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Old 08-26-2009, 06:39 PM   #1
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Two Guys, One Cut

So in some cases below, both players may make the team and in some cases neither may.

But let's suppose you had to make the call. If you had to make a decision today, which of the two guys would you cut?

Remember...this isn't how you think would be cut. This is who you would cut (and that, of course, would include putting someone on the practice squad)

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
I'd put Chase on the practice squad. He'll be starting for us in 2011 though

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Better the devil you know, cut Rayner

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
I can't find a spot for Mason, so I'll cut him. I really like what I saw of Dorsey the other day both as a back and especially on special teams

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
I'd cut Clark and maybe put Williams on the PUP list until mid-season

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd cut Thomas, I think Glenn can add special teams value. I had high hopes for Thomas this summer, but haven't seen much

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
I'd cut Wynn, give his playing time to Jarmon

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
I'd cut Westbrook because I haven't been able to figure what he offers beyond telling us his brother won't play against us
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:44 PM   #2
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Re: Two Guys, One Cut

Classy Title...:vomit: I will submit the following for cuts.

Colt...Suprised? Ask me later.

Dave

Both keep Rock

Mike

Thomas

All three

Westbrook
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:10 AM   #3
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Classy Title...:vomit: I will submit the following for cuts.

Colt...Suprised? Ask me later.

Dave

Both keep Rock

Mike

Thomas

All three

Westbrook
LOL. The first thing I thought of when I read the thread title. For those of you familiar with 2 Girls 1 Cup, the song below is absolutely hilarious.

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Old 08-27-2009, 10:25 AM   #4
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LOL. The first thing I thought of when I read the thread title. For those of you familiar with 2 Girls 1 Cup, the song below is absolutely hilarious.
you beat me to it. smooty is getting pretty creative with these titles
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Old 08-27-2009, 11:07 AM   #5
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Classy Title...:vomit: I will submit the following for cuts.

Colt...Suprised? Ask me later.

Dave

Both keep Rock

Mike

Thomas

All three

Westbrook
I did not even think of that title until YOU mentioned it...sicko.

Thankfully I have never seen this movie people are talking about and puking over. I'm not a masochist, so I've avoided it.

Well, maybe being a Skins fan during the 90s was being a bit masochistic, but that's a different story.

Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
Cut Chase, PS if possible.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Cut Shanksham

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Cut Mason, Dorsey can return kicks

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Cut Clark

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
Cut Glenn

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Cut Wynn hesitantly, great guy for many years, but a slowing 12-year vet vs. a promising guy with 1 season played...gotta plan for the future

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Cut Westbrook
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Old 08-26-2009, 06:53 PM   #6
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Re: Two Guys, One Cut

I had somehow managed to bury it away in my subconscious.

Now it awakes. The horror.

Keep-

Chase -seems like he is the first young QB to really get Jim Zorn.
Suish. - Least worse option
Dorsey and Rock
Williams
Glenn
None of the three(maybe Jackson)
Tryon - Least worst option

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Old 08-26-2009, 07:03 PM   #7
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Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
Eh. Colt cause he's old. Neither is necessarily deserving, but Chase Daniel has that 3-5% chance of becoming our franchise QB. If Colt gets his time next year, he'll already be 26 or 27. Can't develop that.

Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Dave Rayner because Suisham isn't ungodly awful on kickoffs and has decent accuracy numbers over his career.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)

Mason becuase Dorsey's value added on Punt Returns makes him valuable to us. Mason gives us an explosive runner out of the backfield, but there's no playing time on this team for someone like that.

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Both. I'd keep Edwin Williams instead as a backup C/G, and I'd make Rinehart the emergency LT.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd have to cut Glenn given this choice because Thomas seems like the only quailty backup WLB we have on the roster, but truth is, I'd maybe oust Fincher so that we could see a year of Glenn hitting people on special teams.

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Buzbee, I guess. I like the idea of having Wynn back up an injury prone player Daniels, so that they don't have to force Jarmon onto the field. Wynn is an easy mid-season cut if Jarmon earns his way onto the field, and I think Buzbee is still PS eligible. I like Jackson's development to this point too much to let him go before his second season.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Westbrook. Tryon hasn't shown much, but better to flash skill in practice than to not have it at all.
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Old 08-27-2009, 03:36 AM   #8
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Chase Daniel or Colt Brennan
Eh. Colt cause he's old. Neither is necessarily deserving, but Chase Daniel has that 3-5% chance of becoming our franchise QB. If Colt gets his time next year, he'll already be 26 or 27. Can't develop that.Shaun Suisham or Dave Rayner
Dave Rayner because Suisham isn't ungodly awful on kickoffs and has decent accuracy numbers over his career.

Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)

Mason becuase Dorsey's value added on Punt Returns makes him valuable to us. Mason gives us an explosive runner out of the backfield, but there's no playing time on this team for someone like that.

Devin Clark or Mike Williams
Both. I'd keep Edwin Williams instead as a backup C/G, and I'd make Rinehart the emergency LT.

Cody Glenn or Robert Thomas
I'd have to cut Glenn given this choice because Thomas seems like the only quailty backup WLB we have on the roster, but truth is, I'd maybe oust Fincher so that we could see a year of Glenn hitting people on special teams.

