Eagles & Cowboys how good are they?

johnerotten · 09-16-2008, 01:14 PM

last night's game was a real slugfest,but i was left wondering about how good each team's defense was? clearly,both teams have great offense,but
i thought defenses looked awful.is this the way they are gonna be or can it just be the adrelaine of a slugfest was too much for the defenses last night?

since we have to play each on the road in the next month,do you guys think we match up as well against them as they did against each other last night?
are we good enough to slug it out with them yet?

SFREDSKIN · 09-16-2008, 01:20 PM

When you have 2 teams with high powered offenses that's what happens. I still say both of those teams have pretty good defenses, you can't evaluate them by one game. Look at the Skins in pre-season's loss to Carolina.

MTK · 09-16-2008, 01:23 PM

I think it was just one of those games where the offenses were clicking. They still both have good defenses. They're not going to play games like that every week.

Hog1 · 09-16-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it was just one of those games where the offenses were clicking. They still both have good defenses. They're not going to play games like that every week.

I hope you are right, because as I watched the O's going at it, I got that feeling in my stomach, like when you hit the peak at the top of a killer roller coaster, just before descent................I still have it!!!

saden1 · 09-16-2008, 01:24 PM

Very good. We just have to keep T.O. and Westbrook under wraps when we play them.

Ferrari · 09-16-2008, 01:25 PM

all i know is that neither team will be putting up 35+ points......if ur name is not the 2007 Tom Brady Patriots then that just doesn't happen against our defense I dont care who we have on the roster.

sandtrapjack · 09-16-2008, 01:26 PM

Cowboys are playing two teams on the field, the opposition and themselves.

They have WAY TOO many penalties that extend drives. And they have 3 turnovers in 2 games.

Take away one turnover and half of the penalties from that Monday night game, and the score is not as close.

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Cowboys are playing two teams on the field, the opposition and themselves.

They have WAY TOO many penalties that extend drives. And they have 3 turnovers in 2 games.

Take away one turnover and half of the penalties from that Monday night game, and the score is not as close.

That comes down to coaching. Also your secondary is really suspect. I was amazed at how easily Philly moved the ball through the air with back up wr's. I think Philly wins if Mcnabb doesn't fumble the ball.

johnerotten · 09-16-2008, 01:37 PM

philly hs that revamped secondary,and dallas passed all over that.the pokes let mcnab look like the flash out there in terms of containment.phily's receivers are decent at best,
and there is no way they are as good as either ours or dallas.last night they looked like the 2nd coming of art monk,jerry rice and irvin.and somebody forgot to tell the eagles that witten cathes passes frequently too.romo ate them up just passing to witten and not counting barber and the wrs.

wilsowilso · 09-16-2008, 01:57 PM

Both QB's had very good protection and since they are both very good QB's you are going to see a high scoring game. Dallas and Philly have the #1 and #2 biggest Olines in the NFL. We will have to find a way to get to those QB's.

sandtrapjack · 09-16-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wilsowilso

Both QB's had very good protection and since they are both very good QB's you are going to see a high scoring game. Dallas and Philly have the #1 and #2 biggest Olines in the NFL. We will have to find a way to get to those QB's.

McNabb sacked = 4
Romo sacked = 0

Dallas defense missed TONS of sacks in the backfield. Credit half of those misses to McNabbs elusiveness and the rest to poor tackling by the Dallas "D".

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

McNabb sacked = 4
Romo sacked = 0

Dallas defense missed TONS of sacks in the backfield. Credit half of those misses to McNabbs elusiveness and the rest to poor tackling by the Dallas "D".

I also think one of the best pick ups Dallas has made is Leonard Davis. He was a total bust in Ariz and I could not believe Jones threw all that money at him last year. But he's moved down to guard and has been a stud.

jamf · 09-16-2008, 02:03 PM

Dont forget to add in fluke plays like the romo fumble for TD and the kickoff return.

What you saw in the second half of the game is what you will see the rest of the year.

EternalEnigma21 · 09-16-2008, 02:20 PM

Neither of the Ds scare me. I didn't watch last night beyond the chick getting booed after butchering the national anthem. I've never seen anyone get booed singing that bt my wife says she was all cocky and looked incredibly conceited as she was horribly mutilating the national anthem.

