After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel

Paintrain · 02-01-2008, 10:40 PM

Skins, Mariucci meet: The Redskins have talked to NFL Network analyst Steve Mariucci about their head coaching job, but don't expect him to get the offer. Everything seems to be the same. Jim Fassel is the leading candidate and should get the job next week.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...2=stateChanged

As stated, I'm cool with either one, just passing along info for everyone to discuss.

redskinz79 · 02-01-2008, 10:57 PM

Does this make any sense?

What does Fassel bring to the table for the Redskins?

Campbell17 · 02-02-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinz79

Does this make any sense?

What does Fassel bring to the table for the Redskins?

I dont get it either. It doesnt make sense. By the way do you really live in Korea, because I have wanted to travel there for some time.

Defensewins · 02-02-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by redskinz79

Does this make any sense?

What does Fassel bring to the table for the Redskins?

Fassel is a coach desperate for a HC job in the NFL. What he brings to Snyderato is a coach that will bend to all their demands, which is what they are lookng for.
IMO Gregg Williams was removed from consideration because he did not agee with what Snyer wanted. He wanted to run his own ship. Which is what any good HC candiate would want. I still believe the main sticking points between Williams and Snyer was GM, William does not like Cerrato and who would be offensive coordinator.
We will see what ends up happening. Maybe Snyder will build a Superbowl contender. But as long as Snyder and Cerratto call all the shots, I say it is unlikely.

BaltimoreSkins · 02-02-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by redskinz79

Does this make any sense?

What does Fassel bring to the table for the Redskins?

How about a coach our owner trusts? This was Snyder's guy four years ago. Snyder obviously likes the guy and thinks he can get the job done. I for one would rather have a head coach that the owner will trust making decisions instead of a head coach whose hands are tied.

Luxorreb · 02-02-2008, 12:38 AM

If Fassel gets the job I'll spend all day booing the Washington Redskins.

Campbell17 · 02-02-2008, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Luxorreb

If Fassel gets the job I'll spend all day booing the Washington Redskins.

Same here, Im gonna become a Browns fan!

Dirtbag59 · 02-02-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Campbell17

Same here, Im gonna become a Browns fan!

I'll root for the Raiders!!! Actually I won't mind Fassal but I really want Mooch to lead the Redskins.

Luxorreb · 02-02-2008, 01:04 AM

Really people!?!?!?!

What does Fassel bring to the table?
Being a teflon don? Just no other reason.

Is there?

Dirtbag59 · 02-02-2008, 01:10 AM

That does it. I'm going to start a thread on who people are going to root for if the Redskins hire Mooch. Right after I make a bring back Ramsey thread.

SBXVII · 02-02-2008, 02:29 AM

Ok back when all this started....or rather when GW and AS were let go the names on the list were Fossil, Spag, Meeks, and Cowher. Maybe I missed a name, but I kept looking at the list of names and asking myself what does each bring to the table. I like Cowher alot but he does not want to come back so that leaves him out. Next:

I thought about Meeks....who is a Defensive coach....would he have the same phylosophy as Blache? do they run the same type of defense because if not then your going to get friction. Next:

Then I thought Spag....well ....not a bad choice but isn't this his first yr at being a OC? Then your going to make him a HC? Next:

Where am I...Oh yea Fossil....out of all those I like this idea best. Someone who has been around awhile and who is older then his players. He may have very good leadership qualities. I voted him. My question kept coming up though "if he is an Offensive coach does he understand the WC and has he run it before? I would hate to have a HC that has not been in the WC before and has no clue. The mill $ question is...is Fossil a WC coach? because if not then all he is..is a figure head. Someone to lead the team but not call plays. He will be a glorified motivational speaker. Because the OC and DC has already been picked this pick seems to be the best choice. Next:

Then the Mooch is named. I'm not fond of either Mooch or Fossil but you have to admit that Mooch fits better. He would get a good pay day. lol. He's more personable. He knows the WC offense and has been a coach in it for yrs. Since the defense is going to essentially remain the same and the offense is going to take the big makeover then it would be wise to get an offensive WC type coach to help teach the WC style offense to the players. Plus we would have two very great coach's to teach JC...Zorn taught Hasselhoff and Mooch taught Flavor Flave.

It all seems to fit with Mooch. Fossil does not seem to fit other then to revive his career and hope the team does well so he looks good in the future. If he tanks he can't say he didn't try. Now theres word that Fossil is the MAN. The only reason I can see Fossil being the man is because he's crying foul and Danny knows that he does not hire Fossil this time he has burned his bridge for any future thought of him being the HC of the Skins. Where as if he hires Fossil and he is a dud he can always go after Mooch or Cowher or overhaul again with Meeks or Spag. In other words you can't give a coach two interviews for the same job years apart and turn him down both times and have him say "Hey if you ever need me I'm your man, Danny Boy." This being said Fossil will be the man even though I don't like it. I hope People continue supporting the team but maybe show are dislike toward Fossil by constantly booing him on game day. Perhaps hurt DS in the pocket book by not purchasing new Skins gear. Maybe....Maybe for one game possibly the first seasonal game no one watch it on tv. Low ratings would send a message. Something the reporters could speak about.

