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Old 06-10-2008, 02:26 AM   #1
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How is Jim Zorn doing so far?

I think Zorn is acting really calm and professional as a first year coach. He was put in a real tough situation when he made that jump from Washington state to Washington, D.C and from QB coach to head coach. I think he has the potential to win us a few ball games. He has a whole lot of knowledge about the game of football with him being a former NFL QB and all. I just want him to be around for a while.

What do you think?
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:14 AM   #2
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Re: How is Jim Zorn doing so far?

kinda hard to say, professionally I think that he's doing fine, but it doesn't really mean anything yet
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:24 AM   #3
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Re: How is Jim Zorn doing so far?

no one's played a meaningful game yet. it's easy to be optimistic this time of year, but the proof is in how well his efforts pay off in the W/L column.

the first year can be a bit rough, especially with a WCO where there wasn't one before.
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It's GREAT to be Skins fan this time of year!!!
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Re: How is Jim Zorn doing so far?

So far so good I guess, but that's not saying much. We simply don't have enough to go on in order to judge how he's doing.
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So far so good I guess, but that's not saying much. We simply don't have enough to go on in order to judge how he's doing.
I disagree. There are a lot of aspects to being a successful head coach. Let me list a few.

1. Interface with Owner. Zorn has a great respect for Mr. Snyder and seems to be handling this well.
2. Interface with coaches - I've heard a lot of positive things about teamwork and listening. It takes a team of coaches to win. Last year we had great coaches but Sanders and Williams were too experienced and set in their ways to work together.

The coaches respect Zorn for coming in to a playoff team and keeping what was working - including the terminology and focusing on fixing what needed help. This says a lot about Zorn as well as Bugel and Blache

3. Interface with players - Zorn as a former player understands players and is making them work really hard - but in a way where they respect him, they want to win for him. Zorn is the Anti-Parcells. It's much easier to come in and run a military boot camp - than to get players to play hard out of desire. After Lewis left us the defensive players wanted things done a certain way and our D went down since the players were running the D instead of the coaches. Zorn is clearly running the show - but listens to the players and they like him. If he can succeed in getting a quality offense down and listening to the players then it will be hard to beet us.

4. Interface with media - Zorn is creating great positive spirit by always being upbeat, honest and realistic.

5. Thorough planning of off season - he's done a good job with this too.

6. Taking over from Gibbs - taking over from a legend is very hard. In a lot of ways this is still Gibbs team. Zorn has been smart enough to keep what was working and humble enough to only install parts that can be improved. When we win, and I think we will Gibbs gets a lot of the credit as well as Zorn for building on Gibbs instead of breaking down to build up again.

7. X's and O's and play calling. This is where we can't yet judge Zorn. He may be a lousy play caller and he may create lousy plays. But Turner was a scientist - more than a coach and football is won on emotion more than logic. If Zorn's team will play for him hard - even if he calls the wrong plays - he'll win and he'll also learn. Zorn is a rookie and will make rookie mistakes - but we need to give him some time to develop and make those mistakes and learn from them. I think Zorn has demonstrated that he can listen will and learn from experience. And in any case, maybe Zorn will turn out to be a play calling genius as well as a creative guru who makes plays that work. I like what he said about running the same plays while varying who is doing what and switching around receivers and sending portis out on patterns etc... Do you guys have any idea what confusing mess this will create for defenses? They'll need to play more zone than man to man and this will open up the pass game - especially for a WCO.

My prediction is that Zorn is going to make the NFL to like the arena league and we'll resemble the recent Rams (ironically). I think Zorn will be able to pull off what Sanders never was given the chance to try.

My big question is what happens in the rain and snow in December when we need to rely heavily on the run game - can we win key games then???
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:30 PM   #7
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I disagree. There are a lot of aspects to being a successful head coach. Let me list a few.

1. Interface with Owner. Zorn has a great respect for Mr. Snyder and seems to be handling this well.
2. Interface with coaches - I've heard a lot of positive things about teamwork and listening. It takes a team of coaches to win. Last year we had great coaches but Sanders and Williams were too experienced and set in their ways to work together.

The coaches respect Zorn for coming in to a playoff team and keeping what was working - including the terminology and focusing on fixing what needed help. This says a lot about Zorn as well as Bugel and Blache

3. Interface with players - Zorn as a former player understands players and is making them work really hard - but in a way where they respect him, they want to win for him. Zorn is the Anti-Parcells. It's much easier to come in and run a military boot camp - than to get players to play hard out of desire. After Lewis left us the defensive players wanted things done a certain way and our D went down since the players were running the D instead of the coaches. Zorn is clearly running the show - but listens to the players and they like him. If he can succeed in getting a quality offense down and listening to the players then it will be hard to beet us.

4. Interface with media - Zorn is creating great positive spirit by always being upbeat, honest and realistic.

5. Thorough planning of off season - he's done a good job with this too.

6. Taking over from Gibbs - taking over from a legend is very hard. In a lot of ways this is still Gibbs team. Zorn has been smart enough to keep what was working and humble enough to only install parts that can be improved. When we win, and I think we will Gibbs gets a lot of the credit as well as Zorn for building on Gibbs instead of breaking down to build up again.

