Grading the 2006 Draft

CRedskinsRule · 03-15-2009, 06:07 PM

With the draft around the corner, and no major news likely soon, I thought we could discuss the few draft classes that, following the 2-3 yr development rule, that we ought to be able to grade out now.
Here is our draft from the 2006 class .

# Year Rd Overall Player Pos
1 2006 2 35 Rocky McIntosh LB
2 2006 5 153 Anthony Montgomery NT
3 2006 6 173 Reed Doughty DB
4 2006 6 196 Kedric Golston DT
5 2006 7 230 Kili Lefotu G
6 2006 7 250 Kevin Simon LB

I think I would give it a B+, or A-, given that we had only 1 first day pick, it looks like we got 3 solid players, McIntosh, Montgomery, and Golston, and 1 mid grade in Reed Doughty. I remember Lefotu, but nothing about Simon. What does every one else think?

GTripp0012 · 03-15-2009, 06:14 PM

Better than expected, given the picks we didn't have that year (thanks, BLloyd). Still, we didn't fill a bunch of needs that we currently have now, and it cost us a 2nd round pick in 07 to get McIntosh, who absolutely hasn't been ready to this point.

I give it a solid C.

skinsfan69 · 03-15-2009, 06:26 PM

I give it a c-. Giving up the extra pick for Rocky was just stupid. But Monty and Goldston have been very solid.

CRedskinsRule · 03-15-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I give it a c-. Giving up the extra pick for Rocky was just stupid. But Monty and Goldston have been very solid.

Even though I wasn't really looking at the FO moves, certainly it fits under the topic. So the FO gets a C- for costing us a 2007 pick, but the I think getting 4 productive players out of what picks we had gives them plus points.

skinsfan69 · 03-15-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Even though I wasn't really looking at the FO moves, certainly it fits under the topic. So the FO gets a C- for costing us a 2007 pick, but the I think getting 4 productive players out of what picks we had gives them plus points.

Well I only give them 3. A player like Reed D. can be found via free agency. Plus that pick could've well been a starter on the o or d line and that is why our depth sucks cause we keep doing these 2 for 1 deals over the years.

SouperMeister · 03-15-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I give it a c-. Giving up the extra pick for Rocky was just stupid. But Monty and Goldston have been very solid.

Agreed. I wonder whether we were really targeting Maryland's LB D'Qwell Jackson, who was selected one pick before we took McIntosh.

WaldSkins · 03-15-2009, 06:49 PM

2004
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
3. Chris Cooley, TE, Utah State - 81st overall
5. Mark Wilson, OT, California - 151st overall
6. Jim Molinaro, OT, Notre Dame - 180th overall

If you give 2006 an A-, what would you give this?

CRedskinsRule · 03-15-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

2004
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
3. Chris Cooley, TE, Utah State - 81st overall
5. Mark Wilson, OT, California - 151st overall
6. Jim Molinaro, OT, Notre Dame - 180th overall

If you give 2006 an A-, what would you give this?

Well, lets see, using the apparent criteria of having all our draft picks (not whether they are playing or not) obviously this was lousy as we only have four picks. Must be an E.
Now if you look at quality of the pick relative to where they were picked, and the growth they have(had) shown, I would say solid A to A+.

SC Skins Fan · 03-15-2009, 08:00 PM

How do you factor Jason Campbell into the 2006 draft? He cost us the 1st rounder that year (plus a 4th that the Broncos used to get Brandon Marshall) so do you factor him in to 2006?

CRedskinsRule · 03-15-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

How do you factor Jason Campbell into the 2006 draft? He cost us the 1st rounder that year (plus a 4th that the Broncos used to get Brandon Marshall) so do you factor him in to 2006?

I personally was only talking about how the players we selected have progressed for having 2 seasons under their belt. I would put him in to the 2005 class because that is when he was drafted.

skinsfan69 · 03-15-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

How do you factor Jason Campbell into the 2006 draft? He cost us the 1st rounder that year (plus a 4th that the Broncos used to get Brandon Marshall) so do you factor him in to 2006?

We always do these 2 for 1 deals and it doesn't work. Yes we have Cooley, JC, Portis and Rocky but we gave up 4-5 potential starters to get those players. We have an average QB that we gave up and extra number one pick for. Sorry but you don't do that unless it's Peyton Manning. So far we're losing out big time on the JC deal. I like the guy but so far he's not worth the price we paid to get him.

CRedskinsRule · 03-15-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

We always do these 2 for 1 deals and it doesn't work. Yes we have Cooley, JC, Portis and Rocky but we gave up 4-5 potential starters to get those players. We have an average QB that we gave up and extra number one pick for. Sorry but you don't do that unless it's Peyton Manning. So far we're losing out big time on the JC deal. I like the guy but so far he's not worth the price we paid to get him.

