Why Did We Draft Fred Davis?

[SouperMeister]

So let's see if I have this right - Dallas trusts their backup TE drafted in the 2nd round to make a game winning catch in the 4th quarter of a key division game, but our TE drafted in the 2nd round can't get on the field for the Skins, who have scored a grand total of 16 points and one TD at home the past two weeks? We hear what a stud Davis looks like in practice, but Zorn can't find a place for him to impact the game on Sunday? I was vehemently against the Davis pick when there were more pressing depth issues on the O and D lines. But now that we have him, at least let the guy make an impact on Sunday. This is a completely wasted pick for this season if Zorn continues to leave Davis rotting on the pine. For that matter, is Devin Thomas only capable of running 5 yard curls? Until this offense gets something in the passing game from somebody not named Cooley or Moss, it is a very predictable passing attack to gameplan against.

[Beemnseven]

At the time, I thought it was a good pick for depth behind Chris Cooley if we ever lost him to injury.

But that's a steep price to pay for a backup tight end. Especially when your O-line has gotten old in the span of about 3 weeks.

[JWsleep]

Prediction: he's going to take Yoder's place next season.

Zorn has been slow to bring the rookies along. But that's fine, IMO. In this offense, they need to be very precise and they aren't there yet. Plus, all three have been hurt, delaying there progress. Don't give up on them yet!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by JWsleep

Prediction: he's going to take Yoder's place next season.

Zorn has been slow to bring the rookies along. But that's fine, IMO. In this offense, they need to be very precise and they aren't there yet. Plus, all three have been hurt, delaying there progress. Don't give up on them yet!

Sad. I like Yoder. The guy is money down on the goal line.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Sad. I like Yoder. The guy is money down on the goal line.

Wait until you see Davis unleashed!!!! (I really hope!)

[JWsleep]

On Devin Thomas: according to Zorn in his presser, on a play where JC threw to Cooley underneath after getting flushed from the pocket, DT was wide open for a TD if the pocket holds. So Devin is going deep. You set that up by running curls and outs. Then you play action and run a double move. And we did that. And the CB bit on the fake and Devin was open. But the protection broke down. JC scrambled and hit Cooley. But that shows how weak pass pro can make EVERYTHING look bad.

[Ruhskins]

Why did we draft Malcolm Kelly for him to be hurt all season? Who knows. I wonder if any rookie o-lineman would have worked out. I do know that I was wrong in thinking that we needed a free agent WR. We needed a free agent lineman, since that seems to be the cause of a lot of our troubles lately.

[drew54]

2009 #1 pick should be OLine.

[RedskinPete]

Originally Posted by drew54

2009 #1 pick should be OLine.

Yes but we have NO pass rush as well! We need a lot wilth little picks coming in 09!

[SouperMeister]

I just heard Zorn's Monday afternoon presser, and he says that it comes down to a trust issue as to whether Davis will run the correct assignment/route. Apparently, he's showing great ability, but still isn't there on the mental side. Let's hope that the rookie receivers get it together soon, because this offense really needs a shot in the arm.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

I just heard Zorn's Monday afternoon presser, and he says that it comes down to a trust issue as to whether Davis will run the correct assignment/route. Apparently, he's showing great ability, but still isn't there on the mental side. Let's hope that the rookie receivers get it together soon, because this offense really needs a shot in the arm.

That's the same issue that Devin Thomas is having. Are these guys really such mental midgets that after training camp, 5 preseason games, and 10 regular season games, they can't learn assignments? That's troubling. I appreciate Zorn's explanation, but it's far from an excuse.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's the same issue that Devin Thomas is having. Are these guys really such mental midgets that after training camp, 5 preseason games, and 10 regular season games, they can't learn assignments? That's troubling. I appreciate Zorn's explanation, but it's far from an excuse.

There in lies part of the problem. We picked supposedly the best available player, in a position we needed help imediatly which is why some of us were screaming for CJ (Chad Johnson). The other lot of you said no lets go get a brand new younger WR from the draft so we can put on the field imediatly and have for years. Now you see what us others were worried about, that any drafted WR would not be able to contribute at all imediatly. I also stated I was not impressed with our WR coach. He for what ever reason can't seem to teach even our vetran WR's how to run a route or shake a defender off. Why we picked him up from the college ranks is beyond me cause he seems to have no idea what to teach at the pro level. Moss and ARE should have taken one WR under their wing and taught them the system and route running for that particular WR...ie; X,Z, and whatever other letter you can think of. Then next year have Moss and ARE trade the rookie WR's and train them in the other pattern running.

Likewise...Cooley should have had to take Davis under his wing and train him on the routes and play calling.

...but no one will catch a ball if our QB is constantly running for his life. Why they don't have more roll out patterns for JC is also again beyond me. If the opposing D is getting a good push up the middle constantly roll out. Get away from the rush. Another thing. Dallas changed up at the half and used max protect in the back field. I guess we don't have something like that for our QB? as I keep stating they are using the TTB in the wrong fashion. He was never a run between the tackles kind of RB. He was a push to the outside/edge, pass catching RB. What do we do with him? hand him the ball and say run up the middle. What did we get a loss of 1?

I know it's easy for me to solve their problems since I'm the Monday moring, couch potato coach....but I still have a problem with our 2 min drill that Zorn last week said he was satisfied with. No hurry up offense.

The only consolation I have is I hope we can beat Seatle. This should be an easy weekend for us. A true day to put up the numbers if there ever was one.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by drew54

2009 #1 pick should be OLine.

EVERY PICK IN 2009 should be either O-LINE or D-LINE.

We drafted Fred Davis (as well as the others - jury is still out on them) because we believe we are smarter than the other NFL teams- that is, on draft day, we were certain that every other NFL team got it wrong and that each of the 3 picks are "steals" or "must draft" at their picks. Now, there is nothing wrong with thinking you are smarter than other teams, except when you aren't. Hindsight is 20/20, I know- but can't we do better?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BrunellMVP?

EVERY PICK IN 2009 should be either O-LINE or D-LINE.

We drafted Fred Davis (as well as the others - jury is still out on them) because we believe we are smarter than the other NFL teams- that is, on draft day, we were certain that every other NFL team got it wrong and that each of the 3 picks are "steals" or "must draft" at their picks. Now, there is nothing wrong with thinking you are smarter than other teams, except when you aren't. Hindsight is 20/20, I know- but can't we do better?

I agree 100% with this. There's nothing wrong with going out on a limb on draft day and trying to show all the other teams whats up...but then it's pretty critical that you get it right.

[SmootSmack]

We had threads like this on Rogers, Campbell, and I think McIntosh as well.