Backup center discussion

MTK · 06-09-2008, 10:21 AM

There was an article in the WaPo last week that stated Jansen has been taking snaps at center and as of right now he would be the #2 guy if Rabach went down. Anyone else have a problem with this? I really hope that's not the plan for the season. There's gotta be a guy out there that would be serviceable enough as a backup center. I wonder what happened with the plans to work in Reinhart at center.

J. Spanky · 06-09-2008, 10:28 AM

yeah, that's not a good look at all. we really need to find somebody.

apparently lecharles bentley is taking a physical today. the browns don't need him though. plus this is the final year of his contract and he hasn't done a thing for them. so hopefully he'll get cut (or least shopped) and we can go after him.

redskinsskickazz · 06-09-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Spanky

yeah, that's not a good look at all. we really need to find somebody.

apparently lecharles bentley is taking a physical today. the browns don't need him though. plus this is the final year of his contract and he hasn't done a thing for them. so hopefully he'll get cut (or least shopped) and we can go after him.

didnt they just sign him like two years ago to a huge deal and then he went down for the year with a knee injury.
How is he already on the last year of that contract.

SmootSmack · 06-09-2008, 10:34 AM

Cerrato said last week that he doesn't anticipate Rhinehart getting time at Center in the immediate future, but that Crummey would be getting a look there.

Schneed10 · 06-09-2008, 10:48 AM

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Cerrato said last week that he doesn't anticipate Rhinehart getting time at Center in the immediate future, but that Crummey would be getting a look there.

That would be a situation equally crappy to having Jansen be the backup. I trust Buges when it comes to identifying talent along the offensive line for the long term, but Crummey's still an undrafted rookie who's natural position is not C.

Jansen as the back-up center makes me nervous. It reminds me of the attempt to move Todd Wade to G. It just feels like square peg in a round hole. I don't care how many snaps Jansen took at C in college, it's different in the pros.

I definitely have my fingers crossed when it comes to Rabach's health this season.

GridIron26 · 06-09-2008, 11:17 AM

I read the article few days ago; I don't think it looks good for us.. However his size may help other O-line men since he is pretty big and he could push some D-line men around.. But this definitely does not look good, and I wonder why we did not go after any free agent Cs or even undrafted rookies?

KLHJ2 · 06-09-2008, 11:22 AM

I think that you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. How hard is it to slam the ball into your taint before you engage in a block?

GridIron26 · 06-09-2008, 11:43 AM

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I think that you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. How hard is it to slam the ball into your taint before you engage in a block?

It is pretty big deal, Center is basically the QB of O-line.. You would have to read the D-line and even anything that would hint blitz then you would have to tell ur sides to watch our for them.. Once you snap the ball, u have to make sure u put it in right place (Like Matty mentioned, especially during the shotgun formula)..

BDBohnzie · 06-09-2008, 02:51 PM

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I think that you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. How hard is it to slam the ball into your taint before you engage in a block?

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It's still too early to worry about this. If we're into the 3rd Preseason game with no C backup that isn't named Jon Jansen, then you worry. But I have the impression that Buges is doing this because the Skins did not get him the depth he needs to go into Training Camp...

Schneed10 · 06-09-2008, 03:27 PM

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It's still too early to worry about this. If we're into the 3rd Preseason game with no C backup that isn't named Jon Jansen, then you worry. But I have the impression that Buges is doing this because the Skins did not get him the depth he needs to go into Training Camp...

Then by that logic, until the backup C situation changes, we have reason to be worried about it for the start of the season.

firstdown · 06-09-2008, 04:07 PM

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It's still too early to worry about this. If we're into the 3rd Preseason game with no C backup that isn't named Jon Jansen, then you worry. But I have the impression that Buges is doing this because the Skins did not get him the depth he needs to go into Training Camp...

Well on the Riggo show Buges was very happy with the line and with its depth. I'm still thinking we end up with a backup center on the pratice sq. and Jansen would only take the center job if an injury occured durn a game. Heck it coud be they want someone ready if a back up center was to get injured. Just about all positions you have a plain A, B and C with Jon as plan C. I'm sure after June cuts there will be a few decent centers looking for work.

