Reading between the lines I say Zorn is gone.

[maroonandblack30]

ESPN - Jim Zorn's status with Washington Redskins not discussed

Classic front office speak.... I will be shocked if Zorn is here in 09

Dagger.... I guess we are starting over again.

[redsk1]

I would be more worried if he got a "vote of confidence."

He'll be here. Zorn was our choice of many candidates last year. VC said so.

Don't fire JZ. But if you do, Jim Schwartz and a GM, not Bill Cowher.

[53Fan]

I don't know. When asked if Zorn was staying, Vinny answered yeah, then reiterated the matter has'nt been discussed. Sounds to me like he slipped when he said yeah.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I don't know. When asked if Zorn was staying, Vinny answered yeah, then reiterated the matter has'nt been discussed. Sounds to me like he slipped when he said yeah.

He's saying that Zorn will be back and that they didn't even discusss a change.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

He's saying that Zorn will be back and that they didn't even discusss a change.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I don't know. When asked if Zorn was staying, Vinny answered yeah, then reiterated the matter has'nt been discussed. Sounds to me like he slipped when he said yeah.

I think Zorn is gone. He has lost 5 straight to sub par teams, he then got into it with arguably our best offensive player. All of this as well as the fact management sides with big name players.


Bottom Line: If Zorn goes 7-9 he'll see the door

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I think Zorn is gone. He has lost 5 straight to sub par teams, he then got into it with arguably our best offensive player. All of this as well as the fact management sides with big name players.


Bottom Line: If Zorn goes 7-9 he'll see the door

Sub-par? Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, Ravens? those aren't sub par teams.

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Sub-par? Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, Ravens? those aren't sub par teams.

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by vallin21

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

Those are definitely not sub-par teams though. I think the concern shouldn't be that we lost to those teams so much as how non-competitive we looked.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by vallin21

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

Where did I say we couldn't beat those teams? I am just disputing that teams with a combined record of 40-13 aren't "sub-par" I think thats pretty obvious.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by vallin21

So your saying we can't beat those teams. 3 of those 4 games were at home. Baltimore is a 45 min drive. They might not be "sub par" but all 4 games are games we had a chance to win.

"Chance to" does not equal win. And they definately aren't subpar teams.

If Zorn is gone the O will be even worse next year.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Sub-par? Steelers, Cowboys, Giants, Ravens? those aren't sub par teams.

How about the Rams and BenGALS then?

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

How about the Rams and BenGALS then?

read the whole post before you make your comments. I was refering to a poster who said that the last 5 losses were to sub-par teams. The Bengals are sub-par but the other 4 will all make the playoffs.

Seriously, I know the Skins fall is disappointing but 5 of their 7 losses were to legit teams.... the sad thing is that if they had taken care of business against the Rams and Bungles they would probably be going to playoffs.

[PennSkinsFan]

I can only accept it if Vinny goes with him. Vinny drafts. Vinny sings older vets to big money deals. Vinny makes stupid trades. ANDDDDDDDD Vinny hired Zorn. Getting rid of Zorn and keeping Vinny fixes NOTHING.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

I can only accept it if Vinny goes with him. Vinny drafts. Vinny sings older vets to big money deals. Vinny makes stupid trades. ANDDDDDDDD Vinny hired Zorn. Getting rid of Zorn and keeping Vinny fixes NOTHING.

Amen. The reality is that our coach is irrelevent until we get rid of VC and put a real GM in place. Our talent has at best a 10 win upside if everything goes right. In the 10 years VC has been involved we have never had a roster that had Super Bowl talent.