The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

mooby · 09-26-2010, 08:26 PM

Just getting a head start on it. No Haslett wasn't responsible for that McNabb pick, but we already knew the game was over. I know the offense has problems, but I've seen enough of the offense to know it's not anything that can't be corrected. The rushing game started to come around today before we abandoned it, and the passing game is good enough and will only get better if McNabb keeps gelling with his receivers.

The real issue at hand in this thread is our defense. I was willing to give a pass for getting gashed by the Texans offense, but letting a rookie quarterback missing a Pro Bowl running back in the backfield look like he did today is unacceptable. I don't believe the players are at fault as much as the scheme is, and the scheme sucks.

The players aren't made for it. The majority of the players on our defense were damn good at being in a 4-3, and while some players have emerged in this scheme, namely Orakpo and Landry, I just don't believe that Haslett's defense will be successful in this league. We're not even 4 games into the season and the secret is out, and everybody knows it. Our offense isn't to the point yet where we can get into shootouts and win, and the more I see of this defense the more I think our offense is going to have to keep putting up more and more points on the board if it expects to win games.

All we heard all offseason was about how the majority of our defensive players would have an easy transition to the 3-4. Well our defense has looked historically bad so far, and honestly I do believe next season we would be better off going back to a 4-3. I understand making the transition to a 3-4 from a 4-3 isn't easy, but we shouldn't be this bad this early in the season. Jim Haslett's defense is trash, and I just don't believe that if he can't make adjustments this early in the season then he won't ever be successful here in Washington. Instead of throwing away the majority of the players this offseason we should just go back to the defense they are comfortable with.

Btw congratulations St. Louis. We just gave you your first September win in 4 seasons, and your second overall win in your last 29 games.

Chico23231 · 09-26-2010, 08:32 PM

lololololololololololol...

diehard · 09-26-2010, 08:32 PM

The defense did lose this game. If Haslett couldn't run the 4-3 defense, he shouldn't have been hired. If Shanahan is stuck on coaching players of yester-years and not your Clinton Portis or Haynesworth, why was he hired?

SirClintonPortis · 09-26-2010, 08:34 PM

We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year?

Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off.

tootergray34 · 09-26-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year?

Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off.

we need a LOT more than just that my friend.

Ruhskins · 09-26-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tootergray34

we need a LOT more than just that my friend.

The only thing we needed in our old 4-3 defense was a SLB and FS. We could've gotten Aaron Kampman or AJ Hawk from Green Bay and put Kareem Moore at FS, and move Landry back to SS.

If we had a 4-3 defense, we could have had a d-line of Carter, Golston, Haynesworth, and Orakpo tearing shit apart. Fletcher would be playing his natural MLB position and be a beast in the middle.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 09-27-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

We need a real nose tackle. Are there any decent prospects next year?

Kemo sucks and Albert is on and off.

Not 1st rd talent in the draft. Some 3-4 DE prospects though.

Longtimefan · 09-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements.

Ruhskins · 09-26-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements.

Defense hasn't been playing well. We won a fluke in week one and the defense's issues caught up to us on week two. We just lost to a subpar team (apparently they are not) with a rookie QB that didn't play his senior year, basically no receivers, and their start RB (their main offensive weapon) out for half of the game.

Longtimefan · 09-26-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Defense hasn't been playing well. We won a fluke in week one and the defense's issues caught up to us on week two. We just lost to a subpar team (apparently they are not) with a rookie QB that didn't play his senior year, basically no receivers, and their start RB (their main offensive weapon) out for half of the game.

That summation is not a very good one. I sense from the game day thread a feeling of ship jumping. Is everyone off the wagon already? We've only played 3 games.

Ruhskins · 09-26-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

That summation is not a very good one. I sense from the game day thread a feeling of ship jumping. Is everyone off the wagon already? We've only played 3 games.

I'm sure ppl will be off the bandwagon when we get prison raped by the Eagles next week.

saden1 · 09-26-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sure ppl will be off the bandwagon when we get prison raped by the Eagles next week.

I've already divested my seat on the wagon and watching it as it heads towards the edge of the cliff. Best of luck to all those who are still on board...I hope Superman comes through and rescues you.

Longtimefan · 09-26-2010, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I'm sure ppl will be off the bandwagon when we get prison raped by the Eagles next week.

Does it surprise you that people jump ship so quickly? I know everyone is a little upset especially after losing to the Rams, but to become so discouraged so soon sounds nothing like the energy that ignited this forum just a couple months ago. Where did it all go?

saden1 · 09-26-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Defense hasn't been playing well. We won a fluke in week one and the defense's issues caught up to us on week two. We just lost to a subpar team (apparently they are not) with a rookie QB that didn't play his senior year, basically no receivers, and their start RB (their main offensive weapon) out for half of the game.

Your summary makes me sick. I need anti-depressants.

diehard · 09-26-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Your summary makes me sick. I need anti-depressants.

The truth hurts.

09-26-2010, 08:26 PM	#1
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,468	The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Just getting a head start on it. No Haslett wasn't responsible for that McNabb pick, but we already knew the game was over. I know the offense has problems, but I've seen enough of the offense to know it's not anything that can't be corrected. The rushing game started to come around today before we abandoned it, and the passing game is good enough and will only get better if McNabb keeps gelling with his receivers. The real issue at hand in this thread is our defense. I was willing to give a pass for getting gashed by the Texans offense, but letting a rookie quarterback missing a Pro Bowl running back in the backfield look like he did today is unacceptable. I don't believe the players are at fault as much as the scheme is, and the scheme sucks. The players aren't made for it. The majority of the players on our defense were damn good at being in a 4-3, and while some players have emerged in this scheme, namely Orakpo and Landry, I just don't believe that Haslett's defense will be successful in this league. We're not even 4 games into the season and the secret is out, and everybody knows it. Our offense isn't to the point yet where we can get into shootouts and win, and the more I see of this defense the more I think our offense is going to have to keep putting up more and more points on the board if it expects to win games. All we heard all offseason was about how the majority of our defensive players would have an easy transition to the 3-4. Well our defense has looked historically bad so far, and honestly I do believe next season we would be better off going back to a 4-3. I understand making the transition to a 3-4 from a 4-3 isn't easy, but we shouldn't be this bad this early in the season. Jim Haslett's defense is trash, and I just don't believe that if he can't make adjustments this early in the season then he won't ever be successful here in Washington. Instead of throwing away the majority of the players this offseason we should just go back to the defense they are comfortable with. Btw congratulations St. Louis. We just gave you your first September win in 4 seasons, and your second overall win in your last 29 games.

09-26-2010, 08:32 PM	#2
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09-26-2010, 08:32 PM	#3
diehard The Starter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Norfolk, Va (OV) Posts: 1,566	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread The defense did lose this game. If Haslett couldn't run the 4-3 defense, he shouldn't have been hired. If Shanahan is stuck on coaching players of yester-years and not your Clinton Portis or Haynesworth, why was he hired? __________________ *'Any NFL team will win with RG3. Imagine how exciting it will be watching him do it.'*

09-26-2010, 08:34 PM	#4
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Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread Don't start. We just finished praising the hell out of this group a little while ago. Reserve the right to retract your statements. __________________ A revolution is coming and it will be televised.

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