Wow, Talk About Selling Out the Line

[redwagonskins]

From the Post:

However, Gibbs conceded that the Redskins must find a way to get the ball downfield. "We've not been able to get hooked up on deep stuff," Gibbs said. "We took a couple of shots today. But to be quite truthful, it's pass protection. We missed a key blitz one time, he got rushed about three or four times. He made good plays getting out of there and getting rid of the ball."

225 yards of rushing created by the O Line and they get blamed for the passing game.

[SmootSmack]

Bugel was saying in the post game that Samuels was playing all game with a swollen ankle. Has anyone else heard anything about that?

[Gmanc711]

Can we just all agree that it is Brunell and not the offensive line? I mean sure they are gonna miss a block or two each game, but seriously, Brunell had time today.

[Daseal]

Yeah, the line has been playing well in pass protection ALL YEAR! The type of protection where a QB like Ramsey can pick you apart.

[Drift Reality]

I can't believe Gibbs is so loyal to Brunell. I mean, you can't argue with Coach Joe, but to be honest, I think he is just taking it a little too far here.

Brunell sucks ass right now. Maybe he would concentrate more if he realized he was going to actually lose his job if he kept sucking.

[ArringtonRules]

I just don't understand Gibbs on this one at all.. Why is he protecting brunell so much??
Brunell had time and at times open recievers, YET he was unable to connect!!!
C'mon we were playing the BEARS who are not that solid on passing defense.. If I am correct they are 28th or 29th and yet look at the production we got. THIS IS REDICULOUS!!! How can you still believe that Brunell is your man, he was brought in as a vertran who would play smart, protect the ball and absorb the offense quickly.. he has'nt done any of that.
We hav'nt made the deep threat real, 'cause Brunell is not accurate, while the jury is still out on his arm.. Our offense especially the passing game is really bad.. some of the throws brunell makes are just god awful. I'm sorry I can' take any more of his running along the sideline and throwing the ball away.. This QB throws the ball away more than he does to his recievers!!
Gibbs has to try something different..

Originally Posted by Drift Reality

I can't believe Gibbs is so loyal to Brunell. I mean, you can't argue with Coach Joe, but to be honest, I think he is just taking it a little too far here.

Brunell sucks ass right now. Maybe he would concentrate more if he realized he was going to actually lose his job if he kept sucking.

[redwagonskins]

I just find it odd that Coach is so careful not to call out certain players but will sellout a group that really played well and kind of needs the pat on the back. His typical "I've got to watch the tape" would have been much better. In the postgame interviews on Comcast, Dockery was talking about how the line had it together even though the passing game suffered. I have to believe that this kind of stuff can create division in a locker room. When a unit racks up 225 yds rushing and then takes the blame for the passing game it's got to bother you. Then when you watch the game film and see that you did indeed have a good game...well it's only time before players question why the Coach has it so hot for the QB even if it means selling you out a bit.
I'm sure Joe Gibbs knows what he's doing but...

[htownskinfan]

I am a diehard redskinfan as I'm sure we all are that post on this site,I went out of town this weekend and got back in time to see the last 5 minutes of the game,I was glad we were winning but I didnt care if we lost,I've lost hope,after checking Brunell's stats and Gibb's steadfast refusal to replace him just amazes me,and if Brunell starts in 2 weeks,which I'm sure he will,is making me lose faith in Gibbs,which I thought I'd never do

[Gmanc711]

Watching our game today, its pretty obvious to me that we proboly wont make the playoffs. At least not if we play like we did today. I mean we have a great defense, but our offense is so far behind, that good teams are gonna find a way to completley take our offense out of the game, and then eventually be able to pound on our defense because they get tired. We have the foundation to win a championship next season, we really do. If we have half a effort for our offense, we could do it this year. However, Brunell is not scaring anyone , and honestly does anyoen think hes gonna be our starting QB next year? If Gibbs really thinks Ramsey is our future like he has stated, its time to hand it over to him so he can learn the system faster and get ready to win the big one next year.

[Shane]

I don't know why I am posting to this daft thread, but what Joe Gibbs said was: "We took a couple of shots today. But to be quite truthful, it's pass protection. We missed a key blitz one time, he got rushed about three or four times. He made good plays getting out of there and getting rid of the ball."

The pass protection failed on the long pass attempts. That is what Joe Gibbs said. It is also obviously the truth.

As for all the critics about Brunell's arm strength:

"I said before, Mark has a hose," Gardner said. "He has a very strong arm. It's totally bogus. Some of those balls you see, he's under pressure. He can throw that rock. People are looking for excuses because he's older. It's not because of his arm."

[jamf]

look. brunell has gone two weeks without breaking the 100 yard passing mark. he has a probowl WR. he has 2 very good #2 WR. He has Portis. Yet he can't pass for crap.

his passes arent even close. if mcquaters(or was it azuma) caught the ball that hit him in the chest late in the 4th, we would've lost the game. sure he can avoid a sack, but whats the point in throwing the ball out of bounds so damn much. might as well run it everytime.


another problem i have with the team: when urlacher grabbed the facemask of portis, his linemen didnt do jack shit. if you do that shit to my RB on a way to a possible TD im going to do everyting in my power to get you back
yet our line didnt do jack. i've never seen a line that talented play like a bunch of pussies. chris samuels run blocks like he is playing a game at the ymca. did anyone notice alex brown OWNING samuels/dockery today? the 93 year old ray brown held his own against ogunleye. this is disgusting. i honestly think samuels is retarded. he definately has the talent. he has no excuse.

and brunell again: he only had 2 recorded passing plays the second half, i think he ran out of bounds on purpose so that he can stay above the 33.3%. 7/20 is rediculous
7/20 against the bears!!!
how could he have played worse?

btw, brunells problem isnt his arm or the dline, its his head.
remember the brad johnson days? he only threw to jamie asher and to larry centers, thats it. no deep balls
its the same thing all over again. brunell is too concerned with losing his job to a young guy again that he is only going for the high precentage throws, the Defences pick up on it and just sit on the short routes, this leaves people open down field but he cant hit his target. look brunells arm is still strong, but so is jeff georges.



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[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Shane

The pass protection failed on the long pass attempts. That is what Joe Gibbs said. It is also obviously the truth.

As for all the critics about Brunell's arm strength:

"I said before, Mark has a hose," Gardner said. "He has a very strong arm. It's totally bogus. Some of those balls you see, he's under pressure. He can throw that rock. People are looking for excuses because he's older. It's not because of his arm."

did you see his pass to a WIDE OPEN coles??? grab the clip from extremeskins, he can't hit anyone... he's had 3 30 yard passes all year, lowest in the league for starters i believe... the protection didn't fail, brunell did... he had 2-3 open deep shots with plenty of time and couldn't get the ball close, or decided to throw it away instead.

[Daseal]

Every now and then a blitz will get through that you simply don't pick up. The best lines in the league have that problem at times. Brunell had oppurtunities and next time he sets foot in Fedex he should be booed to the brink of tears.

[LadyT]

Oh boy, I don't like what Gibbs said at all. Looks like he's making excuses for his boy and trying to lay the blame for Brunell's poor play on others.

I expect better of Gibbs. He won't publicly criticize Brunell, but has no trouble doing so to the entire O-Line?

Frankly, I'm beginning to really question his loyalty to a player, the most important one on the offense, who is not producing. How must this be perceived by the rest of the team?

[That Guy]

well honestly i'd think brunell would have been benched if we lost, or if ramsey looked better in limited time... he came in and did alright, but no one blew us away.