7. X's and O's and play calling. This is where we can't yet judge Zorn. He may be a lousy play caller and he may create lousy plays. But Turner was a scientist - more than a coach and football is won on emotion more than logic. If Zorn's team will play for him hard - even if he calls the wrong plays - he'll win and he'll also learn. Zorn is a rookie and will make rookie mistakes - but we need to give him some time to develop and make those mistakes and learn from them. I think Zorn has demonstrated that he can listen will and learn from experience. And in any case, maybe Zorn will turn out to be a play calling genius as well as a creative guru who makes plays that work. I like what he said about running the same plays while varying who is doing what and switching around receivers and sending portis out on patterns etc... Do you guys have any idea what confusing mess this will create for defenses? They'll need to play more zone than man to man and this will open up the pass game - especially for a WCO.

My prediction is that Zorn is going to make the NFL to like the arena league and we'll resemble the recent Rams (ironically). I think Zorn will be able to pull off what Sanders never was given the chance to try.

My big question is what happens in the rain and snow in December when we need to rely heavily on the run game - can we win key games then???

I agree with Lady Brave. Dude, your post rocks!

I just don't totally agree with the arena league idea however. More like the Seahaux or old 49ers. Haux beat us twice in the POs in three years.
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I disagree. There are a lot of aspects to being a successful head coach. Let me list a few.

1. Interface with Owner. Zorn has a great respect for Mr. Snyder and seems to be handling this well.
2. Interface with coaches - I've heard a lot of positive things about teamwork and listening. It takes a team of coaches to win. Last year we had great coaches but Sanders and Williams were too experienced and set in their ways to work together.

The coaches respect Zorn for coming in to a playoff team and keeping what was working - including the terminology and focusing on fixing what needed help. This says a lot about Zorn as well as Bugel and Blache

3. Interface with players - Zorn as a former player understands players and is making them work really hard - but in a way where they respect him, they want to win for him. Zorn is the Anti-Parcells. It's much easier to come in and run a military boot camp - than to get players to play hard out of desire. After Lewis left us the defensive players wanted things done a certain way and our D went down since the players were running the D instead of the coaches. Zorn is clearly running the show - but listens to the players and they like him. If he can succeed in getting a quality offense down and listening to the players then it will be hard to beet us.

4. Interface with media - Zorn is creating great positive spirit by always being upbeat, honest and realistic.

5. Thorough planning of off season - he's done a good job with this too.

6. Taking over from Gibbs - taking over from a legend is very hard. In a lot of ways this is still Gibbs team. Zorn has been smart enough to keep what was working and humble enough to only install parts that can be improved. When we win, and I think we will Gibbs gets a lot of the credit as well as Zorn for building on Gibbs instead of breaking down to build up again.

7. X's and O's and play calling. This is where we can't yet judge Zorn. He may be a lousy play caller and he may create lousy plays. But Turner was a scientist - more than a coach and football is won on emotion more than logic. If Zorn's team will play for him hard - even if he calls the wrong plays - he'll win and he'll also learn. Zorn is a rookie and will make rookie mistakes - but we need to give him some time to develop and make those mistakes and learn from them. I think Zorn has demonstrated that he can listen will and learn from experience. And in any case, maybe Zorn will turn out to be a play calling genius as well as a creative guru who makes plays that work. I like what he said about running the same plays while varying who is doing what and switching around receivers and sending portis out on patterns etc... Do you guys have any idea what confusing mess this will create for defenses? They'll need to play more zone than man to man and this will open up the pass game - especially for a WCO.

My prediction is that Zorn is going to make the NFL to like the arena league and we'll resemble the recent Rams (ironically). I think Zorn will be able to pull off what Sanders never was given the chance to try.

My big question is what happens in the rain and snow in December when we need to rely heavily on the run game - can we win key games then???
I get that but in the end all that's going to matter is how the team plays on the field.

I did say so far so good with him, but for me personally I want to at least see some live action before I can say whether he's doing a good job or not.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:01 AM   #9
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It's all about the W & L's.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:03 AM   #10
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I enjoy watching his interviews on Redskins.com ... but I also really liked watching Steve Spurrier's interviews. Let's hope this one turns out a little better.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:17 AM   #11
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Dude is undefeated! He may just be our greatest coach ever!!! All Hail L337 Zorn!!
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He's doing great. We're really encouraged with what we've seen thus far. We're certainly glad he's part of the organization and look forward to a productive year from him.
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He's doing great. We're really encouraged with what we've seen thus far. We're certainly glad he's part of the organization and look forward to a productive year from him.
Maybe you should change the we're and we've to I'm and I've and let everyone post how they feel. LOL
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Maybe you should change the we're and we've to I'm and I've and let everyone post how they feel. LOL

I was speaking for all 724 of us.
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I was speaking for all 724 of us.
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