Steve Largent rips Snyder's handling of the team

[SFREDSKIN]

Washington Redskins, Dan Snyder ripped by Steve Largent - ESPN

[freddyg12]

that'll get danny's attention. usually it's just media types that say that much

[MTK]

I really don't think it was Snyder's decision to take away the play calling from Zorn.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I really don't think it was Snyder's decision to take away the play calling from Zorn.

Perhaps he didn't dream up the idea, but he surely endorsed it.

"but they went to the point of pulling out his contract and saying, 'You have got to do whatever the owner tells you to do.' ...

This organization is out of control. It is amazing that as good a business man Snyder is, he can't see that this thing is spiraling beyond repair. Six head coaches and as many offensive schemes in ten years. All the big names, but never a solid plan for the future...now we have got to the point where the Bingo guy is calling the plays after being on board for two weeks...what a joke this franchise has become. I wouldn't be surprised if the players just quit on Monday night, and the stadium is empty by half time.

I'm almost embarrased to admit I'm a fan these days, and I honestly thought I would never say that.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Perhaps he didn't dream up the idea, but he surely endorsed it.

"but they went to the point of pulling out his contract and saying, 'You have got to do whatever the owner tells you to do.' ...

This organization is out of control. It is amazing that as good a business man Snyder is, he can't see that this thing is spiraling beyond repair. Six head coaches and as many offensive schemes in ten years. All the big names, but never a solid plan for the future...now we have got to the point where the Bingo guy is calling the plays after being on board for two weeks...what a joke this franchise has become. I wouldn't be surprised if the players just quit on Monday night, and the stadium is empty by half time.

I'm almost embarrased to admit I'm a fan these days, and I honestly thought I would never say that.

I almost feel the same way. This morning I went to put on a Redskins pullover because it is getting chilly outside and I hesitated. If I had something else that was clean, long sleeve, and not Redskins related, I would be wearing it right now. Technically I should be wearing a shirt and tie, but I haven't felt like dressing up lately.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Perhaps he didn't dream up the idea, but he surely endorsed it.

"but they went to the point of pulling out his contract and saying, 'You have got to do whatever the owner tells you to do.' ...

This organization is out of control. It is amazing that as good a business man Snyder is, he can't see that this thing is spiraling beyond repair. Six head coaches and as many offensive schemes in ten years. All the big names, but never a solid plan for the future...now we have got to the point where the Bingo guy is calling the plays after being on board for two weeks...what a joke this franchise has become. I wouldn't be surprised if the players just quit on Monday night, and the stadium is empty by half time.

I'm almost embarrased to admit I'm a fan these days, and I honestly thought I would never say that.

I was thinking of that too, wondering who "they" were in that situation? Either way it sounds bad. Reminded me of what Larry Michael's said about Vinny, he has "zero" ability to build relationships w/people.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Perhaps he didn't dream up the idea, but he surely endorsed it.

"but they went to the point of pulling out his contract and saying, 'You have got to do whatever the owner tells you to do.' ...

This organization is out of control. It is amazing that as good a business man Snyder is, he can't see that this thing is spiraling beyond repair.

You'd think, but who knows, he had great timing with his successful ventures before the Skins, not to say he didn't take advantage of the situations well.

The big guys call the big shots though, he has to realize that he's and owner only though... owners don't do hiring.

[SmootSmack]

I don't think it was either. And Zorn's best friend coming to his defense I don't think is going to have much of an impact on Snyder. I mean what else should Largent say?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think it was either. And Zorn's best friend coming to his defense I don't think is going to have much of an impact on Snyder. I mean what else should Largent say?

Just consider that Zorn's best friend is a former congressman & a CEO of a company. He's a guy that has been in the public eye & knows how & when to speak. He might be outspoken, even so, the politically wise thing to do is typically bite your tongue. Yet, he's willing to put his name behind his statements.