Can Fossil lead us to a SB. who knows. but I sure as hell can't find anywhere on the net where it says he is a WC type HC. Nothing to make me go oh....he will be great for the job he know the WC. Oh he also learned under Walch in SF so he can add some credibility to the offense. Unless I'm wrong and someone can find somewhere on the net where Fossil is a WC type coach then I have to lean considerably towards Mooch and if Fossil is hired then wonder why?

Daseal · 02-02-2008, 03:11 AM

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Then I thought Spag....well ....not a bad choice but isn't this his first yr at being a OC? Then your going to make him a HC? Next:

Spag is their D coordinator.

While I think I'd slightly prefer Mooch, Fossil won't be that terrible. I'm not sold that Mooch is totally out of the picture (just like I thought GW was still the head man the day he was fired...). NFL radio said that sources around the league said Mooch was talking to his ex-assistants around the league and asking what they were doing now and if they'd be interested in rejoining him.

SBXVII · 02-02-2008, 03:30 AM

my bad your right Spag is a DC. but it goes right back to ...is his D similar or a whole lot different then Blache's? I could see friction about mid season if the D is struggling. Atleast if you pick Mooch both Zorn and Mooch would have for the most part the same ideas. If Fossil gets picked what happens when the O is struggling. Will Fossil try to incorporate his offensive ideas? Though it might be for the better of the team I could see friction with Zorn if their ideas are not similar.

Oakland Red · 02-02-2008, 03:46 AM

Steve Mariucci is really the only hope that Dan Snyder has of salvaging this disastrous tearing up of the coaching structure. Mariucci has the ability to inspire the team and the fans, and Jim Fassel has not to my eyes shown himself to be inspirational, whatever qualities that he does have.

After all of this chaos, to announce that Jim Fassel is the new head coach - whose reputation is going to sink next year when we can't suddenly turn into the Bill Walsh 49ers with the "West Coast Offense?" Are fans going to be patient? Will the players lose respect for the organization? Dan Snyder is really risking a terrible rupture between the fans and his administration of the team.

If Dan Snyder at least hires Steve Mariucci, there will be someone there who can keep the train on the track, keep hope for a bright future for the team alive, and keep everyone's minds to a larger degree off the mismanagement of the team by the owner.

Chief X_Phackter · 02-02-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Oakland Red

Steve Mariucci is really the only hope that Dan Snyder has of salvaging this disastrous tearing up of the coaching structure. Mariucci has the ability to inspire the team and the fans, and Jim Fassel has not to my eyes shown himself to be inspirational, whatever qualities that he does have.

After all of this chaos, to announce that Jim Fassel is the new head coach - whose reputation is going to sink next year when we can't suddenly turn into the Bill Walsh 49ers with the "West Coast Offense?" Are fans going to be patient? Will the players lose respect for the organization? Dan Snyder is really risking a terrible rupture between the fans and his administration of the team.

If Dan Snyder at least hires Steve Mariucci, there will be someone there who can keep the train on the track, keep hope for a bright future for the team alive, and keep everyone's minds to a larger degree off the mismanagement of the team by the owner.

So now Mariucci is our only hope? Please....what has he done as a head coach to warrant a comment like that?

I'm curious, what did you expect to happen when Gibbs resigned? Did you think nothing would change? A coordinator would step right in and keep the status quo? I'm sorry but changes were inevitable, and I think Snyder is making the best of a situation he wasn't prepared to face this offseason.

Chaos? I don't see chaos. I see a methodical approach to do what's best for the team, and I believe they'll be even better next year.

02-01-2008, 10:40 PM	#1
Paintrain Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Age: 54 Posts: 5,006	After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel Skins, Mariucci meet: The Redskins have talked to NFL Network analyst Steve Mariucci about their head coaching job, but don't expect him to get the offer. Everything seems to be the same. Jim Fassel is the leading candidate and should get the job next week. http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog...2=stateChanged As stated, I'm cool with either one, just passing along info for everyone to discuss. __________________ Paintrain's Redskins Fandom 1981-2014 I'm not dead but this team is dead to me...but now that McCloughan is here they may have new life! Jay Gruden = Zorny McSpurrier Kirk Cousins = Next Grossman

02-01-2008, 10:57 PM	#2
redskinz79 Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seoul, Korea Age: 45 Posts: 76	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel Does this make any sense? What does Fassel bring to the table for the Redskins?

