Week 5: Highs and Lows

tdSKINS1 · 10-11-2009, 08:00 PM

"What to say... what to say? A pretty embarrassing game if you ask me. I guess I'm at the point now where even though it is week 5 and yes we are 2-3 and of course there is always a chance to rebound that there is no way this team will get better. What you see is what you get with the Redskins and I see no signs of improvement anytime soon. Here are my highs and lows of Week 5.." Read more at
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SUNRA · 10-11-2009, 09:46 PM

I think Todd Collins gets the nod after another loss to a winless team. Collins is 4-0 in regular season and understands the west coast offense better than most QB's. Campbells' contract will not be extended so cut your'e losses now.

44Deezel · 10-11-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

I think Todd Collins gets the nod after another loss to a winless team. Collins is 4-0 in regular season and understands the west coast offense better than most QB's. Campbells' contract will not be extended so cut your'e losses now.

Yeah, put Collins in. Why not? Campbell is not the answer and won't be pursued by any of the other 31 teams in the league, except for backup duty. It's not entirely his fault, but he's the 1 guy who touches the ball on every Offensive play. He gets the credit when they win and the blame when they lose... goes with the territory. There's no reason they shouldn't be willing to make a change at ANY position. QB is no different.

skins89moss · 10-12-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yeah, put Collins in. Why not? Campbell is not the answer and won't be pursued by any of the other 31 teams in the league, except for backup duty. It's not entirely his fault, but he's the 1 guy who touches the ball on every Offensive play. He gets the credit when they win and the blame when they lose... goes with the territory. There's no reason they shouldn't be willing to make a change at ANY position. QB is no different.

We put Collins with no mobility he will be killed with the garbage O-Line we have. He will have to hold the ball cause our WR dont get open he cant move it will be ugly quickly for him.

44Deezel · 10-12-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skins89moss

We put Collins with no mobility he will be killed with the garbage O-Line we have. He will have to hold the ball cause our WR dont get open he cant move it will be ugly quickly for him.

Uglier than 198 yards of total Offense against the winless Panthers? And the O-line was pathetic until Collins came in a few years ago. Then they were miraculously good when Collins came in and started passing the ball with quickness and precision. But you're probably right. With this round of injuries, the O line problems are probably too much to overcome at this point. Season over.

Redskin Warrior · 10-12-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Uglier than 198 yards of total Offense against the winless Panthers? And the O-line was pathetic until Collins came in a few years ago. Then they were miraculously good when Collins came in and started passing the ball with quickness and precision. But you're probably right. With this round of injuries, the O line problems are probably too much to overcome at this point. Season over.

Well for one like i posted before TC excelled in Saunders offense this offense we are in is totally different and about 450 pages short of Saunders. Secondly, the o-line was better back then Dock played a lot better in his first sting with the skins. Thomas was there so was Jansen, so there are some huge differences in then and now. In conclusion TC is hella i mean hella slow not mobile if the line breaks down like it did today we would be worse off. The season isn't over for us just yet Tennesse's season is over at 0-5 not so much at 2-3.

firstdown · 10-12-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by skins89moss

We put Collins with no mobility he will be killed with the garbage O-Line we have. He will have to hold the ball cause our WR dont get open he cant move it will be ugly quickly for him.

Or maybe he will see whats coming and take what the D is giving him.

Redskin Warrior · 10-12-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Or maybe he will see whats coming and take what the D is giving him.

Oh you mean the check downs like JC does bc not one is open, or bc the line can provide enough protection for his WR routes to develop oh no he would become a dink & donk QB then?

Longtimefan · 10-11-2009, 11:17 PM

Offense: Turned 2 TO's into 2 TD's - Scoring in the red-zone has been a problem all season, today being the exception.

Running game: Portis once again failed to exceede 100yds. rushing.

Passing game: QB had good pass completion percentage/good QB rating/all for less than 200yds. passing. Overall offense lacks imagination, and the ability to create for itself when plays break down, some of which can be attributed to an inept OL.

Defense: Played solid but uneven at times. Tackling continues to be a problem.

Special Teams: Forced fumble led to first score - Gave up one long return - Misplayed punt late in game which contributed to a Carolina score. Call them "medium" for the day, what they gave in the first qtr. they took back in the 4th.

Thomas, Davis and Kelly got slightly involved, results, sporadic at best would be the way I would characterize their efforts.

BL: Team lacks consistency across the board.

53Fan · 10-11-2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Offense: Turned 2 TO's into 2 TD's - Scoring in the red-zone has been a problem all season, today being the exception.

Running game: Portis once again failed to exceede 100yds. rushing.

Passing game: QB had good pass completion percentage/good QB rating/all for less than 200yds. passing. Overall offense lacks imagination, and the ability to create for itself when plays break down, some of which can be attributed to an inept OL.

Defense: Played solid but uneven at times. Tackling continues to be a problem.

