Better Decision: Draft/Deal for Bradford or Trade for McNabb/Draft T. Williams?

[warriorzpath]

In hindsight after half a season, would it have been better to have gone after Sam Bradford and not have McNabb and Trent Williams on the team?

I'm on the fence on this and wanted to get some thoughts from others.

[mredskins]

I think Bradford was plan A and McNabb was plan B it is not like they had both deals on the table at the same time and choose McNabb.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I think Bradford was plan A and McNabb was plan B it is not like they had both deals on the table at the same time and choose McNabb.

Since you say that you think Bradford was plan A - do you think that it would have been better to have dealt for the first overall to draft him instead of trading for McNabb and drafting Trent Williams- looking back in hindsight.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Since you say that you think Bradford was plan A - do you think that it would have been better to have dealt for the first overall to draft him instead of trading for McNabb and drafting Trent Williams- looking back in hindsight.

I don't think STL ever want anything for that pick, it was never an option.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't think STL ever want anything for that pick, it was never an option.

I'd like to think that, but what if it was a possibility -- which option would you have preferred in hindsight (and know it might not have been these clear-cut options)? McNabb and T. Williams VS. Bradford

[CRedskinsRule]

I am fine with Trent Williams, while Sam Bradford looks good, remember the Rams had already gotten several high draft linemen. Atleast TW has been a fair replacement for Samuels, and will get better with time I believe, look at Stafford when the Lions didn't strengthen their line first, he was out some last year, and some this year. If we had gone with Bradford, especially not knowing what we would have had to trade, but surely more than McNabb cost us, I think there is the real possibility he would have had a season ending injury. After all we have faced several powerful DL's/OLB's. Definitely needed to solidify the LT when we had the oppportunity.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am fine with Trent Williams, while Sam Bradford looks good, remember the Rams had already gotten several high draft linemen. Atleast TW has been a fair replacement for Samuels, and will get better with time I believe, look at Stafford when the Lions didn't strengthen their line first, he was out some last year, and some this year. If we had gone with Bradford, especially not knowing what we would have had to trade, but surely more than McNabb cost us, I think there is the real possibility he would have had a season ending injury. After all we have faced several powerful DL's/OLB's. Definitely needed to solidify the LT when we had the oppportunity.

I'll play devil's advocate- but what if McNabb continues to play subpar at qb and looking ahead at possible free agents and draft choices at qb in future years -- would it have been a mistake to not deal for Bradford when the redskins had a chance? Keep this in mind and I know it's way to early -- but Bradford is being projected as the next great qb.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I'll play devil's advocate- but what if McNabb continues to play subpar at qb and looking ahead at possible free agents and draft choices at qb in future years -- would it have been a mistake to not deal for Bradford when the redskins had a chance? Keep this in mind and I know it's way to early -- but Bradford is being projected as the next great qb.

well, if McNabb plays sub par as you say, and we build a solid line in front of him, then WHEN we get the qb of the future (something the skins haven't ever really had) at least we will know his blind side is protected, and he will be able to shine. It's a little strange to me, given how it was a nearly unanimous cry to get OL after the last few years debacles, that somehow in hindsight some one is going to say maybe we shoulda gotten a QB. We had NO LT at all. none, zero, zilch. did you really want Heyer protecting SB's blind side? ugh what a scary thought.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

well, if McNabb plays sub par as you say, and we build a solid line in front of him, then WHEN we get the qb of the future (something the skins haven't ever really had) at least we will know his blind side is protected, and he will be able to shine. It's a little strange to me, given how it was a nearly unanimous cry to get OL after the last few years debacles, that somehow in hindsight some one is going to say maybe we shoulda gotten a QB. We had NO LT at all. none, zero, zilch. did you really want Heyer protecting SB's blind side? ugh what a scary thought.

Man ... did I say that I was on the fence... all the stuff you are saying about LT is true, but what if we missed on the next great qb. We may not be in position to do that in the next few years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Man ... did I say that I was on the fence... all the stuff you are saying about LT is true, but what if we missed on the next great qb. We may not be in position to do that in the next few years.

Then we missed him because with all our s**kage last year we still did not s*** bad enough to get the first pick in the draft. Glad he went to a different division, only wish he had gone to the other conference .

Seriously, we couldn't have the 1st pick short of selling off our whole draft, or some other unreasonable compensation, so c'est la draft.

Bottomline, my answer is I am ok with what we did, mainly because it made better football sense given the conditions available at the time the decisions were made.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I'll play devil's advocate- but what if McNabb continues to play subpar at qb and looking ahead at possible free agents and draft choices at qb in future years -- would it have been a mistake to not deal for Bradford when the redskins had a chance? Keep this in mind and I know it's way to early -- but Bradford is being projected as the next great qb.

What if McNabb continues to play sub par? The way you are painting the picture it seems like you are looking for someone to say YES it was a huge mistake to get Mcnabb.
You should probably re-name this thread warrorzpath thinks it was a mistake to get McNabb and is looking for some people to agree with him.

I can play devil's advocate as well....what if Bradford goes into a huge sophomore slump next year and never gets out of it...and McNabb and the Redskins win a supebowl in 2012? What would you say about the trade then? Was it a good one?
It is still too early to decide.

Question to the people upset with McNabb: Did you honestly think Shanahan and McNabb would take a 4-12 team and make it a playoff team in one year? If you did you only have yourself to blame for being upset.
Even though we got the best LT in the 2010 draft in Trent Williams we are still battling with very poor play from our offensive line. Our center, LG and RT are not playing well. I can not imagine how bad we would be with Bradford and no Trent Williams. We would less than 4-4 right now.
Don't get fixated on the whole young QB fantasy world. I don't care how old or young our QB is or where he was drafted.
We won our first and second superbowls with 34 year old Joe Thiesmann and 33 year old Doug Williams. Both cast offs from other teams. Rypien was no lottery pick either.
I do not need a pretty boy high draft pick QB.
The winning-est team in the NFL currently has 3 Sb titles since 2001 and their Qb is a sixth round pick.

[mredskins]

i think everyone on here would agree we rather have Bradford over McNabb which is what you are basically driving at but that truly was never an option.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by mredskins

i think everyone on here would agree we rather have Bradford over McNabb which is what you are basically driving at but that truly was never an option.

It probably wouldn't have been Bradford over McNabb. It would have been more like Bradford VS. McNabb/Williams

[Giantone]

Bradford looks good now, what would he have looked like behind the Redskins O line,better or worse?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Bradford looks good now, what would he have looked like behind the Redskins O line,better or worse?

But since McNabb may possibly not be a redskin next year. Would it have been a better investment to have drafted Bradford -- of course, looking back?