If nothing else, that to me says something about the current climate at Redskin Park. Even George Michael has spoken up (though he only spoke poorly of Vinny's relationship building or lack thereof). I'm just waiting for the next revealing interview, maybe an ex employee or somebody that knows a lot. Wait till we play the Saints, wonder if GW will speak up then?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I don't think it was either. And Zorn's best friend coming to his defense I don't think is going to have much of an impact on Snyder. I mean what else should Largent say?

I'm not defending Danny Boy, we all know he has run this team wrong and most likely he does now. Hopefully. If DS was the main culprit for this yrs debacle then fine say what you will, but it's not just him.

Snyder for picking up Cerrato and staying with him too long.

Cerrato for not building in the trenches first.

Gibbs for bailing on the team like he did in Gibbs1.

Zorn for not getting experienced NFL Asst. that could help him. Letting players run the show. Sending in the wrong play at the wrong time. Sending in the wrong play with the wrong personel.

Maybe Largent would like to expound on the last item on my list. Perhaps he would like to comment on the defensive co-ordinators across the NFL that have commented about Zorn play calling being horrific or maybe just shut up unless he can fix this anemic offense.

I don't think anybody is blaming Zorn all by himself but he sure is part of the equasion. Maybe if he "Exicuted" his scheme better.

[skinsfan69]

Snyder and his butt boy are really getting ripped pretty bad this week. Steve Largent, Merril Hodge, John Cooke, Largent, Rich Gannon....I'm sure there are some more. We've seriously got a younger version of Al Davis running the team. You'd figure Snyder would get it after working w/ Gibbs for 4 years.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Snyder and his butt boy are really getting ripped pretty bad this week. Steve Largent, Merril Hodge, John Cooke, Largent, Rich Gannon....I'm sure there are some more. We've seriously got a younger version of Al Davis running the team. You'd figure Snyder would get it after working w/ Gibbs for 4 years.

Hint: Gibbs was Danny's butt boy too. He didn't run things much more than Zorn does. Far too deferential.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Hint: Gibbs was Danny's butt boy too. He didn't run things much more than Zorn does. Far too deferential.

Gibbs was deferential to Williams and Saunders. He entrusted the D to Williams and the O to Saunders. Both turned out to be poor talent evaluators and it cost the franchise dearly(Lloyd, ARE, Arch).

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Largent and Zorn have been good friends for 30 years, what else was he going to say. No problem with Largent defending Zorn, but he may want to look at some game tape before absolving Zorn of all blame for this mess.

[SFREDSKIN]

We should read the part that is bolded out:

Among Largent's comments earlier in the day to KJR radio in Seattle:

-- "I don't know what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like, and I don't think Dan Snyder knows what a 'Dan Snyder coach' looks like. And that's fairly obvious now ahat he's been through about six head coaches in 10 years."

-- "The problem is Jim was hired as an offensive coordinator, by the way, not as a head coach, and then promoted to head coach the same offseason. And yet the coaching position that Jim was given, he was told who his coaches were going to be, he was told who his players were going to be. He didn't have any opportunities to go and seek and find players or coaches that he wanted to fill out on the team - with a couple of exceptions. He hired Sherman Smith and Stump Mitchell, those are the only two guys he hired when he came in his first year. He inherited everything he has to work with today, yet all the blame is being laid at his feet because he can't make them a Super Bowl champion. I could've told you two years ago, they don't have a Super Bowl-quality team. It doesn't matter how good a coach you are; you're not going to get there with the players the owners gives you."

-- "The formula that the Redskin owner and the Redskin general manager have for producing a winner on the field is not a winning formula, meaning they can't make all the decisions on the coaches and on the personnel and then just hire some guy from off the street to be head coach and win with what they put on the field. It doesn't work and that's been proven for 10 years in a row. And they had Joe Gibbs in here, a guy who went to many Super Bowls and he couldn't do it with the formula they gave him."

-- "The failure of the Redskins is not about Jim Zorn; the faiure of the Redskins starts above him, above his level. I tell you,