ericcson out in 49er land

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 01-05-2005, 05:22 PM

just heard that after going,9-23 over two years,the 49ers showed dennis ericcson the exit door.other than dallas,nyg,and iggles,i hate the 49ers just as bad.anyone think grimm has a chance of being the next niners coach?

celts32 · 01-05-2005, 05:25 PM

I don't want to see a lot of firings this year becasue I am afraid Greg Williams name is going to come up as a replacement. That would be just our luck lately...

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 01-05-2005, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I don't want to see a lot of firings this year becasue I am afraid Greg Williams name is going to come up as a replacement. That would be just our luck lately...

i do'nt think williams will leave.why?when gibbs retires in 5 years,he'll be the next redskins coach.plus he is getting like 2 mil a year as assisstant head coach defense.

firstdown · 01-05-2005, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINFAN63

i do'nt think williams will leave.why?when gibbs retires in 5 years,he'll be the next redskins coach.plus he is getting like 2 mil a year as assisstant head coach defense.

I agree. I beleive Danny boy has allready put that on the table to keep williams around and I think he enjoys working with Gibbs.

Gmanc711 · 01-05-2005, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I don't want to see a lot of firings this year becasue I am afraid Greg Williams name is going to come up as a replacement. That would be just our luck lately...

I hear what yer saying, but he will not go to San Fransico. I dont think anyone is going to want to go into that mess right now, there is just nothing to work with whatsoever.

However, that Cleveland Job looks pretty appealing I would think, so I'm hoping that gets closed up soon. Either way I dont think Williams is gone this, year. I'm more worried about next year for him. Personally I think Gibbs might be 3 years and then turn it over to Williams, at least thats how I would like it to work out.

Shane · 01-05-2005, 09:49 PM

Everyone familiar with the 49ers knows that the organization is extremely dysfunctional under the abysmal stewardship of owner John York. York is the husband of Denise DeBartolo, the sister of former owner Edward DeBartolo. No one would want to work with the 49ers who would think they had a shot to get hired almost anywhere else.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-05-2005, 10:05 PM

In addition, GM Terry Donohue is going to be leaving out there so they will be looking to restructure the whole operation. Everything you hear and read about John York is negative. It seems as if he is the 2005 version of Mike Brown.

Williams may take a top job somewhere, but I suspect he will realize that the SF gig is a ticket to a losing record...

That sad sack of a team will take a minimum of 3 years to turn around.

GoSkins! · 01-05-2005, 10:39 PM

If I were Williams, I would have to wonder why Gibbs won't bring in a young offensive coordinator to train if he knew he would be leaving in 3-5 years. I mean, if Gibbs is going to hand over the team to Williams, wouldn't we want the offensive coordinator already here to make the transition easier?

Just wondering....

celts32 · 01-05-2005, 05:40 PM

I hope so but 5 years is a long time to wait. Money means nothing to these coaches once they become millionaires. They are all set for life. If a good opportunity comes up he is going to have a hard time turning it down for a job that might be there for him in 5 years. WHat if in years 4 or 5 of Gibbs tenure his defense is not as good as it is now and Danny has second thoughts? I don't think he will jump at any opportunity, but if a good franchise offers him a head job I would be worried.

firstdown · 01-05-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by celts32

I hope so but 5 years is a long time to wait. Money means nothing to these coaches once they become millionaires. They are all set for life. If a good opportunity comes up he is going to have a hard time turning it down for a job that might be there for him in 5 years. WHat if in years 4 or 5 of Gibbs tenure his defense is not as good as it is now and Danny has second thoughts? I don't think he will jump at any opportunity, but if a good franchise offers him a head job I would be worried.

Good points, you gave that more thought than I did.

saden1 · 01-05-2005, 08:01 PM

When Ericcson got the job I was flabbergasted. He of all people did not deserver a head coaching job. Same goes for El Norv’el.

saden1 · 01-06-2005, 01:51 AM

If you're set up to fail you have to be stupid to take the job. I sure as hell wouldn't take a higher paying job with a nice title just because someone offers the job to me. You have to evaluate all aspects of the job. Your commute time, working conditions, how much input you have, the expectations, etc. If you are an African American and you take the job just because then you get whatever is coming to you. Fortunately for me it's all about being happiness or benjamins. If the two conflict I take happiness.

SmootSmack · 01-06-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

If you're set up to fail you have to be stupid to take the job.

