Al Gore lays down green challenge to America

[MTK]

Former Vice President Al Gore, seeking to shake up an energy debate that is focused mostly on drilling, challenged the United States to shift its entire electricity sector to carbon-free wind, solar and geothermal power within 10 years, and use that power to fuel a new fleet of electric vehicles.

link: Al Gore lays down green challenge to America

[Hog1]

I would have to say to Al............lead by example

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I would have to say to Al............lead by example

So is he announcing that he's painting his private jet green...or one of his houses that use more energy than most towns?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Buster

So is he announcing that he's painting his private jet green...or one of his houses that use more energy than most towns?

You guys are totally right. Let's just ignore this issue because Gore's house uses a lot of energy and keep powering the country with fossil fuels.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

You guys are totally right. Let's just ignore this issue because Gore's house uses a lot of energy and keep powering the country with fossil fuels.

Word. Kind of retarded to discredit Gore on that basis. He's a user of energy just like the rest of us. But more than anything, he's preaching on the SOURCE of the energy to meet our demand, not preaching that we all live in caves.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

You guys are totally right. Let's just ignore this issue because Gore's house uses a lot of energy and keep powering the country with fossil fuels.

Actually, I did not read either in Mr. Buster's post or any of my own the suggestion of ignorance toward Al's platform. As I have stated, I have taken some action, and am in favor of many other "green" actions which I stated earlier.
HOWEVER, I would like for Al to follow his own advice, instead of "do as I say, not as I do".

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Actually, I did not read either in Mr. Buster's post or any of my own the suggestion of ignorance toward Al's platform. As I have stated, I have taken some action, and am in favor of many other "green" actions which I stated earlier.
HOWEVER, I would like for Al to follow his own advice, instead of "do as I say, not as I do".

"Mr. Buster, where the f--- you at? Can't scrap or lick, so I know you got yo gat." Hilarious.

Schneed pointed this out already, but switching the source of energy production from fossil fuels to renewables means Gore can keep his house and still be green. So his energy consumption has nothing to do with this conversation. Pointing out that Gore's energy consumption is higher than usual, while usually a somewhat dishonest attempt to obfuscate an important issue, is in this case completely irrelevant.

And I love how you respect buster enough to call him Mr. but Gore is just Al. I mean, I don't care about the latter but you are seriously killing me with the Mr. Buster.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

You guys are totally right. Let's just ignore this issue because Gore's house uses a lot of energy and keep powering the country with fossil fuels.

I do not for one minute think it's unreasonable for someone to question the motives of a guy that doesn't practice what he preaches. You wouldn't take weight loss advice from a guy that is 400 pounds would you?

That being said, I love what Gore is saying, just hate who is saying it. In fact, I feel that Gore hurts the cause, but then again, an argument could be made that no one else is standing up saying anything either.

Like Matty I have changed out all my light bulbs, and while I was hesitant to do so (thinking it would be duller light) it actually appears to be brighter light. If I recall, my new bulbs use around 14 watts, but put out the light of a 65 watt bulb. Plus they last a TON longer. I used to go through a bulb every 4-6 months on my back porch...I changed out to the new bulbs, and it's lasted over a year and counting. I also ride my motorcycle A LOT more (approx. 65 MPG), and walk to work occasionally (when it's not 100+ degrees). I now buy gas for my truck once every 6-8 weeks instead of every 2-3 weeks. I have also seriously considered getting solar panels put on the house, but do you have any clue how expensive that is???? Maybe the government should give a sizable rebate or something...jeesh. I have also had all the windows replaced in the house. I am amazed at how much energy was literally floating out the window!!! I am in the process of getting a new front door and back french doors as well that will help with energy issues.

[MTK]

I'm more concerned about the message vs. the messenger, it's important to keep this issue at the forefront:

Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, Democratic presidential candidate: "I strongly agree with Vice President Gore that we cannot drill our way to energy independence, but must fast-track investments in renewable sources of energy like solar power, wind power and advanced biofuels, and those are the investments I will make as president."