Special Teams: Forced fumble led to first score - Gave up one long return - Misplayed punt late in game which contributed to a Carolina score. Call them "medium" for the day, what they gave in the first qtr. they took back in the 4th.

Thomas, Davis and Kelly got slightly involved, results, sporadic at best would be the way I would characterize their efforts.

BL: Team lacks consistency across the board.

Well put. That about sums it up.

firstdown · 10-12-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Offense: Turned 2 TO's into 2 TD's - Scoring in the red-zone has been a problem all season, today being the exception.

Running game: Portis once again failed to exceede 100yds. rushing.

Passing game: QB had good pass completion percentage/good QB rating/all for less than 200yds. passing. Overall offense lacks imagination, and the ability to create for itself when plays break down, some of which can be attributed to an inept OL.

Defense: Played solid but uneven at times. Tackling continues to be a problem.

Special Teams: Forced fumble led to first score - Gave up one long return - Misplayed punt late in game which contributed to a Carolina score. Call them "medium" for the day, what they gave in the first qtr. they took back in the 4th.

Thomas, Davis and Kelly got slightly involved, results, sporadic at best would be the way I would characterize their efforts.

BL: Team lacks consistency across the board.

Your right today was exception because the O could not even get into the red zone and they had to rely on the D for that.

GTripp0012 · 10-12-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by firstdown

Your right today was exception because the O could not even get into the red zone and they had to rely on the D for that.

This comment suggests you do actually realize that one unit can be responsible for points scored/prevented by the other.

It was nice to have the D finally contribute to the scoring. Technically, the defensive touchdown-less streak is now at 31 games, but that Hall return is as close to a defensive TD as you will get without getting one.

Now, if only the special teams would come play nice, we would have actually won a game in spite of the offense. Alas, when you are overall mediocre in defense + special teams, you have to rely on some contribution from the offense. And in this game, there just wasn't much.

tdSKINS1 · 10-11-2009, 11:43 PM

I hate to say this but right now nothing seems to work. Why not just put in Collins? I'm not saying Jason is the main problem at all but maybe the team needs some sort of spark like that. It worked last time we changed.

44Deezel · 10-12-2009, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tdSKINS1

I hate to say this but right now nothing seems to work. Why not just put in Collins? I'm not saying Jason is the main problem at all but maybe the team needs some sort of spark like that. It worked last time we changed.

QB is the one position that affects change everywhere. Couldn't hurt. If McNabb can be benched, so can Campbell. Who knows. Maybe the team will rally around JC like the Eagles did around McNabb last year.

redskinsgirl · 10-12-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Deezel

QB is the one position that affects change everywhere. Couldn't hurt. If McNabb can be benched, so can Campbell. Who knows. Maybe the team will rally around JC like the Eagles did around McNabb last year.

I think the Eagles "rally" had more to do with Andy Reid improved playcalling in the second half of the season than McNabb getting bench.

What is the point of benching JC if Zorn's playcalling doesn't improve?

10-11-2009, 08:00 PM	#1
tdSKINS1 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Altavista Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 712	Week 5: Highs and Lows "What to say... what to say? A pretty embarrassing game if you ask me. I guess I'm at the point now where even though it is week 5 and yes we are 2-3 and of course there is always a chance to rebound that there is no way this team will get better. What you see is what you get with the Redskins and I see no signs of improvement anytime soon. Here are my highs and lows of Week 5.." Read more at The Trevor Haupt Blog __________________ #21 Never Forget HOKIES!

10-11-2009, 09:46 PM	#2
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: Week 5: Highs and Lows I think Todd Collins gets the nod after another loss to a winless team. Collins is 4-0 in regular season and understands the west coast offense better than most QB's. Campbells' contract will not be extended so cut your'e losses now. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-11-2009, 11:17 PM	#9
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Week 5: Highs and Lows Offense: Turned 2 TO's into 2 TD's - Scoring in the red-zone has been a problem all season, today being the exception. Running game: Portis once again failed to exceede 100yds. rushing. Passing game: QB had good pass completion percentage/good QB rating/all for less than 200yds. passing. Overall offense lacks imagination, and the ability to create for itself when plays break down, some of which can be attributed to an inept OL. Defense: Played solid but uneven at times. Tackling continues to be a problem. Special Teams: Forced fumble led to first score - Gave up one long return - Misplayed punt late in game which contributed to a Carolina score. Call them "medium" for the day, what they gave in the first qtr. they took back in the 4th. Thomas, Davis and Kelly got slightly involved, results, sporadic at best would be the way I would characterize their efforts. BL: Team lacks consistency across the board.

10-11-2009, 11:43 PM	#13
tdSKINS1 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Altavista Virginia Age: 35 Posts: 712	Re: Week 5: Highs and Lows I hate to say this but right now nothing seems to work. Why not just put in Collins? I'm not saying Jason is the main problem at all but maybe the team needs some sort of spark like that. It worked last time we changed. __________________ #21 Never Forget HOKIES!

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