Al Davis insisting on keeping Russell; what about Tom Cable?

[SolidSnake84]

Trains of Thought in Oakland: Davis Wants Russell, What about Cable? | Bleacher Report

This is so much crap. Jamarcus Russell has been a bust from day 1 that he stepped foot in the NFL.

No coach at this point in the NFL would have him as their starter except maybe Jim Zorn (only kidding), but how will that impact future coaches if indeed Cable is replaced?

It looks like Cable is staying put for now; will it be like our situation where Tom Cable will be forced to start Jamarcus???

[MTK]

Russell is a mega bust. Odd but not surprising that Rich Gannon personally volunteered to help mentor him, and Davis gave him a big FU.

[SolidSnake84]

And also, Rich Gannon could still lace up the cleats now and play better than Russel has his whole career...

[MTK]

If Russell applied himself, he might actually have a future. The guy is fat & lazy and doesn't seem to give a crap about having a meaningful NFL career. Such a waste of talent.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Russell applied himself, he might actually have a future. The guy is fat & lazy and doesn't seem to give a crap about having a meaningful NFL career. Such a waste of talent.

That is his issue mainly he let that guarantee money dictate his decisions. He feels he is set for life and doesn't have to practice hard.

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If Russell applied himself, he might actually have a future. The guy is fat & lazy and doesn't seem to give a crap about having a meaningful NFL career. Such a waste of talent.

This is why there should be a rookie cap. Unproven college players get elite NFL money (which is guaranteed) and they don't have to work for it. Yeah they have to show up but there's no real incentive beyond wanting to win to better themselves. Most, if not all of these rookies apply themselves and try to improve but Russell is just collecting a check.

Al Davis won't get anyone better than Cable who will want to coach this squad so he might as well keep the guy. I'm sure Raiders fans pray for Al Davis to die. Thank God I'm not a Raiders fan.

[JoeRedskin]

Honestly, you put 25 Milliion in my bank account, I have a hard time killing myself over anything. Whatcha gonna do? Fire me. Okay, me and my money will go to ______ (insert personal paradise here).

What is amazing is that so many guys who get the big bucks play with passion. Really, with the amounts being handed out to some of these guys (rookies and UFA's), skill level is almost irrelevant to future production. If you're set for life, do you have the desire to go through grueling practices and risk potential injury and still play to the best of your abilities?

JaMarcus apparrently answered the above question "No".

[MTK]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Honestly, you put 25 Milliion in my bank account, I have a hard time killing myself over anything. Whatcha gonna do? Fire me. Okay, me and my money will go to ______ (insert personal paradise here).

What is amazing is that so many guys who get the big bucks play with passion. Really, with the amounts being handed out to some of these guys (rookies and UFA's), skill level is almost irrelevant to future production. If you're set for life, do you have the desire to go through grueling practices and risk potential injury and still play to the best of your abilities?

JaMarcus apparrently answered the above question "No".

The NFL really needs a rookie payscale and JR is a perfect reason why. You're right, where is the motivation to work hard when you're handed a life changing payday the second you walk through the door??

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Honestly, you put 25 Milliion in my bank account, I have a hard time killing myself over anything. Whatcha gonna do? Fire me. Okay, me and my money will go to ______ (insert personal paradise here).

What is amazing is that so many guys who get the big bucks play with passion. Really, with the amounts being handed out to some of these guys (rookies and UFA's), skill level is almost irrelevant to future production. If you're set for life, do you have the desire to go through grueling practices and risk potential injury and still play to the best of your abilities?

JaMarcus apparrently answered the above question "No".

This is precisely the problem with most of his generation. How about playing because you love the game and it's your passion and you want to contribute something positive with what you were blessed to posess? Your compensation in dollars should simply be a byproduct of doing something for the love of doing it, not the REASON why you do it. Nothing like doing something with your eye on the RESULT. Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Thank you Mr. Lennon.

[HugeMonkFan]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

This is precisely the problem with most of his generation. How about playing because you love the game and it's your passion and you want to contribute something positive with what you were blessed to posess? Your compensation in dollars should simply be a byproduct of doing something for the love of doing it, not the REASON why you do it. Nothing like doing something with your eye on the RESULT. Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. Thank you Mr. Lennon.

yeah i hear you there...and thats why i love players like Farve (even tho i HATED him for the waffling shit but i know why he did it so he didnt have to go thru mini camps and training camp) but when you see him play every weekend he has a fire and love for the game that is almost unmatched by anyone in the league...hell did any of you watch the post game locker room celebration last week where he was singing "pants on the ground" (how the fuck did that "song" get popular...stupid american idol) he just loves the game...i told my friends that if makes it to the super bowl i will buy a favre vikings jersey...if not i guess ill have to buy a brees or manning (if colts win) for my super bowl party.

But back to topic. Yeah it seems like these kids completely bust their asses in their last couple college seasons to get a good draft slot then get paid a TON of money and come in and not perform. I cant wait till the new CBA is done, if ever, and has a set rookie pay scale.

On the opposite side tho i like it when guys squeek into the league with a 6th or 7th round pick and play their asses off and turn into superstars and get the big paydays...they are the ipotame of how its supposed to be done.

[over the mountain]

If JR can get his act together and learn how to prepare like a NFL qb i think he could turn his career around. With some hard work and study sessions he could become atleast a decent starter. It doesnt help to have as many head coach changes as he has gone through in his career or be in Oakland with no real offensive help.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

If JR can get his act together and learn how to prepare like a NFL qb i think he could turn his career around. With some hard work and study sessions he could become atleast a decent starter. It doesnt help to have as many head coach changes as he has gone through in his career or be in Oakland with no real offensive help.

Hard to do that since you have a tremendous load of guaranteed $$$$$$$ just for signing up. JR is only the most extreme case of what is plagueing the entire NFL, or to be more truthful all of pro sports. You really only have a handful of players in each pro sport that actually want to win and excel even with the money. I mean honestly look at the state of our beloved Skins right now. Sure Zorn sucked as a HC with his playcalling, but we did supposedly have a decent roster when he came in here. Too many of our guys were virtual no shows this past season for the money they were receiving. Many others just under performed. Fletcher and JC were the only ones that seemed to keep fighting til the end. What they need to do is to cut the salaries to some base amount and pay the guys extra for plays made(TD's, receptions, yardage, points, pancakes, yards passing, etc). Use performance as the conduit for these guys to make the big bucks. Once you do that, then you will get some really interesting ball being played. Sooner or later something like this is going to happen. If the global economy tanks, folks are not going to be able to afford the outrageous ticket prices anymore.

[saden1]

At this point JR looks like a lost cause but I would let him ride the bench and hire him good QB coach just to work with him before completly giving up on hime. If Vince Young can do it he might be able to as well

[EEich]

Al is a sad old man.

[tootergray34]

Al Davis is a fucking moron, Russell is the biggest bust of all time. The fact that he is in the NFL right now is an absolute joke.