Well yeah ultimately that's the big question. Does the Niners salary cap situation set the next head coach up for failure, or is there a way around that mess?

Carnage · 01-06-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Well yeah ultimately that's the big question. Does the Niners salary cap situation set the next head coach up for failure, or is there a way around that mess?

The cap is cooling down, depending on how TO's numbers went. (though Barlow's new contract sucks for them) Ericson was only hired to man the team while they sucked. Can you imaging expecting to win with that roster?
Also, Did you know that Ericson's arrival marked the first time in more than 20 years that the 49ers didn't use the west coast offense?

sportscurmudgeon · 01-06-2005, 01:39 PM

Prediction:

The 49ers will hire a GM and a coach who are willing to work cheap. They are already going to pay Erickson $7.5M not to coach the team over the next 3 years and Donahue is going to pull down something near $4M not to be the GM.

Williams makes close to $2M here as a coordinator so it is going to take a huge offer from SF for him to go there. That's not gonna happen.

Blache pulls down just over $1M so he might be tempted by an offer of $2M to go to SF. But if he isn't smart enough to see that the squad there is just plain awful, then maybe it would be no loss for him to leave here.

01-05-2005, 05:22 PM	#1
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 61 Posts: 289	ericcson out in 49er land just heard that after going,9-23 over two years,the 49ers showed dennis ericcson the exit door.other than dallas,nyg,and iggles,i hate the 49ers just as bad.anyone think grimm has a chance of being the next niners coach? __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

01-05-2005, 10:05 PM	#7
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	In addition, GM Terry Donohue is going to be leaving out there so they will be looking to restructure the whole operation. Everything you hear and read about John York is negative. It seems as if he is the 2005 version of Mike Brown. Williams may take a top job somewhere, but I suspect he will realize that the SF gig is a ticket to a losing record... That sad sack of a team will take a minimum of 3 years to turn around. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-05-2005, 10:39 PM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	If I were Williams, I would have to wonder why Gibbs won't bring in a young offensive coordinator to train if he knew he would be leaving in 3-5 years. I mean, if Gibbs is going to hand over the team to Williams, wouldn't we want the offensive coordinator already here to make the transition easier? Just wondering.... __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

01-06-2005, 01:39 PM	#15
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Prediction: The 49ers will hire a GM and a coach who are willing to work cheap. They are already going to pay Erickson $7.5M not to coach the team over the next 3 years and Donahue is going to pull down something near $4M not to be the GM. Williams makes close to $2M here as a coordinator so it is going to take a huge offer from SF for him to go there. That's not gonna happen. Blache pulls down just over $1M so he might be tempted by an offer of $2M to go to SF. But if he isn't smart enough to see that the squad there is just plain awful, then maybe it would be no loss for him to leave here. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-05-2005, 05:25 PM	#2
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	I don't want to see a lot of firings this year becasue I am afraid Greg Williams name is going to come up as a replacement. That would be just our luck lately...

01-05-2005, 09:49 PM	#6
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	Everyone familiar with the 49ers knows that the organization is extremely dysfunctional under the abysmal stewardship of owner John York. York is the husband of Denise DeBartolo, the sister of former owner Edward DeBartolo. No one would want to work with the 49ers who would think they had a shot to get hired almost anywhere else.

01-05-2005, 05:40 PM	#9
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 53 Posts: 2,665	I hope so but 5 years is a long time to wait. Money means nothing to these coaches once they become millionaires. They are all set for life. If a good opportunity comes up he is going to have a hard time turning it down for a job that might be there for him in 5 years. WHat if in years 4 or 5 of Gibbs tenure his defense is not as good as it is now and Danny has second thoughts? I don't think he will jump at any opportunity, but if a good franchise offers him a head job I would be worried.

01-05-2005, 08:01 PM	#11
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	When Ericcson got the job I was flabbergasted. He of all people did not deserver a head coaching job. Same goes for El Norv’el.

01-06-2005, 01:51 AM	#12
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	If you're set up to fail you have to be stupid to take the job. I sure as hell wouldn't take a higher paying job with a nice title just because someone offers the job to me. You have to evaluate all aspects of the job. Your commute time, working conditions, how much input you have, the expectations, etc. If you are an African American and you take the job just because then you get whatever is coming to you. Fortunately for me it's all about being happiness or benjamins. If the two conflict I take happiness.

ericcson out in 49er land

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