Arizona Sen. John McCain, Republican presidential candidate, on Gore's goals for more wind and solar power: "There may be some aspects of climate change that he and I are in disagreement (on)," but "if the vice president says it's doable, I believe it's doable."

T. Boone Pickens, Texas oilman and wind-power booster: "Former Vice President Al Gore put forward a framework of a plan that is focused on global warming and climate issues. ... My plan is aimed squarely at breaking the stranglehold that foreign oil has on our country. We import 70 percent of our oil, and that number is growing larger every year. Vice President Gore's plan does not address this enormous problem."

Jim Owen, spokesman for Edison Electric Institute: "We cannot do the job with renewables and energy efficiency alone. We have to have a balanced energy portfolio that includes all those things in even higher percentages, but also has to include nuclear. And we frankly think that nuclear should be increased."

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif.: "The vice president's main effort is to mobilize the American people behind meaningful action and less talk about global warming."

Gene Karpinski, League of Conservation Voters president: "It's a very aggressive, bold, comprehensive proposal, and it's great to challenge the politicians to go where they need to go."

Former Rep. Bob Barr, Libertarian presidential candidate: "None of us can walk away from this issue without agreeing with him that we do have a very serious problem, and it's only going to get worse unless we do something about it. ... I hope to be a part of that, and I would like to see the free market take the lead, not the government."

Rep. Jay Inslee, D-Wash.: "It pointed out that the only way we have a chance to drive down oil prices is if we become free of the slavery of oil. If we can give Americans choices of electrical cars or ... biodiesel cars, then and only then do we have a chance of dealing with this cost issue. That is why $4-a-gallon gas is not an enemy of action, it's an ally of action."

[Hog1]

IMO, we need to promote a more balanced portfolio of energy sources in this country (as has already been touted in your article). Naturally, that would relieve some, and hopefully enough of the dependence on petroleum. Diversity, I believe is the answer. If any one thing goes South, we have the other sources to fall back on. It should allow us to back off from foreign suppliers, and use our own production. The appropriate technology in the appropriate places, as not everything will work everywhere.
AND, T. Boone Pickens is not an idiot. I have some info someone emailed me, but it is lengthy and I have not read it yet.
For what it's worth, I am investigating alternatives for myself (as in converting my vehicles I currently have).
Possibly, the bio-diesel, Hydrogen, and Propane assist to determine if it's just smoke and mirrors, or has some merit.

[MTK]

Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.

Well, I say I'm going to do a lot of that stuff, particularly switching out my light bulbs, but admittedly have not. Um, I use reusable grocery bags though.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.

i live 3min away from work.
when we go out somewhere, we carpool.
the light bulb thing

i mean, right now i really don't use much energy compared to an average person, but at work we have lots of fun polluting toys to counteract whatever eco-savings i may make.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.

Installed new windows and doors cutting down on drafts in the house, installed a new high-efficiency furnace and high-efficiency central air unit. Installed an attic fan attached to a thermal switch, so it turns on when the attic temp gets above 80. Helps cool off the house and reduces overall electric usage in the summer.

I mainly did this stuff for the savings on my monthly expenses, rather than "going green." But it just so happens doing things more efficiently helps both the wallet and the environment. It's in everyone's best interests, really.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just curious, have you guys done anything at home to be more green?

I've swapped out nearly all of my light bulbs for compact fluorescents. I noticed a difference in my electric bill right away. My wife and I are also more conscious of keeping unnecessary lights off. I also keep my heat and a/c running strong with yearly tune ups and frequent changes of the air filter. And I installed a programmable thermostat when I first moved in.

I use CFL all round the house. If I'm not in a room the light is turned off. When I'm not at home everything is turned off. The thermostat turns the heaters on an hour before I get home. If it's cold I wear warm cloths, when it's hot I shed some cloths. It's all easy 1-2-3.