Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)

SmootSmack · 10-11-2009, 08:42 PM

With apologies to DCPSR, I didn't want to wait to lay the smack down. So I'm going to temporarily divert from the new plan and post it directly on here today.

Let's get right to it. Time to lay the smack down

Jim Zorn Raise your hand if you're secretly hoping we keep losing up until the bye week just to end this failed Zorn as HC experiment and put us all out of our misery. Seriously though, I'm obviously not rooting for a Redskins loss ever, but Zorn is way overmatched. No timeouts with 8 minutes left that's poor coaching in my opinion. Especially the 4th down timeout. Always know before 3rd down what you would do on the 4th down. Nice guy it seems, and I hope he continues to have success in the NFL, but this just isn't the place for him.

Stephon Heyer Wow. I mean just wow. That "block" on the safety may just have been the ugliest block I've ever seen in football. That was u-g-l-y...and he ain't got no alibi

Byron Westbrook This is like Special Teams 101. Don't get blocked into your own guy. Especially when he's the returner trying to make a fair catch with the lead in the 4th quarter. Westbrook's second special teams mistake this year (at least), following the whiff on Hunter's beautiful punt inside the 5 against the Giants

DeAngelo Hall Nice job with the INT but how do you let Jake Delhomme go Allen Iverson 2002 on you and break your ankles on a 3rd and 8? You got posterized by Delhomme...on a running play? Sad dude, sad

President Joe Gibbs Say what? You're going to hate on Gibbs? Saint Gibbs? Blasphemous! It's all Vinny's fault....Let's get this straight. Huge, Kim Kardashian's derrier-huge Gibbs fan. But before we get on Vinny for not drafting linemen let's not forget it was Gibbs who was in charge who called for us to trade a 3rd and a 4th for Brandon Lloyd and a 3rd for TJ Duckett. With some more picks maybe we could have done more to address our needs.

Thinking Orakpo wasn't a good draft pick Ridiculous. Orakpo was a great, great pick. He will be a beast of a pass rusher. And if we hadn't drafted him there'd be chants of "why didn't we draft a pass rusher" Drafting Orakpo wasn't the problem. But not giving him more playing time at DE where he can actually rush the passer probably is.

Browns vs. Bills Just wanted to throw this in here because it was so horrible. Derek Anderson goes 2-17. 2-17. And he was the winning QB!

So what now? Well, who really knows. I guess the big question is how soon until Mike Shanahan takes over. Forget all this talk about Shanny not coming here. If we want him bad enough, we'll get him. In my opinion, to sign him mid-season we have to offer him a lot. A lot! Head coach, president, general manager, probably some ownership stake. Shanahan in charge of personnel scares me. But it could easily happen. And it probably will. Personally, I'd rather just ride out the season and get a Bruce Allen, Reggie McKenzie, type and pair him up with a Russ Grimm, Brian Schottenheimer or even Kyle Shanahan. Either way, things look bleak right now.

GTripp0012 · 10-11-2009, 08:46 PM

Derek Anderson is gritty though, and a division champion.

Or at least I was assuming. I was in a coma for the final three games of the 2007 season.

redsk1 · 10-11-2009, 08:52 PM

This was a complete organizational loss. Yes, i believe Kevin Sheehan on the postgame said this, but I concur.

How so? Our depth is bad, our coaching is not going to out scheme any other team, and the FO chose the coach who can't outscheme anyone.

I think we need to blow up about 50% of this team. First we gotta bring in a football guy, as our GM.

This game is not on JC but damn, good qb's make up for bad o lines more often than not. Our o line play was putrid though. Horrible. Again, no depth, wasteful draft picks, picks given away that could provide depth.

We basically scored 3 pts if it weren't for our defense. It's really hard to sit and watch this year in and year out. Of course i'll continue to watch but it's just really hard.

SirClintonPortis · 10-11-2009, 09:01 PM

Antoine Winfield would have pancaked Delhomme. Hall is soft.

GMScud · 10-11-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Antoine Winfield would have pancaked Delhomme. Hall is soft.

Antoine Winfield is probably my favorite CB to watch play. He's awesome. Fast, VERY physical, great ball skills, excellent in coverage. He's a complete player. Hall is fast with great ball skills. That's about it.

Green1 · 10-11-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Antoine Winfield would have pancaked Delhomme. Hall is soft.

Smoot or Rogers would have made that play easily. This is not the first time he missed a important tackle

WaldSkins · 10-11-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Green1

Smoot or Rogers would have made that play easily. This is not the first time he missed a important tackle

I can't believe we are putting all this blame on Hall for this one play. We had two TD drives that were set up by turnovers(one was by Hall). Our offense had a total of 198 yards. Maybe that had something to do with the loss?????

SmootSmack · 10-11-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I can't believe we are putting all this blame on Hall for this one play. We had two TD drives that were set up by turnovers(one was by Hall). Our offense had a total of 198 yards. Maybe that had something to do with the loss?????

I'm not putting the blame on Hall at all. But I am putting the blame on him for that one important play

WaldSkins · 10-11-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'm not putting the blame on Hall at all. But I am putting the blame on him for that one important play

No he screwed up big time on that final play. But it seems like everyone is suggesting that if we get the ball back, we were going to run down the field for a score even though we couldn't move the ball all day.

By the way i'm glad you posted the Smackdown on the warpath. Yeah i know it was only one additional click but somethings are better left untouched.

SouperMeister · 10-13-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Antoine Winfield would have pancaked Delhomme. Hall is soft.

Imagine what #21 would have done to him. It would have been like his slobberknocker of a hit on the helpless punter in the Pro Bowl. Hall should be ashamed of that effort.