Schneed10 · 06-09-2008, 04:13 PM

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Well on the Riggo show Buges was very happy with the line and with its depth. I'm still thinking we end up with a backup center on the pratice sq. and Jansen would only take the center job if an injury occured durn a game. Heck it coud be they want someone ready if a back up center was to get injured. Just about all positions you have a plain A, B and C with Jon as plan C. I'm sure after June cuts there will be a few decent centers looking for work.

Yeah but I've never seen Buges every say something bad about his line, ever. He's always 100% supportive of them. Can't say it means a lot.

GoSkins! · 06-10-2008, 11:36 AM

I think that right now the reasoning behind moving Jansen to center would be that we could do that, substitute Heyer or Wade at tackle and still have 5 guys with starting experience, for the Redskins playing, on the o-line.

Bugel knows what help Heyer and Wade need when they are in because of last year. He sees the best o-line talent at the tackle position (Jansen, Wade, Heyer, Fabini, Reinhart). Looks like he wants to spend all Reinharts time being developed for guard, Jansen is the best option at this time. Plus Jansen is stuck here for a whilewith his salary and if his abailties fall off at tackle, he needs to be able to contribute as a "super-backup" at multiple positions.

I still say we sign a back-up center before the season starts.

Dirtbag59 · 07-23-2008, 04:04 PM

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I think that you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. How hard is it to slam the ball into your taint before you engage in a block?

It's a pain in the butt. Plus it feels weird. The only advantage is never getting called for a false start.

MTK · 06-09-2008, 11:33 AM

I think the potential problem is with his height. At 6-6 that's really tall for a center and opposing defensive lineman would have an advantage regarding leverage and getting under his pads. He would have to play awfully low. And then there's the potential issue with the shotgun. Snapping in the gun is not an easy thing to do and it's something that requires a lot of practice.

06-09-2008, 10:21 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Backup center discussion There was an article in the WaPo last week that stated Jansen has been taking snaps at center and as of right now he would be the #2 guy if Rabach went down. Anyone else have a problem with this? I really hope that's not the plan for the season. There's gotta be a guy out there that would be serviceable enough as a backup center. I wonder what happened with the plans to work in Reinhart at center. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop Last edited by MTK; 06-09-2008 at 10:23 AM.

06-09-2008, 10:34 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	re: Backup center discussion Cerrato said last week that he doesn't anticipate Rhinehart getting time at Center in the immediate future, but that Crummey would be getting a look there. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

06-09-2008, 11:17 AM	#6
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 3,417	re: Backup center discussion I read the article few days ago; I don't think it looks good for us.. However his size may help other O-line men since he is pretty big and he could push some D-line men around.. But this definitely does not look good, and I wonder why we did not go after any free agent Cs or even undrafted rookies?

06-09-2008, 11:22 AM	#7
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	re: Backup center discussion I think that you guys are making a big deal out of nothing. How hard is it to slam the ball into your taint before you engage in a block?

06-10-2008, 11:36 AM	#13
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	re: Backup center discussion I think that right now the reasoning behind moving Jansen to center would be that we could do that, substitute Heyer or Wade at tackle and still have 5 guys with starting experience, for the Redskins playing, on the o-line. Bugel knows what help Heyer and Wade need when they are in because of last year. He sees the best o-line talent at the tackle position (Jansen, Wade, Heyer, Fabini, Reinhart). Looks like he wants to spend all Reinharts time being developed for guard, Jansen is the best option at this time. Plus Jansen is stuck here for a whilewith his salary and if his abailties fall off at tackle, he needs to be able to contribute as a "super-backup" at multiple positions. I still say we sign a back-up center before the season starts. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

06-09-2008, 10:28 AM	#2
J. Spanky Special Teams Join Date: May 2007 Location: off the grid Posts: 192	re: Backup center discussion yeah, that's not a good look at all. we really need to find somebody. apparently lecharles bentley is taking a physical today. the browns don't need him though. plus this is the final year of his contract and he hasn't done a thing for them. so hopefully he'll get cut (or least shopped) and we can go after him.

06-09-2008, 11:33 AM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	re: Backup center discussion I think the potential problem is with his height. At 6-6 that's really tall for a center and opposing defensive lineman would have an advantage regarding leverage and getting under his pads. He would have to play awfully low. And then there's the potential issue with the shotgun. Snapping in the gun is not an easy thing to do and it's something that requires a lot of practice. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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