Mayock Thinks Redskins Could Pass on Okung...

[SmootSmack]

and take Trent Williams

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(he stole my thought!)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lil Wyte

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Haven't heard that song for a while but it certainly fits how I feel about this "thought."

[FRPLG]

id prefer if we could move down a bit and pick up an extra pick or two i we were gonna reach value-wise on Williams.

[Dirtbag59]

When did this guy become so heralded? It's like before I was hearing about him as a nice Right Tackle prospect. Now he's easily considered by many as the second best tackle prospect. The draft process really confuses me and makes my head hurt.

In the end though I think the opinion of only one man should matter and that is Orakpo.

[SBXVII]

This is what I have been talking about. People (media pundits) saying Okung may not be the best fit and that there are other draft picks that are better suited for the zone blocking scheme. But I was politely told I was incorrect and that we should get Okung.

Now what you people gotta say, Hmmmm? LOL.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Trade down a few spots and get Williams, plus another pick, no problem.

Passing Okung for Williams, not a good idea. Williams may be a bit faster, and a little quicker. But Okung has 2" longer arms (36 in.) and benched 225 38 times vs. 23 for Williams. I don't see Okung having any issues in a Zone Blocking scheme and like to have a guy that can physically man-handle a DE or rush OLB one-on-one.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Trade down a few spots and get Williams, plus another pick, no problem.

Passing Okung for Williams, not a good idea. Williams may be a bit faster, and a little quicker. But Okung has 2" longer arms (36 in.) and benched 225 38 times vs. 23 for Williams. I don't see Okung having any issues in a Zone Blocking scheme and like to have a guy that can physically man-handle a DE or rush OLB one-on-one.

Couldn't agree more.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Trade down a few spots and get Williams, plus another pick, no problem.

Passing Okung for Williams, not a good idea. Williams may be a bit faster, and a little quicker. But Okung has 2" longer arms (36 in.) and benched 225 38 times vs. 23 for Williams. I don't see Okung having any issues in a Zone Blocking scheme and like to have a guy that can physically man-handle a DE or rush OLB one-on-one.

This.

Also, at 306 lbs Okung should have no problem w/ zone blocking as he gets coached into it.

[Big C]

williams would be a reach at 4. trade down if we want him if at all possible.

[wilsowilso]

You are good SmootSmack. Real good.

[ChickenMonkey]

Watch some games on Trent Williams, and then watch the Okung games...Not a freakin chance hes as good as Okung. This Williams kid looks like a RT, his kick slide is horrible and he looks really slow...This guy is rising up the boards from a combine that takes place in shorts and T's..The game tapes tell the story.....Mayock can suck it!!!!

YouTube - LT Trent Williams Highlights/Lowlights 2009 Oklahoma (Williams)

YouTube - LT Russell Okung Highlights/Lowlights 2009/2008 Oklahoma State (Okung)

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Watch some games on Trent Williams, and then watch the Okung games...Not a freakin chance hes as good as Okung. This Williams kid looks like a RT, his kick slide is horrible and he looks really slow...This guy is rising up the boards from a combine that takes place in shorts and T's..The game tapes tell the story.....Mayock can suck it!!!!

YouTube - LT Trent Williams Highlights/Lowlights 2009 Oklahoma (Williams)

YouTube - LT Russell Okung Highlights/Lowlights 2009/2008 Oklahoma State (Okung)

I totally agree. When I watch the tape of Anthony Davis I am just dumbfounded that many analysts put that bum in the top ten. I know that Williams is not Davis, but do these fools even watch game tape. This seems like a no brainer choice, but what do I know?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by wilsowilso

I totally agree. When I watch the tape of Anthony Davis I am just dumbfounded that many analysts put that bum in the top ten. I know that Williams is not Davis, but do these fools even watch game tape. This seems like a no brainer choice, but what do I know?

Davis is much better then we give him credit for. A part of Davis's game that people don't realize is how powerful his punch is, watch the film and notice he can jar guys back with his punch in pass protection. He's also a powerful run blocker when he gets locked on. The things I didn't like about him though were the fact that his footwork was average at times and he wouldn't finish plays.

I personally felt the same way as you do about Davis but in re-watching the "tape" I started to see why he was so highly regarded. I personally like him as my third best tackle these days behind Bulaga.



At around 0:11 he turns his guy out. This might not look like a fancy play to the casual observer but as my high school D-Line coach told me, if they turn you out one way or the other they beat you.

I hate the screen pass at 0:19. He has a clear shot at a pancake and instead he does this weird turn-launch thing that does only enough to distract the guy for a second.

1:07 just gives up on the play because he's playing backside

1:54 Heres the punch I'm talking about. Watch as the guy gets pushed back around a foot away from the point of contact.

[SkinsfanNTX]

Williams could be the guy if we slide down a bit in round 1 with a trade with the Browns for instance who could send us back their one, a three, and maybe a sixth. We then try to send Haynesworth to Detroit or Tampa Bay for their two and ship Campbell to Oakland or Buffalo for a four. Net result: 1 (from Cleveland), 2 (from Detroit/TB), 3 (from Cleveland), 4, 4 (Buffalo/Oakland), 5, 6 (from Cleveland), and a 7. We suddenly have a full draft again and have added McNabb at QB. It's all good.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by SkinsfanNTX

Williams could be the guy if we slide down a bit in round 1 with a trade with the Browns for instance who could send us back their one, a three, and maybe a sixth. We then try to send Haynesworth to Detroit or Tampa Bay for their two and ship Campbell to Oakland or Buffalo for a four. Net result: 1 (from Cleveland), 2 (from Detroit/TB), 3 (from Cleveland), 4, 4 (Buffalo/Oakland), 5, 6 (from Cleveland), and a 7. We suddenly have a full draft again and have added McNabb at QB. It's all good.

Not sure anyone wants to inherit AH's huge contract, especially if the cap comes back. AH was the dumbest acquisition the Danny has ever done!!!!!!