Should Zorn Adapt to Campbell?

[SmootSmack]

This column by Thomas Boswell (another good one from Bos) got me thinking...(insert joke here)

We've talked a lot about Jason Campbell adjusting to fit the WCO, and if he can't to just cut bait with him. But should we consider the opposite? Should Zorn adjust his scheme (on more than just the occassional shotgun) to suit the skills of Campbell?

I refer back to Joe Gibbs first run as head coach as a comparison. He was brought in to add excitement to the team (particularly the offense) and implement the Air Coryell, aggressive downfield passing attack. But then he saw that he had a huge asset in Riggins and the running game and adjusted accordingly. His ability to do so ultimately made him one of the best head coaches of all time.

At what point do we/should we expect the same of Zorn? (I don't mean expect him to be one of the best all time, I mean expect him to adjust)

[Soup's Uncle]

Yes he should...look what happened when Joe Gibbs adapted to fit Theismann and Riggo!

[MTK]

To Zorn's credit he's already said he will allow JC to work out of the gun more. I think we can count this as an adjustment, because Zorn is clearly not a huge fan of the shotgun.

All in all though I really think that Zorn feels he's not asking JC to do something that he's not capable of doing.

[mcarey032]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

To Zorn's credit he's already said he will allow JC to work out of the gun more. I think we can count this as an adjustment, because Zorn is clearly not a huge fan of the shotgun.

All in all though I really think that Zorn feels he's not asking JC to do something that he's not capable of doing.

Yes that maybe true, but it isn't like we have the ideal receivers to run the WCO. I know that the seattle receivers aren't really tall, but they aren't as short as Randle El and Moss. It is hard when you take a 3 and 5 step drop and you are hoping that the receiver is going to be to the spot because you can't see over the lineman and they get lost. There is a lot of faith that goes into that type of decision. I would say that it is wise for Zorn to change his philosophy to adapt to Jason's strengths.

[BDBohnzie]

I agree with The Ego on both his points. Coaches will adjust their systems to fit their personnel. And if they don't, those coaches find themselves looking for work...

[redsk1]

No offense, SS, it's a good thread, but god I hope JC has a good game Sunday, so we can take a break from the JC s***.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redsk1

No offense, SS, it's a good thread, but god I hope JC has a good game Sunday, so we can take a break from the JC s***.

Personally, I think that he can be very good in a WCO, and especially when he has Kelly, Thomas , and even Davis in there regularly. Ultimately, Campbell is just one piece (though a large piece) of this new offense.

I agree with Matty that Campbell probably isn't being asked to do anything the coaches don't think he's capable of (to think otherwise is to imply they are setting him up for failure).

But there are plenty of people who are ready to write Campbell off now. And that's fine, I think that's extreme, but their opinion. But before they do, I just wanted to ask simply "What Should Zorn Do?"

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Personally, I think that he can be very good in a WCO, and especially when he has Kelly, Thomas , and even Davis in there regularly. Ultimately, Campbell is just one piece (though a large piece) of this new offense.

I agree with Matty that Campbell probably isn't being asked to do anything the coaches don't think he's capable of (to think otherwise is to imply they are setting him up for failure).

But there are plenty of people who are ready to write Campbell off now. And that's fine, I think that's extreme, but their opinion. But before they do, I just wanted to ask simply "What Should Zorn Do?"

I don't think it was wise for Campbell to publicly ask for more shotgun formations- he probably should have done that behind closed doors. But I am happy to hear Zorn will grant his request to some extent. Hopefully we'll be creative and have some decent running plays set up out of the shotgun as well.

Zorn should absolutely adapt to Campbell. It's a good question with a simple answer really. You can still continue teaching JC the intricacies of the WCO while playing to his strengths, with the shotgun thing as case in point. If a little more shotgun will help JC see the field and coverages a little faster, then run more of it.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This column by Thomas Boswell (another good one from Bos) got me thinking...(insert joke here)

We've talked a lot about Jason Campbell adjusting to fit the WCO, and if he can't to just cut bait with him. But should we consider the opposite? Should Zorn adjust his scheme (on more than just the occassional shotgun) to suit the skills of Campbell?

I refer back to Joe Gibbs first run as head coach as a comparison. He was brought in to add excitement to the team (particularly the offense) and implement the Air Coryell, aggressive downfield passing attack. But then he saw that he had a huge asset in Riggins and the running game and adjusted accordingly. His ability to do so ultimately made him one of the best head coaches of all time.

At what point do we/should we expect the same of Zorn? (I don't mean expect him to be one of the best all time, I mean expect him to adjust)

Yea but did he really adjust or went with what worked best in his system. He just gave the ball more to Riggins then it opened up the passing game but he did not change anything more than how he called the plays. I take your question as to changing the plays themself to better fit JC which is not going to happen because Zorn believes in the system or he would not have brought it here. He could do minor things to help JC.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Yea but did he really adjust or went with what worked best in his system. He just gave the ball more to Riggins then it opened up the passing game but he did not change anything more than how he called the plays. I take your question as to changing the plays themself to better fit JC which is not going to happen because Zorn believes in the system or he would not have brought it here. He could do minor things to help JC.

minor? the widespread use of singleback formations and H-backs? (mainly to stop LT)... 91's run run bomb offense? (the other seasons didn't quite look the same).

only a stupid coach wouldn't adjust to fit his players. gibbs did it midway into his 1st year, schotty did it with terrible players here... its a free force multiplier, so you might as well use it.

[53Fan]

Sherman Smith said they were going to put Campbell in the shot gun more because Campbell said he can see the field better. "But if he still does'nt play well, then we have a problem." Zorn has pretty much left it up to Campbell when to use it. In Zorns own words it does somewhat restrict the running game so you can't use it all the time. They will continue to make adjustments but I seriously doubt they will trash the wco. On a side note, Kelly and Thomas had very good pratices today.

[53Fan]

Pratices? I'm having trouble c ing today.

[MTK]

I really think this whole thing is being over analyzed to death too. I know it sounds like a broken record but it's been one freaking game. Can we just give him the chance to get a grasp on this new offense??

[FRPLG]

I agree with Matty but I do think coaches need to fit the scheme to maximize the abilities of the players. No reason that Zorn can't try to get his stuff in and as he evaluates make adjustments that need to be made.

As much as I hate Belichek this is one thing he does well. He makes his schemes fit his players...and well. It's a big reason they win.

[cochise]

PLEEEEEEASE. JC is 6ft what? Telling me he can't see his wr's? Has anyone thought about checking his eyesight? Time to just MAN UP!