Climategate

[mlmpetert]

I think we all know that most rational people agree Global Warming is at best a scheme Al Gore has created to achieve notoriety (seeing failed presidential bid, and claim to have created the internet), but for obvious fraud to have occurred and major news networks to not report it is ridiculous:

"An examination of morning and evening news programs on ABC, CBS and NBC since Nov. 20 yielded zero mentions of the scandal, even in the Nov. 25 reports about Obama going to Copenhagen to discuss the need for emissions reductions," the Institute reported Wednesday.
But during that time, the Institute says, "the networks reported on pro-golfer Tiger Woods' 'minor' car accident at least 37 times. They also found time to report on an orphaned Moose and the meal selection at the president’s State Dinner."
Media Research Center President Brent Bozell reacted to the findings saying, "To pretend this story simply doesn’t exist is damning to journalism."

Comedy Central Scoops Network News on Climate-Gate Scandal - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com

Obama science advisers grilled over hacked e-mails - Yahoo! News

[mlmpetert]

Or how about a week or so ago when Al was asked questions about the 9 errors found in his flim he refused to remove:

When asked by McAleer whether he would do anything to correct the errors found by the British court, Gore said he wouldn't go through each of the errors but added that the ruling was in favor of screening the film in schools.

"There's been such a long discussion of each one of those specific things," he said. "One of them for example was that polar bears really aren't endangered. Well polar bears didn't get that word." The audience laughed.

Phelim countered that the number of polar bears has increased and is increasing.

"You don't think they're endangered?" Gore asked.

"The number has increased," McAleer repeated, prompting the same question from Gore. "If the number of polar bears has increased, surely they're not in danger."

Before McAleer could say anything else, he was interrupted by environmental journalists who said it wasn't a debate and shut off his microphone.

FOXNews.com - New Documentary Challenges Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth' on Global Warming

[firstdown]

You said Al Gore pushed globle warming to achieve notoriety and I say that maybe 1% of it and the other 99% was to make a millions of dollars. It does not surprise me the media has not covered this at all.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You said Al Gore pushed globle warming to achieve notoriety and I say that maybe 1% of it and the other 99% was to make a millions of dollars. It does not surprise me the media has not covered this at all.

I honestly dont think money is the driving force behind Gore. He married rich, he has everything he could want except the spot light.

Ive always wondered why a rich person would want to enter politics and expose themselves to constant public scrutiny and lose their privacy. Some people just need that spotlight or recognition or to prove themselves to friends/family.

However, making a a couple bucks while you are at it is a no brainer:

Chicago Climate Exchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

CCX is 10% owned by Goldman Sachs (GS) and 10% owned by Generation Investment Management (GIM), an investment firm founded & chaired by Al Gore.

[12thMan]

So is the intent of this thread to somehow discredit Al Gore and Democrats on this issue, and more broadly global warming? Or is the intent to actually discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides of the argument. Because there are facts on both sides. I'm just curious.

For the record, I'm not interested in joining the debate I just want to boost my post count

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So is the intent of this thread to somehow discredit Al Gore and Democrats on this issue, and more broadly global warming? Or is the intent to actually discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides of the argument. Because there are facts on both sides. I'm just curious.

For the record, I'm not interested in joining the debate I just want to boost my post count

My intent is not to discredit Democrats or discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides. My quesition is why is this not being reported?

I think discrediting Al Gore and taking shots at him is fair game as he is a public figure and puts himself at the head the Global Warming inuitive. There are plently of Republicans that believe in Global Warming. For the record i am neither a Republican nor a Democrat (And have a zero vote track record on all non-sga elections); however, i do not believe in man caused global warming.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

My intent is not to discredit Democrats or discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides. My quesition is why is this not being reported?

I think discrediting Al Gore and taking shots at him is fair game as he puts himself at the head of leading the Global Warming inuitive.

Well let me ask you, why do you think it's not being reported?

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well let me ask you, why do you think it's not being reported?

For NBC, the hacked email info came out during their much publicized "Green Week", so i am guessing they had conflicts of interest with reporting it. It would have been bad for business.

I dont know why ABC or CBS has not. Obviously someone said No, lets go with the Tiger story again tonight...

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

So is the intent of this thread to somehow discredit Al Gore and Democrats on this issue, and more broadly global warming? Or is the intent to actually discuss the scientific facts supporting both sides of the argument. Because there are facts on both sides. I'm just curious.

For the record, I'm not interested in joining the debate I just want to boost my post count

The point of the thread is to expose something being ignored by the media except for Fox News...global warming has been proven to be a hoax supported by "adjusted" facts and cover-ups to avoid compliance with the equivalent of the Freedom of Information Act.

The final nail has been put in the coffin, but hardly anyone knows about it because the media has an agenda.

It appears the scientists and supporters of global warming came up with their conclusion and goal FIRST...then created the support to "prove" themselves right. It's completely backwards and a sad state of science when it is propelled by politics rather than discovery of the truth.

[DBUCHANON101]

Didnt ski resorts in Co have their earliest openings ever -or in a long time- this year? Sorry if you posted this in a link but i didnt go through them so if you did just overlook this post.

[RobH4413]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Didnt ski resorts in Co have their earliest openings ever -or in a long time- this year? Sorry if you posted this in a link but i didnt go through them so if you did just overlook this post.

Making any kind of assumptions based on one, two, or even ten years is ridiculous, especially in a specific region.

I always find it absurd when it's a particularly cold winter and people are like, "oh ... so much for global warming." The real things to study are average global temperature and concentration of certain gasses within the entire global climate.

Problem is these things are extremely difficult to reach conclusive evidence on, and doing so is theoretical at best. It's kind of a shame that much of the science community has become so politicized because it's killed much of the credibility of the overall scientific community.

Here's an interesting read:

The SuperFreakonomics Global-Warming Fact Quiz - Freakonomics Blog - NYTimes.com

(by the way, superfreakonomics is a pretty good read...check it out)

[saden1]

It doesn't take a genius to know that you're all god damn filthy polluters and eco-system killers. What do I know though, I'm just a liberal tree hugger who can't see "conservative facts."

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

It doesn't take a genius to know that you're all god damn filthy polluters and eco-system killers. What do I know though, I'm just a liberal tree hugger who can't see "conservative facts."

That link is pretty usless now that we know that the data has been twisted to meet their needs.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

That link is pretty usless now that we know that the data has been twisted to meet their needs.

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by saden1

Really? Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure the same team has been putting out all the research used by every geo-scientist.

I hear you piss in the sea when you go fishing...what impact do you think that has on the environment?

As long as Firstdown doesn't piss in a pool Im swimming in , Im fine with him pissing in a river / sea . I just hope some grandma on her little yacht doesn't see too much of first and put him on youtube