Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work?

CPAlltheWay012 · 01-26-2008, 01:05 AM

the title is self-explanatory...

Actions up to this point (to me) almost make it appear that they are trying to get rid of what Gibbs instilled..

For instance, the hiring of Zorn immediately suggests a disconnect from Al Saunders.. Gibbs brought Al Saunders to Washington in hopes of producing a successful offense... IT SHOWED... look at the last 4 games of this season.. sure you can make the argument of inspired football and what not, however, its obvious with the introduction of a figure with experience (Todd Collins) this can be a top offense in the NFL as it WAS during that final stretch.. so main point: Why do you get rid of the main man in charge of the scheme: Al Saunders? .. Gibbs brought him for a reason..and we saw why at the end..

Gregg Williams is another example. It has been reported now that he is no longer in the running as head coach.. So does this comfirm the Redskins are going outside their organization for the job? Upon his arrival, Gibbs made severe roster changes and moves to start rebuilding.. who's to say that a new coach won't try the same thing? Now, there's the possibility Williams might leave, another member of the Redskins who came here for Gibbs.

Imagine: Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, and Gregg Williams all leaving? What happened to progress and development we were going to continue with?

Yellow31 · 01-26-2008, 01:08 AM

head hurting, can't take it anymore.......this is supposed to be fun!...going to bed!

The Gremlin · 01-26-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CPAlltheWay012

Imagine: Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, and Gregg Williams all leaving? What happened to progress and development we were going to continue with?

Man im still shocked by this. I dont understand. At Gibbs Press Conference Snyder speaked of "continuity" and I dont see how these possible acts can be "continuity". Im scared that with a possible all new staff that a playoff team with rising expectations for 2008 might now be rebuilding.

DynamiteRave · 01-26-2008, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gremlin

Man im still shocked by this. I dont understand. At Gibbs Press Conference Snyder speaked of "continuity" and I dont see how these possible acts can be "continuity". Im scared that with a possible all new staff that a playoff team with rising expectations for 2008 might now be rebuilding.

He was just telling us what we wanted to hear.. He gave us the bait and we took it. Hook, line and sinker.

SFREDSKIN · 01-26-2008, 01:25 AM

The thing that really hurts is, that I thought this team became a family after everything it endured and the way they pulled together, only to be destroyed by who knows why. We were so close to getting to a SB next year and now who knows what the future holds now, so far it doesn't look promising.

GusFrerotte · 01-26-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

The thing that really hurts is, that I thought this team became a family after everything it endured and the way they pulled together, only to be destroyed by who knows why. We were so close to getting to a SB next year and now who knows what the future holds now, so far it doesn't look promising.

Snyder is a business man, not a football man. Look at us here in Detroit with the Fords. They never really knew football, just wanted to be hip owning a sports franchise. Now their car company is going down the tubes. Anybody with season tickets has to feel like a total ass right now. Unless he does get Cowher or asks Marty to comeback, I don't give much stock in a playoff run next season. We might lose some FA's also because of this!!!!!!

The Gremlin · 01-26-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He was just telling us what we wanted to hear.. He gave us the bait and we took it. Hook, line and sinker.

lol. You summed this up perfect. This is exactly how it feels. Great post HTTR.

redsk1 · 01-26-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He was just telling us what we wanted to hear.. He gave us the bait and we took it. Hook, line and sinker.

Yep, a bunch of BS. I don't believe anything DS or VC say right about now.

724Skinsfan · 01-26-2008, 10:11 AM

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Yep, a bunch of BS. I don't believe anything DS or VC say right about now.

What exactly has Dan Snyder or Vinnie Cerrato said at any time during the last 17 days regarding the interview process? I've heard the media say quite a bit about some rumor that was overheard by an assistant to a friend who's cousin bought a Joe Gibbs hat at the tent sale yesterday.

Right now, unless I've missed something, the only facts are that Gibbs resigned and we've hired Zorn as our OC. Everything else is assumption brought about by the frustration of not having anything to report.

SmootSmack · 01-26-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

What exactly has Dan Snyder or Vinnie Cerrato said at any time during the last 17 days regarding the interview process? I've heard the media say quite a bit about some rumor that was overheard by an assistant to a friend who's cousin bought a Joe Gibbs hat at the tent sale yesterday.

