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Old 06-27-2011, 10:16 AM   #1
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ESPN: Teams that are helped/hurt by the new salary cap proposal

NFL: Teams most hurt, helped by salary-cap proposal - ESPN

Positive news indeed this potential off-season. Danny boy gets to blow some cash!!

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1. Washington Redskins: Owner Dan Snyder gave defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth and cornerback DeAngelo Hall around $36 million in bonus money in 2010 to free up room to be a big spender in free agency in 2011. Snyder and Mike Shanahan will have to be creative in how they structure contracts, because the $120 million cap would give them only around $10 million of cap room. On the positive side, the Redskins' current payroll is $75.7 million, meaning Snyder would have to spend close to $45 million in cash to meet the potential minimum floor requirements. Imagine a system that forces Snyder to spend.
Can't wait till the new CBA is finished so we can get to filling in some of our holes currently.


As a bonus, Dallas is getting screwed.

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4. Dallas Cowboys: Owner Jerry Jones made sure his team wouldn't be ripped apart during tough labor times. He's always aggressive in re-signing his top players. But the Cowboys are currently a minimum of $18.9 million over the salary cap, which could spell doom for right tackle Marc Colombo, wide receiver Roy Williams and others. Jones also has to come up with some room to re-sign left tackle Doug Free and others.
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meaning Snyder would have to spend close to $45 million in cash to meet the potential minimum floor requirements. Imagine a system that forces Snyder to spend.
I bet Allen/Shanahan are just chomping at the bit to get free agency started.
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Old 06-27-2011, 12:03 PM   #3
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I bet Allen/Shanahan are just chomping at the bit to get free agency started.
I really hope the front office doesn't go back to the old ways of gasing up Redskin One. Actually I hope they don't really sign anyone except some undrafted free agents.
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I really hope the front office doesn't go back to the old ways of gasing up Redskin One. Actually I hope they don't really sign anyone except some undrafted free agents.
Yeah, that will solve our issues.

We need a starting CB, some offensive linemen, a NT, maybe some more LB depth, and you want to sign UDFAs to fill all of these key needs?

Trying to get Andrew Luck?



I have full confidence in Allen and Shanahan, ESPECIALLY Allen.

The Vinny and Danny Show has been taken off the air. Don't worry so much.
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Yeah, that will solve our issues.

We need a starting CB, some offensive linemen, a NT, maybe some more LB depth, and you want to sign UDFAs to fill all of these key needs?

Trying to get Andrew Luck?



I have full confidence in Allen and Shanahan, ESPECIALLY Allen.

The Vinny and Danny Show has been taken off the air. Don't worry so much.
This team isn't going ANYWHERE next year. Our QB's are REX GROSSMAN AND JOHN BECK w/ rumors of VINCE YOUNG coming in to compete. EEEEWWWW!!!!!!

I want every guy that's in year 1, 2 and 3 to play and play as much as possibe. Let's see if this rookie NT from WV can play. Let's see if Barnes can play CB and start or be a 3rd corner. What about Capers and Cook? We know Rocky can't play inside in a 3-4 so get Riley in there. Kerrigan should walk in and start day one cause Alexander can't rush the passer. Hankerson starts day one. You get my point? Right now this team doesn't need any 29 or 30 year old free agents. It needs to get younger and let some of these guys learn and grow together.
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This team isn't going ANYWHERE next year. Our QB's are REX GROSSMAN AND JOHN BECK w/ rumors of VINCE YOUNG coming in to compete. EEEEWWWW!!!!!!

I want every guy that's in year 1, 2 and 3 to play and play as much as possibe. Let's see if this rookie NT from WV can play. Let's see if Barnes can play CB and start or be a 3rd corner. What about Capers and Cook? We know Rocky can't play inside in a 3-4 so get Riley in there. Kerrigan should walk in and start day one cause Alexander can't rush the passer. Hankerson starts day one. You get my point? Right now this team doesn't need any 29 or 30 year old free agents. It needs to get younger and let some of these guys learn and grow together.
Just because circumstances aren't ideal NOW doesn't mean you don't try to get better. I think that's a huge disconnect. People thinking "getting younger" means "we're going to suck so we might as well put the young guys in if we're going to suck".

If the free agency rules end up being that it's 4-years accrued towards free agency, then you're going to see a lot of 24, 25 or 26 year old guys hit the market place. Still young guys, arguably guys who are going to be hitting their prime. And since there will be a lot of depth at a lot of positions of need, you don't have to spend boatloads of money going after just a few guys.

