DeAngelo Hall Questions Our Personnel Strategy

[SmootSmack]

When asked if the Redskins could afford any more injuries, Hall took on the issue of the team's depth.

"Nah, not at all, not at all," he said. "Chris Samuels going down was a devastating loss for us, you know, devastating. We go from having a what, four-, five-, six-time Pro Bowler in there to a guy who hardly has played in this league. Not saying anything to Batiste, he was with me in Atlanta for a little while, but that's a big drop-off, that's a big drop-off. And heading into the offseason and preseason we said we needed to address the offensive line.

"We felt like we did get better ... but that's a position where you can always get better. You can always have proven guys out there backing other guys up that have played in this league, have had starts in this league. That's something we're lacking."

Redskins Insider - Hall: 'I Don't Know If We've Got the Right Personnel'

[Slingin Sammy 33]

And a veteran CB who doesn't bite on big-time sucker plays and can tackle a immobile QB in his mid-30s would be nice to have too.

[Schneed10]

See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.

And by extension, Zorn is an indictment of Snyderatto. They were forced to hire Zorn because, quite frankly, no one else would take the job. No one else would take the job, because no one wants to work under the existing front office structure.

Zorn seems like a nice guy. I don't fault him for failing as a head coach any more than I fault Batiste (and last year Justin Geisinger) for getting lit up when forced to play left tackle. CP said it best yesterday on the John Thompson Show - you can't blame a guy (referring to Batiste) when he's giving it everything he's got. I beleive Zorn is giving the job everything he's got. Its just simply not good enough. Zorn worked with Holmgren for the better part of a decade and he never got promoted above being a QB coach. No one else even interviewed him for an OC position - yet Daniel Snyder made him a head coach in one of the toughest divisions in football. Go figure.

As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

And by extension, Zorn is an indictment of Snyderatto. They were forced to hire Zorn because, quite frankly, no one else would take the job. No one else would take the job, because no one wants to work under the existing front office structure.

Zorn seems like a nice guy. I don't fault him for failing as a head coach any more than I fault Batiste (and last year Justin Geisinger) for getting lit up when forced to play left tackle. CP said it best yesterday on the John Thompson Show - you can't blame a guy (referring to Batiste) when he's giving it everything he's got. I beleive Zorn is giving the job everything he's got. Its just simply not good enough. Zorn worked with Holmgren for the better part of a decade and he never got promoted above being a QB coach. No one else even interviewed him for an OC position - yet Daniel Snyder made him a head coach in one of the toughest divisions in football. Go figure.

As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.

I totally agree, and I think this is where I part with the masses. I don't mind and don't care if these guys are calling out the coach and other players. As long as they're not being disrespectful in their tone, I don't really care. How many times have we seen the Giants overcome locker room controversy and players speaking out and go kick ass on Sunday. During the pre-season we thought the Brandon Marshall fiasco was going to sink the Broncos. It didn't. This team looks poised to be a serious playoff contender.

I just think the notion that a player voicing his opinion, publicly, and stirring the waters a little bit is overblown.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

As to Hall's comments - honestly, I don't mind them. In fact, I'm happy he's telling it like it is. This team is falling apart at the seams and this is just further evidence of it. Hopefully, things will continue to unravel and, at some point, Snyder will realize the front office structure has to change. So I applaud Hall. No amount of interceptions he catches will do this franchise more good than the words he's speaking now.

So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.

Rob, I kinda want to clarify my point. I don't condone Hall calling out his teammates, I just don't think it has a damaging affect and splits the locker room like the media and most fans portray. That's where I'm coming from. I also think most players show their true stripes when the going get's tough. We're just seeing the real D.Hall, as far as I'm concerned.

What is troubling to me is that there seems to be a brewing consensus among the players that things ain't right at Redskins Park. And they're tired of pointing fingers at just the guys wearing the uniforms.

Sad to say the only thing the cures strife within team is winning.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by RobH4413

So it's okay to call your teammate, who needs your support because he is being placed in a new starting role, a huge downgrade? I really think those comments are absurd. I'm honestly mortified by them. Use your common sense, don't be an asshole, and do what's best for the team.

Not only do I not applaud Hall, but If I were a coach I would sit his ass out a series or two. After your seasons over, you can open up a lot more, but mid season? Unreal. I'm embarrassed for him.

man.. it's not like that

he's just saying when you go from a multiple pro bowl guy to someone who isn't you have worries.. putting a TE to help every play said everything that Hall did and more

God forbid our players be frustrated with the situation that they have and actually point out reasons why we may be struggling

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

See, DHall is completely right. So is Rogers when talking about personnel. But I hate seeing these guys say it publicly, and in my mind that's an indictment of Zorn.

Gibbs had the team running like a tight-knit family, you aired your issues in-house, and you didn't take it to the media. The inference in DHall's comments is that Anthony Batiste sucks ass. It's totally the truth, but it's totally not cool to suggest that in the media. That causes rifts in the locker room and only serves to drive the team apart.

Zorn clearly is not the leader of men that Gibbs was. This stuff never happened with Gibbs, even though the depth problems were the exact same.

Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.

While that tackle attempt was pathetic, he is right in saying that

[MTK]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

While that tackle attempt was pathetic, he is right in saying that

Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.

The talk is just an extension of what's going on. There's going to be something to talk about all week long... just like we do here on this board.

Snyder will either say damn I've even got my players doing this.. or he'll say we're never re-signing this guy..

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Everyone is talking right now. Portis, Rogers, Hall, etc. I think everyone needs to circle the wagons and get shit figured out on the field. The talk is getting old.

Completely agree with you. But missed tackle aside wouldn't you say that D Hall is actually playing well so far this season??

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah it's just another sign of how dysfunctional the team is under Zorn. He's got no control. He's done.

Portis and Hall might be right bout what they say to reporters, shouldnt stop them getting fined for the detrimental to team observations. Like Matty said, tackle the freaking quarterback on the most important play of the game then say something.
I'm all happy bout him making that interception but its not like he made a great play, the receiver mishandled the ball and it went right to Hall.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Zerohero

Portis and Hall might be right bout what they say to reporters, shouldnt stop them getting fined for the detrimental to team observations. Like Matty said, tackle the freaking quarterback on the most important play of the game then say something.
I'm all happy bout him making that interception but its not like he made a great play, the receiver mishandled the ball and it went right to Hall.

He picked the ball off and ran it to the one inch line...that's not great, but it ain't that bad either. Carlos Rogers would have dropped that ball.

Anyway, this is the problem with the lack of leadership in this team. The only players speaking out are the CB that was in the doghouse last year and can't hold on to a pick to save his life, and the other player speaking out is the overpaid CB that couldn't tackle Delhomme and is hated by just about everyone.