Ramsey named 05' Starter

Gmanc711 · 12-20-2004, 07:38 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1950297

Hell F'n Yeah!!!!

MTK · 12-20-2004, 07:40 PM

WOW, I really didn't expect this to happen until after the season was over.

I'm very happy about this.

Nice job Patrick!

MTK · 12-20-2004, 07:49 PM

Here's the Post Article

Great news indeed

jdlea · 12-20-2004, 07:53 PM

It's about time somebody showed some faith in this kid. I'm glad they cleared up right away that they wouldn't go after a free agent QB. That was really pissing me off thinking that they might go after Brees or Kitna. Thank God...it seems like things might actually be turning around under Gibbs after all. I thought they would, but I did have my doubts. At least now we'll see what might happen with a team that keeps some form of chemistry for at least a season or two.

MTK · 12-20-2004, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jdlea

It's about time somebody showed some faith in this kid. I'm glad they cleared up right away that they wouldn't go after a free agent QB. That was really pissing me off thinking that they might go after Brees or Kitna. Thank God...it seems like things might actually be turning around under Gibbs after all. I thought they would, but I did have my doubts. At least now we'll see what might happen with a team that keeps some form of chemistry for at least a season or two.

Amen.

Stability is the foundation Gibbs is building this team on and it's great to see it's more than just lip service.

I thought it wouldn't happen until after the season, Gibbs must really feel comfortable with Patrick to make this decision so quickly. I definitely applaud this move.

SmootSmack · 12-20-2004, 08:07 PM

I wonder if this may be a pre-emptive strike on Danny Boy. Perhaps Coach Joe got wind of the next free agent master plan the racquetball buddies (Vinny and Danny) were scheming up and decided to publicly pop it before it took on a life of its own.

We all see Gibbs as the coach (where his authority is undisputed), but we have to remember he is also the President (a more mysterious area of responsibility). Now, Dan is stuck b/c he can't "go against" Gibbs. "But, Coach, Jeff George is a changed man, I'm tellin ya..."

monk81 · 12-22-2004, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Amen.

Stability is the foundation Gibbs is building this team on and it's great to see it's more than just lip service.

I thought it wouldn't happen until after the season, Gibbs must really feel comfortable with Patrick to make this decision so quickly. I definitely applaud this move.

I think this is good news from a stability point. In fact I was a bit shocked after I heard comments that Joe said Burnell wasn't done yet...what was that all about I had visions of us going through what we already experienced next season with the same result as this year .....I think the return of Jansen with help with Patrick's protection ......I also hope we get rid of Gardner and get us another WR. Coles is a keeper, playing hurt all year and playing hard.......he gets my respect...........

Kevikazi · 12-20-2004, 07:57 PM

Now, that leaves a question of what to do with Brunell. If we cut him, it's going to hurt us in our salary cap. Hopefully, he will renegotiate his contract to veteran's minimum and stick around as Ramsey's backup.

RedskinRat · 12-20-2004, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevikazi

Now, that leaves a question of what to do with Brunell. If we cut him, it's going to hurt us in our salary cap. Hopefully, he will renegotiate his contract to veteran's minimum and stick around as Ramsey's backup.

He genuinely seems like a good guy, he may just do that. It would really help the organization on salary cap and stop Brunell becoming unemployed. Can anyone see another team being interested now?

SKINSnCANES · 12-20-2004, 08:08 PM

Im glad Brunell isnt getting another look. But im not sure if Ramsey is the real deal yet. He still has happy feet and I dont think ive ever seen him make a second read. He worries about getting killed still and isnt making plays down field. I'll have to see if this is playcalling or his fault.

MTK · 12-20-2004, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SKINSnCANES

Im glad Brunell isnt getting another look. But im not sure if Ramsey is the real deal yet. He still has happy feet and I dont think ive ever seen him make a second read. He worries about getting killed still and isnt making plays down field. I'll have to see if this is playcalling or his fault.

I disagree that he doesn't go through his progressions, he checks down all the time.

As for going down the field I think that's more due to Gibbs keeping a tight leash on him. We saw him going down the field a bit more against San Fran and that should continue as the trust factor grows.

azskinsfan2 · 12-20-2004, 08:55 PM

Glad coach Joe made the decision now. Patrick is doing better the more playing time he gets. We don't need another QB controversy going into next season. Make PR the starter next season and if he can't get it done then and at least get us into the playoffs, then get rid of him and bring in someone new (not Brunnell).

illdefined · 12-20-2004, 08:16 PM

Great news.

this team doesnt need any more change beyond shoring up the OLine. maybe a little on the Dline.

Gibbs had Brunell take 90% of the snaps in practice, big mistake. Ramsey has all the tools, with some hard fought battles vs. Philly, Pittsburgh and two wins (soon to be four) this season, then getting all the snaps in practice next season, those tools will be plenty sharp.

gortiz · 12-20-2004, 10:11 PM

this is awesome news, I can only imagine, that Patrick is going to have a boat load of confidence now, he now needs to make this team his, and I think now he knows he is the CEO of offense, this can only help him and this team!!!

joecrisp · 12-20-2004, 11:03 PM

In addition to affirming his faith in Ramsey as the starter through 2004 and beyond, Gibbs also said (perhaps half-jokingly) he plans to have him throw downfield more in an attempt to at least try to get more PI's called on the opposing defense, to balance out what he suggested are phantom PI calls that are being called against the Skins defense on a regular basis.