53Fan · 10-13-2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Imagine what #21 would have done to him. It would have been like his slobberknocker of a hit on the helpless punter in the Pro Bowl. Hall should be ashamed of that effort.

Delhomme would have just fallen down.

GTripp0012 · 10-11-2009, 09:08 PM

Hall has lived up to his past billing. He's probably been better in his 12 games for us then he has been at any 12 game stretch in his career.

You could argue that we got our money's worth, but certainly we're getting everything we could have possibly hoped for out of Hall. 3 picks in 5 games is a great, if unsustainable, rate.

Daseal · 10-11-2009, 09:08 PM

I think Hall screwed up there, but Hall also saved the TD on 4th and goal on the 1. Definitely needs props for that.

wolfeskins · 10-11-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Hall screwed up there, but Hall also saved the TD on 4th and goal on the 1. Definitely needs props for that.

yea, hall got schooled on that 3rd and 8 play but overall, hall has not been a disappointment.

dmvskinzfan08 · 10-12-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

I think Hall screwed up there, but Hall also saved the TD on 4th and goal on the 1. Definitely needs props for that.

Do you remember a time when we used to swarm to the ball not just watch our team mates make the play by themselves? That was one thing we did under Gregg Williams. I remember him teaching that. Does anyone remember this but me? If you swram to the ball that doesn't happen and a lot of miss tackles don't end up being touchdowns if you swarm to the ball.

10-11-2009, 08:42 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) With apologies to DCPSR, I didn't want to wait to lay the smack down. So I'm going to temporarily divert from the new plan and post it directly on here today. Let's get right to it. Time to lay the smack down Jim Zorn Raise your hand if you're secretly hoping we keep losing up until the bye week just to end this failed Zorn as HC experiment and put us all out of our misery. Seriously though, I'm obviously not rooting for a Redskins loss ever, but Zorn is way overmatched. No timeouts with 8 minutes left that's poor coaching in my opinion. Especially the 4th down timeout. Always know before 3rd down what you would do on the 4th down. Nice guy it seems, and I hope he continues to have success in the NFL, but this just isn't the place for him. Stephon Heyer Wow. I mean just wow. That "block" on the safety may just have been the ugliest block I've ever seen in football. That was u-g-l-y...and he ain't got no alibi Byron Westbrook This is like Special Teams 101. Don't get blocked into your own guy. Especially when he's the returner trying to make a fair catch with the lead in the 4th quarter. Westbrook's second special teams mistake this year (at least), following the whiff on Hunter's beautiful punt inside the 5 against the Giants DeAngelo Hall Nice job with the INT but how do you let Jake Delhomme go Allen Iverson 2002 on you and break your ankles on a 3rd and 8? You got posterized by Delhomme...on a running play? Sad dude, sad President Joe Gibbs Say what? You're going to hate on Gibbs? Saint Gibbs? Blasphemous! It's all Vinny's fault....Let's get this straight. Huge, Kim Kardashian's derrier-huge Gibbs fan. But before we get on Vinny for not drafting linemen let's not forget it was Gibbs who was in charge who called for us to trade a 3rd and a 4th for Brandon Lloyd and a 3rd for TJ Duckett. With some more picks maybe we could have done more to address our needs. Thinking Orakpo wasn't a good draft pick Ridiculous. Orakpo was a great, great pick. He will be a beast of a pass rusher. And if we hadn't drafted him there'd be chants of "why didn't we draft a pass rusher" Drafting Orakpo wasn't the problem. But not giving him more playing time at DE where he can actually rush the passer probably is. Browns vs. Bills Just wanted to throw this in here because it was so horrible. Derek Anderson goes 2-17. 2-17. And he was the winning QB! So what now? Well, who really knows. I guess the big question is how soon until Mike Shanahan takes over. Forget all this talk about Shanny not coming here. If we want him bad enough, we'll get him. In my opinion, to sign him mid-season we have to offer him a lot. A lot! Head coach, president, general manager, probably some ownership stake. Shanahan in charge of personnel scares me. But it could easily happen. And it probably will. Personally, I'd rather just ride out the season and get a Bruce Allen, Reggie McKenzie, type and pair him up with a Russ Grimm, Brian Schottenheimer or even Kyle Shanahan. Either way, things look bleak right now. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-11-2009, 08:52 PM	#3
redsk1 The Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,351	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) This was a complete organizational loss. Yes, i believe Kevin Sheehan on the postgame said this, but I concur. How so? Our depth is bad, our coaching is not going to out scheme any other team, and the FO chose the coach who can't outscheme anyone. I think we need to blow up about 50% of this team. First we gotta bring in a football guy, as our GM. This game is not on JC but damn, good qb's make up for bad o lines more often than not. Our o line play was putrid though. Horrible. Again, no depth, wasteful draft picks, picks given away that could provide depth. We basically scored 3 pts if it weren't for our defense. It's really hard to sit and watch this year in and year out. Of course i'll continue to watch but it's just really hard.

10-11-2009, 09:01 PM	#4
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) Antoine Winfield would have pancaked Delhomme. Hall is soft.

10-11-2009, 09:08 PM	#12
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) Hall has lived up to his past billing. He's probably been better in his 12 games for us then he has been at any 12 game stretch in his career. You could argue that we got our money's worth, but certainly we're getting everything we could have possibly hoped for out of Hall. 3 picks in 5 games is a great, if unsustainable, rate. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

10-11-2009, 09:08 PM	#13
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) I think Hall screwed up there, but Hall also saved the TD on 4th and goal on the 1. Definitely needs props for that. __________________ Best. Player. Available.

10-11-2009, 08:46 PM	#2
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers) Derek Anderson is gritty though, and a division champion. Or at least I was assuming. I was in a coma for the final three games of the 2007 season. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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