Enough digression... Dallas has the opportunity to field a great D with the personell, but I'm not sure they're gonna realize that potential. As far as matching up against us I seriously doubt they're gonna rack up 30+ on our D. One of them may do that 1 time early in the season, but it would be the exception not the rule. Our division is gonna be tough but we have a chance to compete definitely.

skinsfan69 · 09-16-2008, 02:23 PM

One thing I noticed is that both play callers are so damn aggressive it's not even funny. Philly is playing with scrub WR's and they have the pedal to the medal the whole game. There is no horizontal passing game in Philly's west coast offense what so ever. And McNabb and the Philly O-line makes it all go. I think it just shows you if you have those two things going for you then you can have a good passing offense w/out big time wr's.
Same thing with Dallas. These two teams simply don't belive in throwing 5 yard passes.

09-16-2008, 01:23 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,565	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? I think it was just one of those games where the offenses were clicking. They still both have good defenses. They're not going to play games like that every week. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-16-2008, 01:24 PM	#5
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? Very good. We just have to keep T.O. and Westbrook under wraps when we play them. __________________ "The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder." -Jenkins

09-16-2008, 01:25 PM	#6
Ferrari Camp Scrub Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 43	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? all i know is that neither team will be putting up 35+ points......if ur name is not the 2007 Tom Brady Patriots then that just doesn't happen against our defense I dont care who we have on the roster.

09-16-2008, 01:26 PM	#7
sandtrapjack The Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,994	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? Cowboys are playing two teams on the field, the opposition and themselves. They have WAY TOO many penalties that extend drives. And they have 3 turnovers in 2 games. Take away one turnover and half of the penalties from that Monday night game, and the score is not as close.

09-16-2008, 01:37 PM	#9
johnerotten Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: commonwealth of va Posts: 795	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? philly hs that revamped secondary,and dallas passed all over that.the pokes let mcnab look like the flash out there in terms of containment.phily's receivers are decent at best, and there is no way they are as good as either ours or dallas.last night they looked like the 2nd coming of art monk,jerry rice and irvin.and somebody forgot to tell the eagles that witten cathes passes frequently too.romo ate them up just passing to witten and not counting barber and the wrs.

09-16-2008, 01:14 PM	#1
johnerotten Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: commonwealth of va Posts: 795	Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? last night's game was a real slugfest,but i was left wondering about how good each team's defense was? clearly,both teams have great offense,but i thought defenses looked awful.is this the way they are gonna be or can it just be the adrelaine of a slugfest was too much for the defenses last night? since we have to play each on the road in the next month,do you guys think we match up as well against them as they did against each other last night? are we good enough to slug it out with them yet?

09-16-2008, 01:20 PM	#2
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? When you have 2 teams with high powered offenses that's what happens. I still say both of those teams have pretty good defenses, you can't evaluate them by one game. Look at the Skins in pre-season's loss to Carolina. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

09-16-2008, 01:57 PM	#10
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 51 Posts: 2,841	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? Both QB's had very good protection and since they are both very good QB's you are going to see a high scoring game. Dallas and Philly have the #1 and #2 biggest Olines in the NFL. We will have to find a way to get to those QB's.

09-16-2008, 02:03 PM	#13
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,323	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? Dont forget to add in fluke plays like the romo fumble for TD and the kickoff return. What you saw in the second half of the game is what you will see the rest of the year.

09-16-2008, 02:20 PM	#14
EternalEnigma21 Assistant Regional Mod Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Carbondale CO Age: 44 Posts: 2,958	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? Neither of the Ds scare me. I didn't watch last night beyond the chick getting booed after butchering the national anthem. I've never seen anyone get booed singing that bt my wife says she was all cocky and looked incredibly conceited as she was horribly mutilating the national anthem. Enough digression... Dallas has the opportunity to field a great D with the personell, but I'm not sure they're gonna realize that potential. As far as matching up against us I seriously doubt they're gonna rack up 30+ on our D. One of them may do that 1 time early in the season, but it would be the exception not the rule. Our division is gonna be tough but we have a chance to compete definitely. __________________ I am the brute squad.

09-16-2008, 02:23 PM	#15
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,319	Re: Eagles & Cowboys how good are they? One thing I noticed is that both play callers are so damn aggressive it's not even funny. Philly is playing with scrub WR's and they have the pedal to the medal the whole game. There is no horizontal passing game in Philly's west coast offense what so ever. And McNabb and the Philly O-line makes it all go. I think it just shows you if you have those two things going for you then you can have a good passing offense w/out big time wr's. Same thing with Dallas. These two teams simply don't belive in throwing 5 yard passes.

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