Gibbs said he figures if they're going to call the PI's against the Skins defense so often, he needs to find out if they'll call them against the other guys, too.

Maybe Gibbs is finally figuring out that this is how so many other teams are racking up huge passing stats this year. Create the one-on-one matchups deep, and one of four things will happen: the receiver will catch the ball for a big gain/TD, the defender will pick it off, the ball will fall incomplete, or the ref will throw a flag-- most likely on the defender. It's basically a 50% shot at something good happening (catch or defensive penalty), 25% bad (interception), and 25% relatively inconsequential (incomplete pass-- though even an incomplete deep throw will at least make the defense think about keeping a safety deep).

At this point, maybe Gibbs feels like those are odds he should play, especially with the dividends it's paid to other offenses throughout the league.

Now that Ramsey's proving he can be a smart, efficient passer, maybe Gibbs is feeling more comfortable with the idea of taking the next step: developing his deep game.

View Poll Results: What is your reaction to Ramsey being named the starter for 2005?
Great news!	53	72.60%
I'm pleased but not 100% sold on Ramsey just yet	18	24.66%
I think we need to look elsewhere	0	0%
Where's Mark Brunell?!	2	2.74%
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll

12-20-2004, 07:38 PM	#1
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Ramsey named 05' Starter http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1950297 Hell F'n Yeah!!!! __________________ #21

12-20-2004, 08:07 PM	#6
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I wonder if this may be a pre-emptive strike on Danny Boy. Perhaps Coach Joe got wind of the next free agent master plan the racquetball buddies (Vinny and Danny) were scheming up and decided to publicly pop it before it took on a life of its own. We all see Gibbs as the coach (where his authority is undisputed), but we have to remember he is also the President (a more mysterious area of responsibility). Now, Dan is stuck b/c he can't "go against" Gibbs. "But, Coach, Jeff George is a changed man, I'm tellin ya..." __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-20-2004, 08:08 PM	#10
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 42 Posts: 5,454	Im glad Brunell isnt getting another look. But im not sure if Ramsey is the real deal yet. He still has happy feet and I dont think ive ever seen him make a second read. He worries about getting killed still and isnt making plays down field. I'll have to see if this is playcalling or his fault. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

12-20-2004, 08:55 PM	#12
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 67 Posts: 232	Glad coach Joe made the decision now. Patrick is doing better the more playing time he gets. We don't need another QB controversy going into next season. Make PR the starter next season and if he can't get it done then and at least get us into the playoffs, then get rid of him and bring in someone new (not Brunnell). __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

12-20-2004, 07:40 PM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	WOW, I really didn't expect this to happen until after the season was over. I'm very happy about this. Nice job Patrick!

12-20-2004, 07:49 PM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Here's the Post Article Great news indeed

12-20-2004, 07:53 PM	#4
jdlea Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Age: 40 Posts: 3,109	It's about time somebody showed some faith in this kid. I'm glad they cleared up right away that they wouldn't go after a free agent QB. That was really pissing me off thinking that they might go after Brees or Kitna. Thank God...it seems like things might actually be turning around under Gibbs after all. I thought they would, but I did have my doubts. At least now we'll see what might happen with a team that keeps some form of chemistry for at least a season or two.

12-20-2004, 07:57 PM	#8
Kevikazi Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 55 Posts: 187	Now, that leaves a question of what to do with Brunell. If we cut him, it's going to hurt us in our salary cap. Hopefully, he will renegotiate his contract to veteran's minimum and stick around as Ramsey's backup.

12-20-2004, 08:16 PM	#13
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 48 Posts: 2,631	Great news. this team doesnt need any more change beyond shoring up the OLine. maybe a little on the Dline. Gibbs had Brunell take 90% of the snaps in practice, big mistake. Ramsey has all the tools, with some hard fought battles vs. Philly, Pittsburgh and two wins (soon to be four) this season, then getting all the snaps in practice next season, those tools will be plenty sharp.

12-20-2004, 10:11 PM	#14
gortiz Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 498	this is awesome news, I can only imagine, that Patrick is going to have a boat load of confidence now, he now needs to make this team his, and I think now he knows he is the CEO of offense, this can only help him and this team!!!

12-20-2004, 11:03 PM	#15
joecrisp The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Charlottesville, VA Age: 48 Posts: 1,501	In addition to affirming his faith in Ramsey as the starter through 2004 and beyond, Gibbs also said (perhaps half-jokingly) he plans to have him throw downfield more in an attempt to at least try to get more PI's called on the opposing defense, to balance out what he suggested are phantom PI calls that are being called against the Skins defense on a regular basis. Gibbs said he figures if they're going to call the PI's against the Skins defense so often, he needs to find out if they'll call them against the other guys, too. Maybe Gibbs is finally figuring out that this is how so many other teams are racking up huge passing stats this year. Create the one-on-one matchups deep, and one of four things will happen: the receiver will catch the ball for a big gain/TD, the defender will pick it off, the ball will fall incomplete, or the ref will throw a flag-- most likely on the defender. It's basically a 50% shot at something good happening (catch or defensive penalty), 25% bad (interception), and 25% relatively inconsequential (incomplete pass-- though even an incomplete deep throw will at least make the defense think about keeping a safety deep). At this point, maybe Gibbs feels like those are odds he should play, especially with the dividends it's paid to other offenses throughout the league. Now that Ramsey's proving he can be a smart, efficient passer, maybe Gibbs is feeling more comfortable with the idea of taking the next step: developing his deep game.

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