02-02-2008, 12:38 AM	#6
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel If Fassel gets the job I'll spend all day booing the Washington Redskins. __________________ ^21^

02-02-2008, 01:04 AM	#9
Luxorreb ^21^ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, Virginia Age: 52 Posts: 1,630	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel Really people!?!?!?! What does Fassel bring to the table? Being a teflon don? Just no other reason. Is there? __________________ ^21^

02-02-2008, 01:10 AM	#10
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 39 Posts: 14,750	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel That does it. I'm going to start a thread on who people are going to root for if the Redskins hire Mooch. Right after I make a bring back Ramsey thread. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

02-02-2008, 02:29 AM	#11
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel Ok back when all this started....or rather when GW and AS were let go the names on the list were Fossil, Spag, Meeks, and Cowher. Maybe I missed a name, but I kept looking at the list of names and asking myself what does each bring to the table. I like Cowher alot but he does not want to come back so that leaves him out. Next: I thought about Meeks....who is a Defensive coach....would he have the same phylosophy as Blache? do they run the same type of defense because if not then your going to get friction. Next: Then I thought Spag....well ....not a bad choice but isn't this his first yr at being a OC? Then your going to make him a HC? Next: Where am I...Oh yea Fossil....out of all those I like this idea best. Someone who has been around awhile and who is older then his players. He may have very good leadership qualities. I voted him. My question kept coming up though "if he is an Offensive coach does he understand the WC and has he run it before? I would hate to have a HC that has not been in the WC before and has no clue. The mill $ question is...is Fossil a WC coach? because if not then all he is..is a figure head. Someone to lead the team but not call plays. He will be a glorified motivational speaker. Because the OC and DC has already been picked this pick seems to be the best choice. Next: Then the Mooch is named. I'm not fond of either Mooch or Fossil but you have to admit that Mooch fits better. He would get a good pay day. lol. He's more personable. He knows the WC offense and has been a coach in it for yrs. Since the defense is going to essentially remain the same and the offense is going to take the big makeover then it would be wise to get an offensive WC type coach to help teach the WC style offense to the players. Plus we would have two very great coach's to teach JC...Zorn taught Hasselhoff and Mooch taught Flavor Flave. It all seems to fit with Mooch. Fossil does not seem to fit other then to revive his career and hope the team does well so he looks good in the future. If he tanks he can't say he didn't try. Now theres word that Fossil is the MAN. The only reason I can see Fossil being the man is because he's crying foul and Danny knows that he does not hire Fossil this time he has burned his bridge for any future thought of him being the HC of the Skins. Where as if he hires Fossil and he is a dud he can always go after Mooch or Cowher or overhaul again with Meeks or Spag. In other words you can't give a coach two interviews for the same job years apart and turn him down both times and have him say "Hey if you ever need me I'm your man, Danny Boy." This being said Fossil will be the man even though I don't like it. I hope People continue supporting the team but maybe show are dislike toward Fossil by constantly booing him on game day. Perhaps hurt DS in the pocket book by not purchasing new Skins gear. Maybe....Maybe for one game possibly the first seasonal game no one watch it on tv. Low ratings would send a message. Something the reporters could speak about. Can Fossil lead us to a SB. who knows. but I sure as hell can't find anywhere on the net where it says he is a WC type HC. Nothing to make me go oh....he will be great for the job he know the WC. Oh he also learned under Walch in SF so he can add some credibility to the offense. Unless I'm wrong and someone can find somewhere on the net where Fossil is a WC type coach then I have to lean considerably towards Mooch and if Fossil is hired then wonder why?

02-02-2008, 03:30 AM	#13
SBXVII Franchise Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,766	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel my bad your right Spag is a DC. but it goes right back to ...is his D similar or a whole lot different then Blache's? I could see friction about mid season if the D is struggling. Atleast if you pick Mooch both Zorn and Mooch would have for the most part the same ideas. If Fossil gets picked what happens when the O is struggling. Will Fossil try to incorporate his offensive ideas? Though it might be for the better of the team I could see friction with Zorn if their ideas are not similar.

02-02-2008, 03:46 AM	#14
Oakland Red Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oakland, Calif. Posts: 268	Re: After Mooch interview, John Clayton still predicts Fassel Steve Mariucci is really the only hope that Dan Snyder has of salvaging this disastrous tearing up of the coaching structure. Mariucci has the ability to inspire the team and the fans, and Jim Fassel has not to my eyes shown himself to be inspirational, whatever qualities that he does have. After all of this chaos, to announce that Jim Fassel is the new head coach - whose reputation is going to sink next year when we can't suddenly turn into the Bill Walsh 49ers with the "West Coast Offense?" Are fans going to be patient? Will the players lose respect for the organization? Dan Snyder is really risking a terrible rupture between the fans and his administration of the team. If Dan Snyder at least hires Steve Mariucci, there will be someone there who can keep the train on the track, keep hope for a bright future for the team alive, and keep everyone's minds to a larger degree off the mismanagement of the team by the owner.

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