Right now, unless I've missed something, the only facts are that Gibbs resigned and we've hired Zorn as our OC. Everything else is assumption brought about by the frustration of not having anything to report.

Some sanity! So hard to find these days

Skinnette · 01-26-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

He was just telling us what we wanted to hear.. He gave us the bait and we took it. Hook, line and sinker.

I agree. He knew he was going to rip it apart. How does he ever expect to win if he keeps tearing down and rebuilding from scratch. If they haven't started yet, the players need to start updating their resumes.

AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace · 01-26-2008, 01:23 AM

at this point...the answer is "yes"

Here we go Fightin' Vinny's!!!

SmootSmack · 01-26-2008, 01:35 AM

I think things might (would?) be significantly different had Gibbs remained as President-following his head coaching stint -as he had originally planned before family priorities changed his course.

What's unfortunate is that this is the second time in his storied career that Gibbs has been unable to successfully pass the torch and establish a "Gibbs Tree"

Skinny Tee · 01-26-2008, 07:28 AM

If I was Gregg Williams I would have withdrawn my name from consideration when they tried to pull the trigger on that new coaching staff but were unsuccessful because the ravens blocked the lateral move of Ryan.

I applaud Gregg removing his name from consideration. He at least is professional enough to know when to move on and save face from a bad situation.

QBall · 01-28-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

If I was Gregg Williams I would have withdrawn my name from consideration when they tried to pull the trigger on that new coaching staff but were unsuccessful because the ravens blocked the lateral move of Ryan.

I applaud Gregg removing his name from consideration. He at least is professional enough to know when to move on and save face from a bad situation.

He was fired either way.

01-26-2008, 01:05 AM	#1
CPAlltheWay012 Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: B-Town Posts: 166	Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? the title is self-explanatory... Actions up to this point (to me) almost make it appear that they are trying to get rid of what Gibbs instilled.. For instance, the hiring of Zorn immediately suggests a disconnect from Al Saunders.. Gibbs brought Al Saunders to Washington in hopes of producing a successful offense... IT SHOWED... look at the last 4 games of this season.. sure you can make the argument of inspired football and what not, however, its obvious with the introduction of a figure with experience (Todd Collins) this can be a top offense in the NFL as it WAS during that final stretch.. so main point: Why do you get rid of the main man in charge of the scheme: Al Saunders? .. Gibbs brought him for a reason..and we saw why at the end.. Gregg Williams is another example. It has been reported now that he is no longer in the running as head coach.. So does this comfirm the Redskins are going outside their organization for the job? Upon his arrival, Gibbs made severe roster changes and moves to start rebuilding.. who's to say that a new coach won't try the same thing? Now, there's the possibility Williams might leave, another member of the Redskins who came here for Gibbs. Imagine: Joe Gibbs, Al Saunders, and Gregg Williams all leaving? What happened to progress and development we were going to continue with?

01-26-2008, 01:08 AM	#2
Yellow31 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 125	Re: Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? head hurting, can't take it anymore.......this is supposed to be fun!...going to bed!

01-26-2008, 01:25 AM	#5
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? The thing that really hurts is, that I thought this team became a family after everything it endured and the way they pulled together, only to be destroyed by who knows why. We were so close to getting to a SB next year and now who knows what the future holds now, so far it doesn't look promising. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-26-2008, 01:23 AM	#12
AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Fayetteville, NC Age: 39 Posts: 896	Re: Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? at this point...the answer is "yes" Here we go Fightin' Vinny's!!!

01-26-2008, 01:35 AM	#13
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? I think things might (would?) be significantly different had Gibbs remained as President-following his head coaching stint -as he had originally planned before family priorities changed his course. What's unfortunate is that this is the second time in his storied career that Gibbs has been unable to successfully pass the torch and establish a "Gibbs Tree" __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-26-2008, 07:28 AM	#14
Skinny Tee The Starter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Redskins Nation Posts: 1,715	Re: Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work? If I was Gregg Williams I would have withdrawn my name from consideration when they tried to pull the trigger on that new coaching staff but were unsuccessful because the ravens blocked the lateral move of Ryan. I applaud Gregg removing his name from consideration. He at least is professional enough to know when to move on and save face from a bad situation. __________________ Redskinsly, _________Skinny Tee_________

Does anyone feel as if the Redskins Organization is dismantling Joe Gibb's work?

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