And you know, I'm kind of tired of hearing the "who cares, we're going to suck because we're going have Rex Grossman or John Beck at quarterback!". Rex made it to a friggin' Super Bowl. (Yeah, I know, defense, run game, Rex never had to throw the ball or something).

Instead of sitting around kvetching saying "woe is the Redskins, why should they even try, they have no quarterback", how about putting some talent around the guys and seeing how they play? Why is the preference that we should just suck it up and play all the rookies and it'll probably suck but at least the young guys get to play.

That's not the way you build a football team. The goal is always going to be to get better, and that includes spending money in free agency. I don't care if Pat friggin' White is our quarterback, I damn sure want the Redskins to improve in every way they can.
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This team isn't going ANYWHERE next year. Our QB's are REX GROSSMAN AND JOHN BECK w/ rumors of VINCE YOUNG coming in to compete. EEEEWWWW!!!!!!
You all have the nerve to talk about me?..lol


Hell, even last year I predicted the team to go 9-7 or 7-9 based off one or two games. I'm more optimistic than you give me credit for.
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This team isn't going ANYWHERE next year. Our QB's are REX GROSSMAN AND JOHN BECK w/ rumors of VINCE YOUNG coming in to compete. EEEEWWWW!!!!!!
Actually Rex is not signed...and McNabb is still a Redskin.
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This team isn't going ANYWHERE next year. Our QB's are REX GROSSMAN AND JOHN BECK w/ rumors of VINCE YOUNG coming in to compete. EEEEWWWW!!!!!!

I want every guy that's in year 1, 2 and 3 to play and play as much as possibe. Let's see if this rookie NT from WV can play. Let's see if Barnes can play CB and start or be a 3rd corner. What about Capers and Cook? We know Rocky can't play inside in a 3-4 so get Riley in there. Kerrigan should walk in and start day one cause Alexander can't rush the passer. Hankerson starts day one. You get my point? Right now this team doesn't need any 29 or 30 year old free agents. It needs to get younger and let some of these guys learn and grow together.
I like your idea, but please remember the only way some of these rookies are going to learn is they need to watch the vets at least under 30 vets. Coach's can coach you but there's nothing like seeing it first hand.
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Yeah, that will solve our issues.

We need a starting CB, some offensive linemen, a NT, maybe some more LB depth, and you want to sign UDFAs to fill all of these key needs?

Trying to get Andrew Luck?
I agree. It's 7-9 or bust this year!
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Imagine a system that forces Snyder to spend.
This is actually terrifying to me.
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This is actually terrifying to me.
It would be a problem if that idiot Vinny were still here. Good thing we have a good GM/Coach combo working in the front office now. They've been on point with contracts so far, and their moves (minus the McNabb deal) so far. I feel confident we'll be back to winning divisions within the next 5 years.
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It would be a problem if that idiot Vinny were still here. Good thing we have a good GM/Coach combo working in the front office now. They've been on point with contracts so far, and their moves (minus the McNabb deal) so far. I feel confident we'll be back to winning divisions within the next 5 years.
They've been on point with how they do the contacts. But they've had some horrible misses on who they've picked...McNabb, Brown, Lichtenstiger, (sp) and the nose tackle Maake K. But they've also had some keepers. The jury is still out and that's why I'd like them to get some more good young players to build around and then go out and get free agents.
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They've been on point with how they do the contacts. But they've had some horrible misses on who they've picked...McNabb, Brown, Lichtenstiger, (sp) and the nose tackle Maake K. But they've also had some keepers. The jury is still out and that's why I'd like them to get some more good young players to build around and then go out and get free agents.
To be fair, they were limited with their moves due to free agents being restricted in the uncapped year. They went after the Broncos T Harris but couldn't get it done. Brown was a consolation prize and did a lot better than Heyer has ever done(i still don't think Brown was ever completely healthy).
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They've been on point with how they do the contacts. But they've had some horrible misses on who they've picked...McNabb, Brown, Lichtenstiger, (sp) and the nose tackle Maake K. But they've also had some keepers. The jury is still out and that's why I'd like them to get some more good young players to build around and then go out and get free agents.
A lot of people are considering Brown a bust, but he really came on at the end of the season and unless we find someone we think can be a legit starting RT, I really want to see him coming back.
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