I agree about the 2 for 1 deals. Mainly cuz I think the league knows that if the Skins want something they are going to pay the price for it. That's one reason that I am hoping this "restraint" in picking up some of these additional FA's (pick any of the one's that the board has been yelling for). Maybe rationality will take hold.

As for picking up an o-line, or saying Doughty could have been any FA, I go back to the fact that he was supposed to back up ST, and he did that admirably. In fact if ST was still here, I think Doughty would be on the team and Horton probably would not have been taken. Finally Doughty held down a solid special teams position. Thats a good deal for a 6th round selection.

T.O.Killa · 03-15-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Well, lets see, using the apparent criteria of having all our draft picks (not whether they are playing or not) obviously this was lousy as we only have four picks. Must be an E.
Now if you look at quality of the pick relative to where they were picked, and the growth they have(had) shown, I would say solid A to A+.

Two pro bowlers out of four picks is another a+. I have always said that Vinny does a great job drafting, we just need to keep our picks for him.

Dirtbag59 · 03-15-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

2004
1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall
3. Chris Cooley, TE, Utah State - 81st overall
5. Mark Wilson, OT, California - 151st overall
6. Jim Molinaro, OT, Notre Dame - 180th overall

If you give 2006 an A-, what would you give this?

I give zat an "F". 50% to be exact az only 50% of ze players went to ze pro bowl.

Nflnick11 · 03-15-2009, 06:50 PM

I give it a C, because rocky has been a starter, and gholston &/or Montgomery switch off starting, Simon and lefotu r obviously not with us so that's to wasted picks (not exactly sure who would have been availible to us around that time whose good now), doughty is special teams only, and it really sounds like the skins didnt want him back, even though they resigned him, expect him to be cut, rocky has also had some injuries and considering we could of traded him for Briggs, I still would of done that, even with us keeping him we still should have gotten Briggs...so yeah this is all y I give the draft a C.

03-15-2009, 06:07 PM	#1
CRedskinsRule Living Legend Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 57 Posts: 21,429	Grading the 2006 Draft With the draft around the corner, and no major news likely soon, I thought we could discuss the few draft classes that, following the 2-3 yr development rule, that we ought to be able to grade out now. Here is our draft from the 2006 class . # Year Rd Overall Player Pos 1 2006 2 35 Rocky McIntosh LB 2 2006 5 153 Anthony Montgomery NT 3 2006 6 173 Reed Doughty DB 4 2006 6 196 Kedric Golston DT 5 2006 7 230 Kili Lefotu G 6 2006 7 250 Kevin Simon LB I think I would give it a B+, or A-, given that we had only 1 first day pick, it looks like we got 3 solid players, McIntosh, Montgomery, and Golston, and 1 mid grade in Reed Doughty. I remember Lefotu, but nothing about Simon. What does every one else think?

03-15-2009, 06:14 PM	#2
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Grading the 2006 Draft Better than expected, given the picks we didn't have that year (thanks, BLloyd). Still, we didn't fill a bunch of needs that we currently have now, and it cost us a 2nd round pick in 07 to get McIntosh, who absolutely hasn't been ready to this point. I give it a solid C. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-15-2009, 06:26 PM	#3
skinsfan69 Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 17,281	Re: Grading the 2006 Draft I give it a c-. Giving up the extra pick for Rocky was just stupid. But Monty and Goldston have been very solid.

03-15-2009, 06:49 PM	#7
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: Grading the 2006 Draft 2004 1. Sean Taylor, S, Miami - 5th overall 3. Chris Cooley, TE, Utah State - 81st overall 5. Mark Wilson, OT, California - 151st overall 6. Jim Molinaro, OT, Notre Dame - 180th overall If you give 2006 an A-, what would you give this? __________________ "I would change that around, Jesus isn't Cutler. I guarantee you Jesus couldnt thread the ball like Jay does."-Monksdown

03-15-2009, 08:00 PM	#9
SC Skins Fan The Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,555	Re: Grading the 2006 Draft How do you factor Jason Campbell into the 2006 draft? He cost us the 1st rounder that year (plus a 4th that the Broncos used to get Brandon Marshall) so do you factor him in to 2006? __________________ It has taken a long time, but I have finally realized that nothing I say about the Redskins will have any effect upon anything the Redskins do.

03-15-2009, 06:50 PM	#15
Nflnick11 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 432	Re: Grading the 2006 Draft I give it a C, because rocky has been a starter, and gholston &/or Montgomery switch off starting, Simon and lefotu r obviously not with us so that's to wasted picks (not exactly sure who would have been availible to us around that time whose good now), doughty is special teams only, and it really sounds like the skins didnt want him back, even though they resigned him, expect him to be cut, rocky has also had some injuries and considering we could of traded him for Briggs, I still would of done that, even with us keeping him we still should have gotten Briggs...so yeah this is all y I give the draft a C.

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