Skins have 10th overall selection. Who do we pick?

[mooby]

According to this link the Redskins have the 10th overall pick in the 2011 draft. So now that we know where we're picking, what do our options look like? If the info on SBNation is right, we are behind the Panthers, Broncos, Bills, Bengals, Cardinals, Browns, 49ers, Titans, and Cowboys in that order. I still think we go qb if a decent one is available, and if one isn't we go for BPA.

Looking at that list we can assume the Panthers, Bills, Bengals, Cardinals, and 49ers will either definitely want a qb upgrade or might be interested if the right one presents itself. None of those are a given though, the Panthers might be interested in sticking with Clausen, same with the Bills and Fitzpatrick, and maybe Cincy with Palmer, but I do feel the Cards will def. seek an upgrade either through draft or fa, and same with the 9ers.

I still believe Andrew Luck is intent on going back to Stanford for his senior year, but I won't say it's not possible because anything can happen. When looking at all this data what do you guys think are the odds that we just get a stopgap option in free agency or stick with Grossman knowing his evaluation period is over and wait till' 2012 to go more long term? I think there's a lot of qb needy teams ahead of us in the draft this year and by the time our turn comes around we might be sol.

[Eknox]

****ing Lineman offense, or defense don't matter..

[gafinfan]

I think the 2011 QB class is quite poor and if Luck doesn't come out it gets much worse imho. That, of course, will not stop alot of GM's from rolling the dice! Though there are some nice propects out there there are no sure fire #1's save Luck. jm2c, of course!

I'd wait till 2012 where the pick'ins are much better!

[Texanskin]

You listed 5 teams that need a QB..... 5 good QB prospects in this updcoming draft dont exist. OL & DL should be 75% of our picks. Re-sign Moss, keep AA, work out T. Austin, see if Malcom Kelly will give you anything. Bring back Rogers & Rocky.Let Chris Wilson, anthony bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson compete for starting positions. We NEED a C and RT....and DL. NO MORE QB TALK UNTIL 2012.....beef up the LINES for a change PLEASE!!!!

[tygarcia]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

You listed 5 teams that need a QB..... 5 good QB prospects in this updcoming draft dont exist. OL & DL should be 75% of our picks. Re-sign Moss, keep AA, work out T. Austin, see if Malcom Kelly will give you anything. Bring back Rogers & Rocky.Let Chris Wilson, anthony bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson compete for starting positions. We NEED a C and RT....and DL. NO MORE QB TALK UNTIL 2012.....beef up the LINES for a change PLEASE!!!!

Could not have said it any better!!!!

[juskins]

Originally Posted by Texanskin

You listed 5 teams that need a QB..... 5 good QB prospects in this updcoming draft dont exist. OL & DL should be 75% of our picks. Re-sign Moss, keep AA, work out T. Austin, see if Malcom Kelly will give you anything. Bring back Rogers & Rocky.Let Chris Wilson, anthony bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Rob Jackson compete for starting positions. We NEED a C and RT....and DL. NO MORE QB TALK UNTIL 2012.....beef up the LINES for a change PLEASE!!!!

I agree with what you are saying. BUT, I am really impressed with some of the QBs coming out this year.

Michael Vick's style of play might just be the shape of things to come. Cam Newton is damn good at bettering Vick. He has size, escape ability and a damn good arm. I am more impress with him than Luck or any other QB. Another QB that shows something is Colin Kaepernick, not a first rounder like Newton, but he's on the same mold as Vick, but bigger. Mallet is huge, 6'7" and has good mobility.

The only thing I worry about with these type of QBs, is injury to their legs when using their legs to gain yardage.

This is a good class of QBs in this draft to take one. But Cam is damn good. Just hope his ego doesn't get in the way with his NFL career.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by juskins

I agree with what you are saying. BUT, I am really impressed with some of the QBs coming out this year.

Michael Vick's style of play might just be the shape of things to come. Cam Newton is damn good at bettering Vick. He has size, escape ability and a damn good arm. I am more impress with him than Luck or any other QB. Another QB that shows something is Colin Kaepernick, not a first rounder like Newton, but he's on the same mold as Vick, but bigger. Mallet is huge, 6'7" and has good mobility.

The only thing I worry about with these type of QBs, is injury to their legs when using their legs to gain yardage.

This is a good class of QBs in this draft to take one. But Cam is damn good. Just hope his ego doesn't get in the way with his NFL career.

Huh? If there is a cement-shoe statue in this year's class, Mallett is it.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Huh? If there is a cement-shoe statue in this year's class, Mallett is it.

Yea that's like saying Marino was like Young... IDK how anyone can say Mallett has quick feet????

[juskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Huh? If there is a cement-shoe statue in this year's class, Mallett is it.

You might be right, but he does have an upside - size, good arm and he can use his legs to get out of trouble. Like you, I thought initially that Mallet was a non-factor as a QB option for us. But if you look at some of his highlights the potential is there.

