# 21 draft pick

[QBall]

Its clear to me after last nights monster defensive battle that Defense wins SuperBowls. Brady was abused all night by Tuck, Strahan, and Co.

#1 scoring offense got bitch slapped by NFC East football.

We need to draft a Defensive End to replace Daniels. He's over the hill and should not start in 08'.

[GridIron26]

Well, after watching NYG d-line; I have to say I'm tempting to say same thing but a good DE can be plucked out from 2nd or 3rd rd too.. Or even lower.. I wonder what number Justin Tuck was.. To tell you truth, I doubt we would draft a DE at 1st rd.. If we are going to draft a defense player - it will be a corner.. I read an article about Blache's philosophy, and he said that he wants good CBs so he can do whenever he wants.. So..

[Schneed10]

One thing that's getting overlooked about this Super Bowl win by the Giants is how badly they shut down Maroney. That D line doesn't just rush the passer, they stuff the run on the edges.

That is Daniels' strength.

I do agree that we need a better rush off the edge in 2008, especially since Blache is not as likely to blitz as often as GW did. But we must not forget that any replacement for Daniels needs to play the run equally well, while also representing an upgrade as a pass rusher.

[Eknox]

guy's don't forget our secondary needs some help also, I heard Rogers might not be ready next year

[SmootSmack]

Good point Schneed.

And good point Grid. Strahan and Osi were 2nd round picks, Tuck 3rd

[QBall]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Good point Schneed.

And good point Grid. Strahan and Osi were 2nd round picks, Tuck 3rd

Any position has hidden gems in late rounds. You take best available defensive lineman at # 21 how do you go wrong?

We still have Smoot and Springs with Landry and the best white safety since Edwards is looking pretty good back there. Rogers should be back as well.

I do think we need a CB on the first day but pass rush helps out so much and adding onto Carter's sucess is key this offseason.

[RobH4413]

You're probably going to get jumped on for this Q...

We've probably got a couple of open threads already about this. Try using your USER CP - SEARCH tool and type in draft or something like that. Anyways, I'm not going to hate...

There's been a great deal of talk around here about drafting a DE, and you can't help but see how much disrupting an offenses' timing is important to winning football games. The Giants D-Line was epic last night, and I would be a liar if I said, "Draft a stud defensive end!!!!", didn't echo inside my head all night last night.

I can say that if there is a stud DE out there @ 21... I'd pull the trigger. Aside from that... I'm a particular believer in the philosophy that you need to establish both lines to be a dominant team. Whether it means drafting the best DT, DE, or OL available... It has to be the line.

Given our record in turning late round lineman into starting material, maybe our best bet in the long run would be to trade some players away for draft picks if that option is available.

Lot's to discuss. I'm excited.

[Coff]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

You're probably going to get jumped on for this Q...

We've probably got a couple of open threads already about this. Try using your USER CP - SEARCH tool and type in draft or something like that. Anyways, I'm not going to hate...

There's been a great deal of talk around here about drafting a DE, and you can't help but see how much disrupting an offenses' timing is important to winning football games. The Giants D-Line was epic last night, and I would be a liar if I said, "Draft a stud defensive end!!!!", didn't echo inside my head all night last night.

I can say that if there is a stud DE out there @ 21... I'd pull the trigger. Aside from that... I'm a particular believer in the philosophy that you need to establish both lines to be a dominant team. Whether it means drafting the best DT, DE, or OL available... It has to be the line.

Given our record in turning late round lineman into starting material, maybe our best bet in the long run would be to trade some players away for draft picks if that option is available.

Lot's to discuss. I'm excited.

You make a good point; we shouldn't get too caught up in wanting a DE at the expense of other linemen, especially with the 21st pick in the draft. It is important to note that wanting to draft a stud d-end did not just pop into your head last night, and it did not just pop into the head of every Redskin fan who has been furiously discussing it throughout the day, it in fact popped into the head of every fan of every team that watched the Super Bowl last night. It was one of those instances in which a team's success made everyone suddenly "discover" an old concept as though it was new again. I think it is fair to say that after this Super Bowl, defensive linemen might very well be the most overvalued stock in this year's draft.

I still want one though.

[Soup's Uncle]

We gotta draft D Line, O Line and corners. A big reciever would be nice too...(Ocho Cinco?)

[JoeRedskin]

When you get right down to it - outside of QB, RB and TE, we have "needs" all over the field. At 21, we take the best player available outside the above named positions. If a stud at one of those positions falls - try like hell to trade down. If that fails, stick with the best player outside of those positions.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

When you get right down to it - outside of QB, RB and TE, we have "needs" all over the field. At 21, we take the best player available outside the above named positions. If a stud at one of those positions falls - try like hell to trade down. If that fails, stick with the best player outside of those positions.

actually Joe, we've needed a young backup qb for a few years & if Collins leaves & we cut Brunell (a good possibility) we'll really need a qb. I think it'd be worth a 4th round pick or lower to develop long term & sign a vet as the #2.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

actually Joe, we've needed a young backup qb for a few years & if Collins leaves & we cut Brunell (a good possibility) we'll really need a qb. I think it'd be worth a 4th round pick or lower to develop long term & sign a vet as the #2.

I agree. But I thought we were talking about what to do with our 1st round pick.

If a stud qb falls to us (not sure who that would be at this point), say this year's Aaron Rodgers - would you want to spend our first rounder on a young back-up qb?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I agree. But I thought we were talking about what to do with our 1st round pick.

If a stud qb falls to us (not sure who that would be at this point), say this year's Aaron Rodgers - would you want to spend our first rounder on a young back-up qb?

point taken, my bad for getting off topic. To answer the ?, I'd say definitely no. But going back to your original post, I'd agree that there are several positions that we could justify as our #1 pick. I wouldn't be upset if they drafted a wr, cb, ol,dl, or maybe even safety. Out of those positions they could nab whoever they feel is the best available & it would make sense.

[Big C]

thread starter has a point, but when u look closer the 3 DE's of the giants (tuck, strahan, umenyora) none were first round picks, 2 were 2nd 1 was 3rd. their 1st round DE kiwanuka isnt at their level at all imo. lets pick up a de in round 2 or 3 and go cb first

[QBall]

Originally Posted by Big C

thread starter has a point, but when u look closer the 3 DE's of the giants (tuck, strahan, umenyora) none were first round picks, 2 were 2nd 1 was 3rd. their 1st round DE kiwanuka isnt at their level at all imo. lets pick up a de in round 2 or 3 and go cb first

So pass up a great 1st rounder b/c Giants starters were found late? Ok that's not logical.