypien

I cant think of anything better!

Daseal · 08-08-2004, 08:47 PM

Sammy Baugh been within 25 years? =p

I feel Vick deserves the list. Name one QB that threatens defensive coordinators now days, sure he hasn't been consistant. However he has arm strength, accuracy, and moves that are simply mind boggling. Provided his career lasts 7+ years he'll be recognized as one of the greatest. I feel he does more with nothing than a lot of the other QBs mentioned.

I don't feel brady deserves to make the list. That's like putting Jake DelHomme on there.

Reg - Cunningham was more than "good" man. Dude was a beast!

huntz · 08-08-2004, 10:23 PM

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08-08-2004, 03:56 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Top Five QBs of the Past 25 Years Watching the Hall of Fame inductions today has me wondering who would you guys say are the five best QBs of the past 25 years? I thought all-time would be way too difficult. Here's what I'm thinking: 1. Joe Montana: Never thought he couldn't pull out a victory 2. Brett Favre: Has there been a better peformance in recent memory than his MNF game last year against the Raiders the day after his dad died? 3. John Elway: Where would he stand if he never got his two Super Bowls? 4. Dan Marino: Kicked ass in Tecmo Bowl! 5. Jim Kelly: Always felt he was somewhat underrated actually This leaves off QBs such as Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, Phil Simms, among others Who would you guys put in your top 5? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-08-2004, 04:51 PM	#4
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	lol...oh DaSeal....and what exactly do you mean by perfectly execute? I guess a perfect Spurrier system doesnt have to equate victory... I wouldnt put Vick on the list, because being a great QB is more then just you ability. Vick could be great but hes got to get some seasons under his belt first. Cunningham definitly helped start that type of QB though, remember how good he was with the Vikings at the end of his career? Phil Simms is one of those guys that its easy to argue he should be on that list. Because he had a great career without really ever having a great receiver. Montana had some of the best receivers ever. Not to take away from him, hes still probably one of the best ever, but Simms had a heck of a carrer without havign stars around him. I like the McNair call. the guy hasnt practiced in what, 15 years? He just sits crimpled during the week playing madden, then lights it up on Sunday. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-08-2004, 06:37 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	its his look.. If McNair was covered in tattoos they would think hes a rebel and a bad role model to. Either way they both can play. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-08-2004, 06:54 PM	#7
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	if you did atleast its what of the few cowboys with class. Favre will never hang it up but I dont know if that makes him a great QB. Hes had a good career but I dont thinkk hes done that well in recent years and that hes become overrated. He used to be able to make plays and comebacks. It seems now that hes more likely to throw a pick then anything. I watched him a bunch of times last year throw balls taht were just stupid, I thought I was watching a rookie and not a potential hall of famer. He wants his ring, and is sticking around to try and get it, but i dont think hes good enough anymore to lead that team to the superbowl __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-08-2004, 06:56 PM	#8
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,608	1. Montana: great leader and was always cool when the heat was on 2. Marino: best pure passer the league will probably ever see 3. Elway: gotta love the way he rode out on top with 2 straight rings 4. Favre: another ring and I would rate him above Elway, pure gunslinger 5. Aikman: yeah I know he was the enemy but I always had great respect for him __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

08-08-2004, 04:11 PM	#2
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Well, A lot of those guys are talented, but here's my list in no particular order: Michael Vick - Never has a quarterback been such a hassel to defense. He can make the play with his arm and his legs. Randall Cunningham - See above, the father of it all. Favre - I hate him, but I have to put him in here. Warrior. Elway - perhaps one of the greatest atheletes ever in the NFL, even though his career started out just like your hated Manning. I love how he refused to go to NE if they drafted him, but went to Denver and now he's a hero and no one's upset about the hold out. McNair - does anyone else give THAT much for his team? Danny Weurffel - Able to perfectly execute Steve Spurriers offense even though he lacked arm strength. Easy induction into the HoF.

