Postgame: NY

illdefined · 09-19-2004, 05:50 PM

here's a challenge: what part of our Offense stinks least?

seriously tho, what part of our offense works? WR dropped passes, Oline cant make holes, RBs no where to go, QBs well you know. this is serious, and people are gonna blame Gibbs being out of touch pretty soon. is it the players? is the scheme too complicated and overthought for these young guys? what is it??

Shawn Springs was supposed to be this game's Matt Bowen. saw him lined up at the line more than LaVar. LaVar had a quiet game. all in all, the D held up, but its getting more obvious they are going 120% for the lack of Dline talent. hope they can keep it up all year or have the Dline emerge before they get figured out.

redwagonskins · 09-19-2004, 05:52 PM

Cooley has been a monster. THAT"S something that is working.

JWsleep · 09-19-2004, 06:01 PM

Look, they were blitzing a lot, and stacking the run. You have to throw to releive the pressure. We failed to do so effectively, and then we turned the ball over SO MANY TIMES. We actually dominated on offense statistically in the second half, but the TOs ripped our hearts out. Without the TOs (and the drops) the O really didn't look that bad. The plays work, I think, but players have to execute. We beat ourselves.

SmootSmack · 09-19-2004, 06:04 PM

Why was Ray Brown playing and not Kenyatta Jones? And what's up with Lennie Friedman? How hard is it to snap the ball?

monk81 · 09-19-2004, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Why was Ray Brown playing and not Kenyatta Jones? And what's up with Lennie Friedman? How hard is it to snap the ball?

Yes, most curious....well Bugel must have known something............

SmootSmack · 09-19-2004, 06:47 PM

Well Gibbs said Kenyatta had a "fat ankle" so Ray Brown had been working with the first team all week and the staff decided to just ahead and start Brown

monk81 · 09-19-2004, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Well Gibbs said Kenyatta had a "fat ankle" so Ray Brown had been working with the first team all week and the staff decided to just ahead and start Brown

hmmmmmmmm....."fat ankle" huh. Thanks for the info. He had to play someone with experience with Brown rather than throwing the rookie Wilson into the fire. Couldn't afford to do that with the Redskins behind in the game.............

Skins fan 44 · 09-19-2004, 06:06 PM

Last week the Offense were Gods this week they are washed up. I can only imagine what practice will be like this week for the Redskins. I beleive that things will be working better next week. It could not of happened at a better time before the Cowpukes game. I would say that the coaches will be working harder to get things straightened out.

redwagonskins · 09-19-2004, 06:07 PM

Sometimes you need a good ass-kicking to get focused, but this was a bit much

monk81 · 09-19-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JWsleep

Look, they were blitzing a lot, and stacking the run. You have to throw to releive the pressure. We failed to do so effectively, and then we turned the ball over SO MANY TIMES. We actually dominated on offense statistically in the second half, but the TOs ripped our hearts out. Without the TOs (and the drops) the O really didn't look that bad. The plays work, I think, but players have to execute. We beat ourselves.

I totally agree with you JWsleep.........in the second half we were moving the ball under Ramsey. It was the turnovers and wide open receivers not catching the ball that killed us. We abanded the running game for a while because we were so far behind. Wth 7 turnovers the Giants should've scored more so the defense hung in there and kept us in the game. Yes, disappointing games for Arrington and Bowen, but Phillip Daniels going down hurt us. We lost this game ourselves.....

JWsleep · 09-19-2004, 06:05 PM

Good question about Kenyatta. What's up? Man, we miss Jansen!

JWsleep · 09-19-2004, 06:09 PM

We've just got to get back to work, and fix this thing. Turnovers and drops can be fixed. If anyone can do it, it's Gibbs and Co.

redwagonskins · 09-19-2004, 06:12 PM

I guess 15-1 is pretty respectable.

illdefined · 09-19-2004, 06:17 PM

yeah, we all saw what they did. and we saw our response.

is the Eagles Oline better than ours? where'd McNabb get the time? TO that much better than Coles? Westbrook better than Portis?

