Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant

GTripp0012 · 03-23-2010, 10:48 AM

Presented w/o comment.

INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell: Under the Cap: The Redskins Finally Leverage the Uncapped Year

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 10:52 AM

Moved to Salary Cap Central

GTripp0012 · 03-23-2010, 10:57 AM

Ah, good call.

GMScud · 03-23-2010, 02:08 PM

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

MTK · 03-23-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league.

You wanna be baffled check out how much L. Coles has been paid over the course of his career.

diehard · 03-23-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

You wanna be baffled check out how much L. Coles has been paid over the course of his career.

Please don't bring him up.

BlindReckoning · 03-23-2010, 06:15 PM

I think Eric Schaffer is probably the best in the business. He is so good at his job I have to think he shares the blame for all these years of Snyder bringing in over priced hasbeens. With out him Snyder couldn't have kept doing it. Having said that he is the real MVP of this organization. Got to hold on to him!

53Fan · 03-23-2010, 11:23 AM

Bruce Allen is a wise man. :thumb:

Lotus · 03-23-2010, 11:39 AM

Our new FO is pretty good at keeping secrets. This is the first that I've heard of the AH/DHall renegotiations. They also are doing things the right way: using the uncapped year to create roster fiscal health while not mortgaging our fiscal future.

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-23-2010, 11:32 AM

Wow, that's pretty crafty. i'm wondering why this hasnt been reported elsewhere.

there is one part i don't quite grasp. is the fact that 2011-2014 are voidable only by haynesworth the sole reason that the bonus money only applies in 2010? is that some loophole in CBA rules?

If not, i'd say this could be a sign that we would not at all be opposed to haynesworth leaving the team. i've said before i thought he would be traded during the uncapped year and this only confirms thats its not only possible, but perhaps even likely. i guess the major problem with trading him is that haynesworth would have to convince a 4-3 team to be willing to, not only pay him an additional 16M, but also give up draft picks for him. pushing 30years old, i'm not sure how much we could get for him. if the raiders ran a 4-3, al davis would certainly give us 1 or 2 first rounders for him next year. but unfortunately, they do not.

Pocket$ $traight · 03-23-2010, 12:13 PM

This seems to give the coaches some leverage over these two players. For example, if they tell Godzilla to be NT and he balks, they can say "You are the NT and if you don't like it buy yourself out and go somewhere else". I don't see this happening but at least they have some options.

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This seems to give the coaches some leverage over these two players. For example, if they tell Godzilla to be NT and he balks, they can say "You are the NT and if you don't like it buy yourself out and go somewhere else". I don't see this happening but at least they have some options.

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-23-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

SmootSmack · 03-23-2010, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

BigHairedAristocrat · 03-23-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

no, any player... except cj spiller

03-23-2010, 10:48 AM	#1
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Presented w/o comment. INSIDE THE CAP with J.I. Halsell: Under the Cap: The Redskins Finally Leverage the Uncapped Year __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-23-2010, 10:52 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Moved to Salary Cap Central __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-23-2010, 10:57 AM	#3
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Ah, good call. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

03-23-2010, 06:15 PM	#7
BlindReckoning Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 36	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant I think Eric Schaffer is probably the best in the business. He is so good at his job I have to think he shares the blame for all these years of Snyder bringing in over priced hasbeens. With out him Snyder couldn't have kept doing it. Having said that he is the real MVP of this organization. Got to hold on to him!

03-23-2010, 11:23 AM	#8
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Bruce Allen is a wise man. :thumb: __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-23-2010, 02:08 PM	#4
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Great stuff there. On a side note, I'm still baffled at how much money D'Angelo Hall has been paid since he's been in the league. __________________ Tardy

03-23-2010, 11:39 AM	#9
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Our new FO is pretty good at keeping secrets. This is the first that I've heard of the AH/DHall renegotiations. They also are doing things the right way: using the uncapped year to create roster fiscal health while not mortgaging our fiscal future. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

03-23-2010, 11:32 AM	#10
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant Wow, that's pretty crafty. i'm wondering why this hasnt been reported elsewhere. there is one part i don't quite grasp. is the fact that 2011-2014 are voidable only by haynesworth the sole reason that the bonus money only applies in 2010? is that some loophole in CBA rules? If not, i'd say this could be a sign that we would not at all be opposed to haynesworth leaving the team. i've said before i thought he would be traded during the uncapped year and this only confirms thats its not only possible, but perhaps even likely. i guess the major problem with trading him is that haynesworth would have to convince a 4-3 team to be willing to, not only pay him an additional 16M, but also give up draft picks for him. pushing 30years old, i'm not sure how much we could get for him. if the raiders ran a 4-3, al davis would certainly give us 1 or 2 first rounders for him next year. but unfortunately, they do not. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

03-23-2010, 12:13 PM	#11
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 48 Posts: 4,261	Re: Our Cap Dudes: Still Brilliant This seems to give the coaches some leverage over these two players. For example, if they tell Godzilla to be NT and he balks, they can say "You are the NT and if you don't like it buy yourself out and go somewhere else". I don't see this happening but at least they have some options.

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