Do me a favor, please?

sportscurmudgeon · 10-28-2004, 05:25 PM

I will be away for this weekend catching the Breeders' Cup races and may not be back until late on Monday so I want to get this message posted before I disappear...

If you are eligible to vote and registered to vote, please be sure to go and vote next Tuesday.

I don't care if you vote for the candidate that I will vote for. I'm not going to tell you who I am voting for or bore you to death with the reasons why I made that choice. To be blunt, I really don't care whom you might vote for or why just so long as you vote. Voting is a responsibility of citizenship in a democracy. So please take the time and make the effort to go and vote.

To the Moderators: I have no intention that this thread will turn into a political harrangue but if it does, I apologize in advance and I'd ask that you take it down. I happen to be one of those people who believes that things will be better if more of the citizenry is "invested" in the election processes and so I wanted to urge members here to go and vote their consciences.

joecrisp · 10-28-2004, 06:42 PM

I think this one's worthy of a sticky. Thanks, SC.

Go Vote November 2nd.

Ade Jimoh Fan Club · 10-28-2004, 06:46 PM

I think the voting should have a list of 20 or so issues (i.e. military, abortion, welfare, education, medicare, etc...) and that you should vote for each issue. Then, based on your responses - it would tell you which candidate you should select. You could still have the option to go the other way "just because" but then at least you would know that you were being irrational.

I'm just sick of the majority of Americans voting for whoever "looks presidential" or based on the rediculous, non-pertinent storylines in our increasingly biased news networks (i.e. who gives a crap what each one did or didn't do in the military in Vietnam compared to who they are and what they stand for now).

I saw a poll they conducted on people who voted early and 63% of them couldn't name one issue that the candidate they voted for stood for. ONE FREAKIN' ISSUE. That's sad folks.

That's like my wife, who picks her fantasy football team based on the color of their uniforms and what their mascot is. (Then again, she's killing me this year - so who knows??) And now that I've tied this back into football - ADE OUT!

SmootSmack · 10-28-2004, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ade Jimoh Fan Club

I think the voting should have a list of 20 or so issues (i.e. military, abortion, welfare, education, medicare, etc...) and that you should vote for each issue. Then, based on your responses - it would tell you which candidate you should select. You could still have the option to go the other way "just because" but then at least you would know that you were being irrational.

I'm just sick of the majority of Americans voting for whoever "looks presidential" or based on the rediculous, non-pertinent storylines in our increasingly biased news networks (i.e. who gives a crap what each one did or didn't do in the military in Vietnam compared to who they are and what they stand for now).

I saw a poll they conducted on people who voted early and 63% of them couldn't name one issue that the candidate they voted for stood for. ONE FREAKIN' ISSUE. That's sad folks.

That's like my wife, who picks her fantasy football team based on the color of their uniforms and what their mascot is. (Then again, she's killing me this year - so who knows??) And now that I've tied this back into football - ADE OUT!

You should try taking some of the quizzes at On The Issues

NY_Skinsfan · 10-28-2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

You should try taking some of the quizzes at On The Issues

This is a great site...thanks for the link.

Daseal · 10-28-2004, 06:53 PM

Voting is definitely worth the turnout, although I feel the system we're using is a bit unbalanced and we should go to a pure popular vote, since that ensures the people select the President it's worth your time.

If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader!

cpayne5 · 10-28-2004, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader!

Don't you know that exit polls conducted during the 2000 election showed that most people who voted for Nader would have voted for Bush otherwise?!?!?!

(that's what Nader claims, not me)

kingerock · 10-28-2004, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Voting is definitely worth the turnout, although I feel the system we're using is a bit unbalanced and we should go to a pure popular vote, since that ensures the people select the President it's worth your time.

If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader!

The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.

SmootSmack · 10-29-2004, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kingerock

The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.

I think there is some referendum in Colorado that is being voted and would take effect with this election where the electoral votes wouldn't be winner take all. So basically the the winner of that state would take 5 of the 9 electoral votes. What do you guys think of that idea? Had it been in effect last time Gore would have won.