08-08-2004, 06:48 PM	#6
arrington_QBkiller Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 72	Vick has only started 21 games in 3 seasons, he can't possibly be on the list 1. Joe Montana - best ever 2.. Dan Marino - made every play with his arm, don't believe I ever saw him roll out of the Pocket 3. John Elway - very Montanalike, wish he was still playing 4. Jim Kelly - very underrated, would he be on top if he had won a superbowl? 5. Brett Favre - he'll never hang it up Thought about putting Aikman up there, as a Redskins fan I couldn't bring myself to do it

08-08-2004, 07:26 PM	#9
regulus881 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	new here ... in no order montana young elway favre marino 1. how can you say favre is just good? he's amazing. privilege to watch him. 2. cunningham was good. that's it. 3. favre, manning, mcnair, brady, culpepper, and mcnabb are currently the top qbs. pennington is really close since he doesn't have that many seaons under is belt. also creeping in is hasselback. 4. vick cannot be metioned at all. exciting to watch? yes, but he hasn't even played two full seaons yet. 5. how can no one mention young? 6. sims, fouts, aikman and kelly round out the top 9. sorry, can't think of one more qb off the top of my head.

08-08-2004, 07:37 PM	#10
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	regulus, good to hear from you, nice first post __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-08-2004, 07:39 PM	#11
regulus881 Camp Scrub Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2	thanks smootsmack... been reading stuff here for quite some time, just never posted. much better than hailredskins.com, that is for sure. i thank my friend DaSeal for showing me the light.

08-08-2004, 08:11 PM	#12
Winskins Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Wheaton, MD Age: 40 Posts: 282	Hey guys! Good posts so far. I can agree that all the quarterbacks mentioned above are excellent. However, I believe the greatest quarterback that I have ever seen is Joe Montana, who many refer to as "Joe Cool". He didn't have a lot of the physical tools that a lot of other quarterbacks had, like the cannon arm, great speed, or a towering stature, but he had all the intangibles. Montana was a winner. In his career, he had 31 fourth quarter come back victories. He won all 4 Superbowls that he went to. He won 3 Superbowl MVP's, more than any other player in NFL history. In his Superbowl games, he completed 83-122 passes for 1,142 yards with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions. His QB rating was 127.8. He was unflappable under pressure. Sure, he had great receivers, but so do many other QB's, the difference was in Joe's demeanor. He electrified the huddle when he entered it. His coolness was always present even in the roughest of situations. During a huddle in the 1989 Superbowl vs. the Bengals, with the 49'ers down by 3 and 3:20 on the clock Joe spotted something. Not something special about the defense, but rather he pointed to the stands and said "isn't that John Candy." Afterwards, he continued to lead the 49'ers 92 yards, throwing the winning touchdown with 34 seconds remaining. So, some quarterbakcs I have seen are very good, but only one has been great and that was Joe Cool. His ability to win under pressure has been unparalleled over the past 20 years. __________________ The Skins will make the Cowboys their woman...and they're gonna enjoy it!

08-08-2004, 08:31 PM	#13
skin4Life28 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 38 Posts: 447	Sammy Baugh Sonny Jergensen Joe Thiesman Doug Williams Mark Rypien I cant think of anything better!

08-08-2004, 08:47 PM	#14
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Sammy Baugh been within 25 years? =p I feel Vick deserves the list. Name one QB that threatens defensive coordinators now days, sure he hasn't been consistant. However he has arm strength, accuracy, and moves that are simply mind boggling. Provided his career lasts 7+ years he'll be recognized as one of the greatest. I feel he does more with nothing than a lot of the other QBs mentioned. I don't feel brady deserves to make the list. That's like putting Jake DelHomme on there. Reg - Cunningham was more than "good" man. Dude was a beast!

08-08-2004, 10:23 PM	#15
huntz Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 67 Posts: 311	Weuffel is like that bad four-letter word you never want to say, and would feel the shame if you said it in a croud.

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