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Old 03-05-2009, 12:35 PM   #1
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Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:38 PM   #2
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

He's young. Not too experienced since he's only started a handful of games, but I love that we're addressing the line this year.
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

Anyone got a scouting profile on this dude? I know nothing of him.
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

He's a backup G with the Cards, I thought they were looking for starting RT.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:47 PM   #5
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

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Anyone got a scouting profile on this dude? I know nothing of him.
From the RI Blog (not sure about the original source):

Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider

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Write up on the Elton Brown
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Expert's Take Brown is a fourth-year player who is a backup guard and tackle. He was a backup all year in 2008, but did start five games for Arizona in 2007. He has very good size and strength. He is better suited athletically to play inside at guard rather than outside on the edge versus speed-rushers. He has good initial quickness in the run game, but tends to be upright on contact. Brown has a strong upper body to control and steer defenders, but his footwork is inconsistent to sustain angles. He shows average balance and body control, which limits his ability to finish or adjust versus quickness. In pass protection, he has average foot speed and lateral quickness. He is effective on the short set in a confined area where his size and strength can lock on quickly. His lack of foot quickness will cause him to lean and get overextended versus quicker players who can change direction and get on his edge. Overall, Brown still has upside as a guard due to his size and strength, but he lacks top athleticism as an offensive tackle.
If we sign him, hopefully its as a backup/replacement for Fabini or Kendall. He's young and someone on the RI blog said his writeup was very similar to Leonard Davis when he left Arizona - but when Dallas switched him to guard, he went to the pro-bowl the next year.

Randy Thomas is going to need to be replaced sooner or later, so perhaps Brown could replace him in 2010 if he develops. Rinehart certainly sounds like a bust and we need young backup linemen with upside. Brown fits the bill.
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Old 03-05-2009, 12:54 PM   #6
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Re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

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Elton Brown Set to Visit Redskins Park Today - Redskins Insider



If we sign him, hopefully its as a backup/replacement for Fabini or Kendall. He's young and someone on the RI blog said his writeup was very similar to Leonard Davis when he left Arizona - but when Dallas switched him to guard, he went to the pro-bowl the next year.

Randy Thomas is going to need to be replaced sooner or later, so perhaps Brown could replace him in 2010 if he develops. Rinehart certainly sounds like a bust and we need young backup linemen with upside. Brown fits the bill.

If they are bringing him in to be the answer at RT we are in trouble. You have to like a guy who can play two positions. As far as Thomas, I am not sure that I would be happy if Brown is the heir apparent, especially if we do not find a stud to play RT.

I wouldn't completely write Rinehart off after one year. Some people take longer to develop and it sounds like he was a little shell shocked being called up to the big leagues. He came from a small school so it was a huge adjustment.
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Old 03-05-2009, 01:04 PM   #7
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Re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

I think it is smart for our FO to stockpile talent on the O-line. I would love for one of the big 4 Tackles to fall to us but I think it is important not to bank on it. I think a signing of a Ray Willis doesnt necessarily mean that he is our solution. I think if anything he is great depth with starter experience (and success being a starter). Jansen is gone next year as is Thomas in my opinion (possibly even Rabach). Its time to get some younger guys in here to groom.
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I think it is smart for our FO to stockpile talent on the O-line. I would love for one of the big 4 Tackles to fall to us but I think it is important not to bank on it. I think a signing of a Ray Willis doesnt necessarily mean that he is our solution. I think if anything he is great depth with starter experience (and success being a starter). Jansen is gone next year as is Thomas in my opinion (possibly even Rabach). Its time to get some younger guys in here to groom.
I agree, and these guys they are bringing in are young and have some upside. Can't hate on that.
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

One of the comments on the above link:
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

I would think Buges is picking Grimm's brain on this kid before any signing happens.

He's a young, versatile lineman who'd be a nice addition. I'd still like Oher or Smith to be our new starting RT, though I'm increasingly skeptical that is happening.
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re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

what about willis? Is this true? I just emailed the mayor to find out. Sign both of them and our oline is set.
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Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

what about willis? Is this true? I just emailed the mayor to find out. Sign both of them and our oline is set.
Interesting that that article says we have 6M in cap room... as opposed to the 12-13 the warpath gurus have calculated. Thats a huge discrepancy. Wonder where the missing space is?
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Re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

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Interesting that that article says we have 6M in cap room... as opposed to the 12-13 the warpath gurus have calculated. Thats a huge discrepancy. Wonder where the missing space is?
Maybe the WP figure includes the amount set aside for the draft and the article didn't.
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Re: Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

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Maybe the WP figure includes the amount set aside for the draft and the article didn't.
Our guru's here have already figured that the draft amount will be about 2.5-3 mill. If we are 12-13 under the CAP then I'll agree and say 6 mill is a lot to be off by?
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Maybe the WP figure includes the amount set aside for the draft and the article didn't.
Maybe the folks that cover the Redskins for the WP are friggin idiots??
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