Homer: "I don't agree with his Bart-killing policy, but I do approve of his Selma-killing policy" Sideshow Bob for President!

cpayne5 · 10-29-2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kingerock

The reason we don't do a popular vote though because whole sections of the nation wouldn't be represented. We do electoral college because states like Rhode Island and Maine deserve to be counted just as much as New York, Texas and California.

And on top of that, the people are even supposed to be electing the President at all. That's the states' job. Read the Federalist papers.

Gmanc711 · 10-28-2004, 10:26 PM

Great link Smoot. Thanks, it helps me look at the issues alot better.

Riggo44 · 10-28-2004, 10:40 PM

Thanks for the link smootsmack. I forwarded it to my friends. Great site. :thumb:

SmootSmack · 10-28-2004, 10:54 PM

I'm glad I could be of service

BrudLee · 10-28-2004, 11:07 PM

Well, I'll turn it into a political harangue.

If you live in Delaware, vote for my father for Governor.

MTK · 10-28-2004, 11:13 PM

Nader was the FU vote in 2000.

If Gore could have won his own home state it wouldn't have been an issue. Blaming Nader for 2000 is a cop-out. The true crime of 2000 was the Florida debacle.

10-28-2004, 05:25 PM	#1
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Do me a favor, please? I will be away for this weekend catching the Breeders' Cup races and may not be back until late on Monday so I want to get this message posted before I disappear... If you are eligible to vote and registered to vote, please be sure to go and vote next Tuesday. I don't care if you vote for the candidate that I will vote for. I'm not going to tell you who I am voting for or bore you to death with the reasons why I made that choice. To be blunt, I really don't care whom you might vote for or why just so long as you vote. Voting is a responsibility of citizenship in a democracy. So please take the time and make the effort to go and vote. To the Moderators: I have no intention that this thread will turn into a political harrangue but if it does, I apologize in advance and I'd ask that you take it down. I happen to be one of those people who believes that things will be better if more of the citizenry is "invested" in the election processes and so I wanted to urge members here to go and vote their consciences. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

10-28-2004, 10:26 PM	#11
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Great link Smoot. Thanks, it helps me look at the issues alot better. __________________ #21

10-28-2004, 10:40 PM	#12
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 51 Posts: 2,390	Thanks for the link smootsmack. I forwarded it to my friends. Great site. :thumb: __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

10-28-2004, 10:54 PM	#13
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I'm glad I could be of service __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

10-28-2004, 11:07 PM	#14
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Well, I'll turn it into a political harangue. If you live in Delaware, vote for my father for Governor. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

10-28-2004, 06:42 PM	#2
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	I think this one's worthy of a sticky. Thanks, SC. Go Vote November 2nd.

10-28-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
Ade Jimoh Fan Club Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 410	I think the voting should have a list of 20 or so issues (i.e. military, abortion, welfare, education, medicare, etc...) and that you should vote for each issue. Then, based on your responses - it would tell you which candidate you should select. You could still have the option to go the other way "just because" but then at least you would know that you were being irrational. I'm just sick of the majority of Americans voting for whoever "looks presidential" or based on the rediculous, non-pertinent storylines in our increasingly biased news networks (i.e. who gives a crap what each one did or didn't do in the military in Vietnam compared to who they are and what they stand for now). I saw a poll they conducted on people who voted early and 63% of them couldn't name one issue that the candidate they voted for stood for. ONE FREAKIN' ISSUE. That's sad folks. That's like my wife, who picks her fantasy football team based on the color of their uniforms and what their mascot is. (Then again, she's killing me this year - so who knows??) And now that I've tied this back into football - ADE OUT!

10-28-2004, 06:53 PM	#6
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Voting is definitely worth the turnout, although I feel the system we're using is a bit unbalanced and we should go to a pure popular vote, since that ensures the people select the President it's worth your time. If you're a democrat, don't kill us again by voting for Nader!

10-28-2004, 11:13 PM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,576	Nader was the FU vote in 2000. If Gore could have won his own home state it wouldn't have been an issue. Blaming Nader for 2000 is a cop-out. The true crime of 2000 was the Florida debacle.

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