But, I know what you are saying and I think that there are others better than him. Maybe you should check out this clip of Mallet and get back to me.

You Tube

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Huh? If there is a cement-shoe statue in this year's class, Mallett is it.

Well to be fair Schuab isn't exactly fleet of foot either yet he has easily been the best QB in this system since Elway. Heck if anything his numbers indicate that he's better then Elway in this system especially when you consider the fact that he never had a running game until this year.

[Defensewins]

Build the lines. Give me a physical run blocking OL that likes to knock the snot out defenses and that can pass protect of course. A consistent running game will be huge asset THAT we have not had in a while. MAKES EVERYTHING ELSE SO MUCH EASIER.
How about a defensive line that can consistently stop the run and generate a strong pass rush with out blitzing? What a concept!
Then a stud FS to compliment Dirty 30.
If we can do that and we will be a playoff team.
The Jets, Ravens, Steelers and Patriots have strong lines and they will contend this playoffs. It is cold and windy. Run the ball and stop the run. Playoff football.

[Dirtbag59]

Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.

Originally Posted by gafinfan

I think the 2011 QB class is quite poor and if Luck doesn't come out it gets much worse imho. That, of course, will not stop alot of GM's from rolling the dice! Though there are some nice propects out there there are no sure fire #1's save Luck. jm2c, of course!

I'd wait till 2012 where the pick'ins are much better![/B]

You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.

[skinsfaninok]

Pouncey from Fla or Blackmon from OKST

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.



You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.

A qb at #10 makes sense for a no. of reasons as you've pointed out. I believe Shanahan drafted Tommy Maddox w/a 1st round pick. I remember the logic was that the team wouldn't get another opportunity to draft as high anytime soon. I hope that's the case here, that we don't draft as high as 10 for years.

[gafinfan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Give me a QB for the next 10 years. Specifically Jake Locker. Drafting a Guard or Center at 10 is a huge reach, especially when you consider the fact that we not only have a second round pick this year but the last Second Round Guard drafted by Shanahan, our very own Lennie Friedman. For better or worse free agency will address the immediate concerns along the O-Line.



You bastards. You **** teases. You wretched ingrates! This happens every year. And this is not just directed at gafinfan. This is all of you! Even though we weren't looking for a QB in 2008 we still had people saying that the 2008 QB class was terrible (*cough* Matt Ryan Joe Flacco *cough). Wait till next year they said. Then 2009 roles around (Josh Freeman, Matt Stafford). Oh no that class is terrible, wait till next year that class will be much better.

2010 roles around, the first year we really start looking for a new QB. Now I can deal with 2008 and 2009. However I was promised in writing that the 2011 QB class was going to be amazing. I was frequently told that 2011 was the year we would have our pick from a flurry of QB's. 2011 was going to be the year of the Quarterback. So you know what we dealt with not getting Bradford and McCoy and maybe we lucked out on Clausen. Heck even Tebow looks like a potential Franchise QB at this point.

And now it's 2011 and what do I hear? Wait till 2012. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to sense some sort of pattern here (except with Ruhskisn, as he has remained consistent from last year on his promise to me of QB nirvana).

At this rate we're not going to get a QB worth protecting until Trent is retired along with the 7 other first round fat boys you guys are drafting over the course of the next 7 years (4 OL, 3 DL). Now if you'll excuse me I have to go dial 911 as I'm experiencing chest problems as well as shooting pains in my arm.

PS - It should go without saying but just in case, this piece is written with a tongue in cheek tone. I believe none of you to be wrechted ingrates or cock teases. Nor are any of you bastards.

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I'm cool! Maybe I should have said it differently, there are and will be QB's picked in round one, Without Luck being there imo there are no other QB's that should carry a #1 grade. Which does not mean that there are not some very good prospects out there; some of which will be picked in the first round. I see 4 or 5 quality players with NFL type ability that are not #1 round grades, which is all I'm saying! Tom Brady was taken in the 6th round for a reason, Johnny U was cut from the Giants for a reason, the Steelers passed on Dan Marino for a reason and these are just a very few of the many screw ups that GMs make!

Lets take Locker and or Kaepernick, two guys that some really like with strong arms and some success, imho both are gangly and undisciplined, who when they get to this level without alot of training and support will get killed because of the way they play. Is the team that spends what it takes to pay a top ten QB going to have the patience to let either guy learn and grow or will they throw him to the wolves, as Beck was handled by Camreon and then screwed because of it? John Beck was not a bad prospect who imo should have gone in the third round and sit for at least a year or two ala Arron Rogers and then you would have a quality QB. Will he ever be one now? Shanny seems to think so but really who knows? I still like the guy and he does have upside plus he won't be a INT machine like the guy you had playing the last 3 games, jm2c.

One guy I really like is Greg McElroy, quality guy, smart, can manage a game, has a live arm, WCType, and most of all a winner! Should he go in round one? Hell no! But sombody is going to get a good one imvho if they pick him.