Renaldo Wynn or Alex Buzbee (I'll add Rob Jackson here)
Buzbee, I guess. I like the idea of having Wynn back up an injury prone player Daniels, so that they don't have to force Jarmon onto the field. Wynn is an easy mid-season cut if Jarmon earns his way onto the field, and I think Buzbee is still PS eligible. I like Jackson's development to this point too much to let him go before his second season.

Justin Tryon or Bryon Westbrook
Westbrook. Tryon hasn't shown much, but better to flash skill in practice than to not have it at all.
Isnt JC 27, soon to be 28 this December? So if he doesnt do it this yr another team shouldnt waste their time in hopes of "developing" his talents. COMEON MAN!!! . CB and JC are close in age,JC is a yr + a few months older so -IF- we did keep CB till next yr he would be on the same experience level in this offense and a yr younger. really no difference -experience and age wise- in what we are looking at now with JC.
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Isnt JC 27, soon to be 28 this December? So if he doesnt do it this yr another team shouldnt waste their time in hopes of "developing" his talents. COMEON MAN!!! . CB and JC are close in age,JC is a yr + a few months older so -IF- we did keep CB till next yr he would be on the same experience level in this offense and a yr younger. really no difference -experience and age wise- in what we are looking at now with JC.
Well, Campbell has been developed since 2005. September 13th is the end of that development stage and the beginning of his "prime". Colt's development stage would last until 2012, or roughly until he's 30.

That's assuming though, that Colt is normal like the rest of us. If he's super human, just play him now.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:44 PM   #10
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Marcus Mason or Domonique Dorsey (I'll add Rock Cartwright here)
Mason becuase Dorsey's value added on Punt Returns makes him valuable to us. Mason gives us an explosive runner out of the backfield, but there's no playing time on this team for someone like that.
For all the talk at the end of last year of how we needed a speedy change of pace back to compliment portis like a sproles, im surprised so many want to cut mason.

with that being said, id let the next 2 games decide whether to keep rock, mason or dorsey. i havent really gotten a chance to watch the preseason as much as i would like and i love rock's heart but id like to see a different name as our 3rd rb. last year zorn brought in alexander which may have been zorn doing him a professional favor by allowing him to audition for other nfl teams or be an indication he doesnt want to rely on the rock if injuries hit hard.

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Old 08-27-2009, 12:52 PM   #11
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For all the talk at the end of last year of how we needed a speedy change of pace back to compliment portis like a sproles, im surprised so many want to cut mason.

with that being said, id let the next 2 games decide whether to keep rock, mason or dorsey. i havent really gotten a chance to watch the preseason as much as i would like and i love rock's heart but id like to see a different name as our 3rd rb. last year zorn brought in alexander which may have been zorn doing him a professional favor by allowing him to audition for other nfl teams or be an indication he doesnt want to rely on the rock if injuries hit hard.

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Good point, but I think it comes down to the economy of roster spots. If we keep either Mason or Dorsey, then we can't keep Eddie Williams, a 6th receiver (Hackett?), or a 10th lineman (Mike Williams?). So if you do keep that 4th RB, you want to make sure that he has a role on a team where both Portis and Betts are healthy AND have the ability to be a change of pace back if one should get hurt.

Which is why Dorsey makes sense IMO. Mason has a huge playing role in the second scenario, but is more of an inactive player type in the first.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:08 PM   #12
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Good point, but I think it comes down to the economy of roster spots. If we keep either Mason or Dorsey, then we can't keep Eddie Williams, a 6th receiver (Hackett?), or a 10th lineman (Mike Williams?). So if you do keep that 4th RB, you want to make sure that he has a role on a team where both Portis and Betts are healthy AND have the ability to be a change of pace back if one should get hurt.

Which is why Dorsey makes sense IMO. Mason has a huge playing role in the second scenario, but is more of an inactive player type in the first.
Agreed. I hope in the next couple of games Dorsey gets more work both as a returner and in the backfield.
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Old 08-27-2009, 12:58 PM   #13
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For all the talk at the end of last year of how we needed a speedy change of pace back to compliment portis like a sproles, im surprised so many want to cut mason.
I would think Dorsey is a lot more like Sproles than Mason is
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I would think Dorsey is a lot more like Sproles than Mason is
I'd agree.

Mason isn't what I would call a change of pace back.

If we keep one of these guys, Dorsey makes a lot more sense since he can play teams.
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I would think Dorsey is a lot more like Sproles than Mason is
yeah thats what i thought too. just havent watched enough for me to make a somewhat informed opinion.

gtripp - as much as i hate saying this i would cut rock to make the roster space. i've been a huge rock fan ever since he personally apologized to the whole locker room after fumbling the ball on the goaline against the cowboys years ago. showed real heart and accountability but i think his time with the skins may be over even if he is a skin at heart.

on special teams rock returns kick offs by running full steam ahead which i assume dorsey can do just as well since thats, to my understanding, why we broght him here from the cfl.

but can dorsey make tackles on special teams coverage?
is rock the vocal leader and on-field coach of the special teams coverage?
if dorsey does ST coverage, will the man's body hold up to the beating and still stay explosive?
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