Where are Kelly & Thomas?

[dmvskinzfan08]

I remember at the beginning of the season. All the football experts and analysts were saying a key to the Redskins season was one of the 2nd round pick receivers stepping up. At first the front runner was Thomas. The reports were that he worked with JC through out the off season to get better and more prepared for the season. Ironically, Kelly took over the second WR spot after hardly playing last year. Saying that, Kelly still hasn't showed all this ball snatching potential he was touted for in the off season. In preseason Marko really shined. Some say it was just preseason and that it doesn't translate to the regular season. But it seems that Kelly and Thomas have been no existent. I think that the coaching staff has really lost confidence in them. As well as JC.

On the pass that was intended for Kelly that ended up being a INT. I didn't see proper positioning and efffort in him going up for the ball. He went for it at an awkward angle and allowed a smaller DB force him to the sidelines before the play on the ball. This guy is 6'3 and didn't extend properly for a jump ball effort. That INT was on JC. But when you look at taller receivers like Calvin Johnson and Randy Moss. They go up and snatch the ball from smaller DBs. My thoughts were that was the reason we drafted him. I have also heard that he is not getting separation from the defenders.

Is it premature to think that Mitchell should be bumped up on the depth chart since he has a nack for catching touchdowns and also has more speed for separation?

We wonder why our offense is looking the same as it has last year. Most of the blame has been on JC. But shouldn't the 2nd year WRs be held accountable also? They have been no existent. So basically my whole point is that we are back to where we were before we drafted them. Moss Cooley and ARE as our options!! On that note Fred Davis has been non-existent also. So where do you think we should go from here. Please chime in...

[SFREDSKIN]

This is the same thing I've been posting about. Don't forget Davis. I've been saying bench either Thomas or Kelly and start Marko Mitchell.

[Counter-Tre]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

This is the same thing I've been posting about. Don't forget Davis. I've been saying bench either Thomas or Kelly and start Marko Mitchell.

Davis, I just don't understand wasting on him.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by Counter-Tre

Davis, I just don't understand wasting on him.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post602886

[skinsfaninok]

MARKO MITCHELL is the answer please start him!!

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by dmvskinzfan08

We wonder why our offense is looking the same as it has last year. Most of the blame has been on JC. But shouldn't the 2nd year WRs be held accountable also? They have been no existent. So basically my whole point is that we are back to where we were before we drafted them. Moss Cooley and ARE as our options!! On that note Fred Davis has been non-existent also. So where do you think we should go from here. Please chime in...

Oh I didn't forget him either.

[diehard]

I thought we'd see Thomas more as PR/KR but, Mitchell has to be given a shot eventually. Kelly is coming along. This is his rookie campaign unlike Thomas.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by diehard

I thought we'd see Thomas more as PR/KR but, Mitchell has to be given a shot eventually. Kelly is coming along. This is his rookie campaign unlike Thomas.

Yeah I think Thomas should be used more on returns because we havne't really been making any noise in that part of the game. It is his rookie campaign so to speak but he did play last year. Not a lot but he did play. But basic thigns liek going up for a ball or swatting it away from a defender shoudl be skills he already possesses as a receiver. pretty basic. he is like 6'3-6'4. Another thing is he is kinda slow getting out of breaks and doesn't create separation. You can't teach speed. He is more of a possession receiver.

[dgack]

I've read a number of analyses that suggest that Davis is actually doing serious work as a blocker so he's at least contributing.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by dgack

I've read a number of analyses that suggest that Davis is actually doing serious work as a blocker so he's at least contributing.

True. He is allowing Cooley to go out more. Good point!! We will give him a pass..lol

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by dgack

I've read a number of analyses that suggest that Davis is actually doing serious work as a blocker so he's at least contributing.

From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)

For all his height, Kelly really struggles with those fade or lob patterns. They should be throwing more passes over the middle to him. Catch, turn, and run.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)

For all his height, Kelly really struggles with those fade or lob patterns. They should be throwing more passes over the middle to him. Catch, turn, and run.

I agree we should use Kelly on those type of patterns as more of a possession receiver. This was how he was mostly used in preseason. Go to the first down marker and psot in front of a smaller receiver than run. On pass that was intercepted yesterday Kelly didn't have the speed and was forced to the sidelines. He does not use his frame well in that respect. On routes were speed is a factor in creating separation or deep routes. I think Mitchell is the man for that job.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)

For all his height, Kelly really struggles with those fade or lob patterns. They should be throwing more passes over the middle to him. Catch, turn, and run.

Well so far this season I have not seen one pass from JC that really gave Kelly a chance to go up and get the ball over the defender. As for Campbell I don't think he does a very good job of surveying the field and tend to lock on to one guy.

[mlmpetert]

[quote=SmootSmack;602890]From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)
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It drives me nuts that Yoder is on in place of Davis and Rock / ARE is returning kicks in place of Thomas. ARE isnt working at returning punts give someone else a try. There is room for impovment on kick off returns, give someone else a try.

Why has Marko Mitchell been inactive for 2 games now? I guess its either 4 rbs (including Mike Sellers) or 5 wrs? Thomas and Kelly are not making a impact on the field so give someone else a try!

[dmvskinzfan08]

[quote=mlmpetert;602942]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

From what I've seen this year there is no reason for Yoder to ever be on the field when Davis can be there instead (and I'm not just saying that because of Yoder's missed block yesterday). Davis is an effective blocker and can't emerge as a threat in the passing game if he's sitting on the sidelines. I was really questioning the decision to draft him but I think he may actually be the closest to making a significant impact.

Devin Thomas should be returning kicks, and I see him getting open but he's often the 4th (at best) option. Campbell just doesn't have the time to check off that many receivers. Until Moss or ARE is off this roster, it appears that Thomas' touches will most come somewhat unconventionally for a receiver (returns, reverses)
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It drives me nuts that Yoder is on in place of Davis and Rock / ARE is returning kicks in place of Thomas. ARE isnt working at returning punts give someone else a try. There is room for impovment on kick off returns, give someone else a try.

Why has Marko Mitchell been inactive for 2 games now? I guess its either 4 rbs (including Mike Sellers) or 5 wrs? Thomas and Kelly are not making a impact on the field so give someone else a try!

Better yet why did we bring Alridge back? To add to that we are trying out Chris Henry..wtf?

So how many backs are we going to carry now? 6? And 50% of them can't run..lol. How about we bring in a OL? Hmmm..Ponder that..lol

We should have gotten rid of Betts and Rock. I am really beginning to question the FO now..