Will Allen was a chump last week, this week a monster. dropped balls, fumbles and ints means they were more physical than us. our O hasnt looked comfortable and in sync ONCE yet, doing both run and pass, not even in preseason. no denying.

its OK for Gardner to be slow cuz he's a 'possession' type receiver, only he's never been able to reliably possess a damn thing. Coles is supposed to be a burner, but he's hurt and i haven't seen any space between him and any defender in a long time. Portis aint seeing daylight, he's slaming into opposing defenders and coughing it up. somethings up. time for Gibbs to use that famous ability to adjust only during the week, not just at halftime.

illdefined · 09-19-2004, 06:20 PM

JW, unless you have a truly bad QB, Turnovers happen from losing the battle on the line sad to say.

09-19-2004, 05:50 PM	#1
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Postgame: NY here's a challenge: what part of our Offense stinks least? seriously tho, what part of our offense works? WR dropped passes, Oline cant make holes, RBs no where to go, QBs well you know. this is serious, and people are gonna blame Gibbs being out of touch pretty soon. is it the players? is the scheme too complicated and overthought for these young guys? what is it?? Shawn Springs was supposed to be this game's Matt Bowen. saw him lined up at the line more than LaVar. LaVar had a quiet game. all in all, the D held up, but its getting more obvious they are going 120% for the lack of Dline talent. hope they can keep it up all year or have the Dline emerge before they get figured out.

09-19-2004, 06:01 PM	#3
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Look, they were blitzing a lot, and stacking the run. You have to throw to releive the pressure. We failed to do so effectively, and then we turned the ball over SO MANY TIMES. We actually dominated on offense statistically in the second half, but the TOs ripped our hearts out. Without the TOs (and the drops) the O really didn't look that bad. The plays work, I think, but players have to execute. We beat ourselves. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-19-2004, 06:04 PM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Why was Ray Brown playing and not Kenyatta Jones? And what's up with Lennie Friedman? How hard is it to snap the ball? __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-19-2004, 06:47 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Well Gibbs said Kenyatta had a "fat ankle" so Ray Brown had been working with the first team all week and the staff decided to just ahead and start Brown __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-19-2004, 06:06 PM	#8
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	Last week the Offense were Gods this week they are washed up. I can only imagine what practice will be like this week for the Redskins. I beleive that things will be working better next week. It could not of happened at a better time before the Cowpukes game. I would say that the coaches will be working harder to get things straightened out. __________________ HTTR!

09-19-2004, 05:52 PM	#2
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Cooley has been a monster. THAT"S something that is working.

09-19-2004, 06:07 PM	#9
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	Sometimes you need a good ass-kicking to get focused, but this was a bit much

09-19-2004, 06:05 PM	#11
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Good question about Kenyatta. What's up? Man, we miss Jansen! __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-19-2004, 06:09 PM	#12
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	We've just got to get back to work, and fix this thing. Turnovers and drops can be fixed. If anyone can do it, it's Gibbs and Co. __________________ Hail from Houston!

09-19-2004, 06:12 PM	#13
redwagonskins Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 685	I guess 15-1 is pretty respectable.

09-19-2004, 06:17 PM	#14
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	yeah, we all saw what they did. and we saw our response. is the Eagles Oline better than ours? where'd McNabb get the time? TO that much better than Coles? Westbrook better than Portis? Will Allen was a chump last week, this week a monster. dropped balls, fumbles and ints means they were more physical than us. our O hasnt looked comfortable and in sync ONCE yet, doing both run and pass, not even in preseason. no denying. its OK for Gardner to be slow cuz he's a 'possession' type receiver, only he's never been able to reliably possess a damn thing. Coles is supposed to be a burner, but he's hurt and i haven't seen any space between him and any defender in a long time. Portis aint seeing daylight, he's slaming into opposing defenders and coughing it up. somethings up. time for Gibbs to use that famous ability to adjust only during the week, not just at halftime.

09-19-2004, 06:20 PM	#15
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	JW, unless you have a truly bad QB, Turnovers happen from losing the battle on the line sad to say.

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