McCants thinks he's gone

MTK · 01-06-2005, 10:50 AM

Per the WP:

Wideout Darnerien McCants said that he probably won't return, based on being inactive 10 games. Coaches have said that Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash will take increased roles next season, an indication that Gardner may finally be dealt after incessant trade rumors the past two seasons.

McCants would cost the Redskins a cap hit of $1.3 million if he is released before June. Being waived after June 1 would spread the figure out evenly over the next two years. "Paying me the money they did, not to play me, is basically giving away money," said McCants, who signed a three-year, $4.5 million deal in the offseason. "So with Thrash and Taylor ahead of me now, I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't here."

Redskins_P · 01-06-2005, 10:58 AM

I think he's right....

BDBohnzie · 01-06-2005, 11:18 AM

he may not necessarily be gone, but he'll basically be either trade bait or he'll be active for 1/3 to 1/2 the games next season

MTK · 01-06-2005, 12:12 PM

Sorry, but I don't see him drawing much interest in a trade.

He was inactive for 10 games, the staff clearly soured on him very early, chances are he's going to be cut, why would a team want to give up anything for him?

Sounds like the writing is on the wall for McCants.

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-06-2005, 12:37 PM

Maybe it's the lack of seeing him play for many, many games but I remember in 2003 when he was a reliable receiver who caught some tough touchdown passes and long passes. Maybe that year has clouded my vision, but I would like to see what he can do in 2005, UNLESS having him is going to stand in the way of drafting another top receiver.

sportscurmudgeon · 01-06-2005, 12:57 PM

Real estate agents all over the DC area are calling McCants to try to get the listing for his house. Chances are about 98% that he will be "elsewhere" next season.

Too bad. He has the physical skills to be a posession receiver in the NFL. Obviously, his idea of practice and preparation and mental focus on the things that lead up to a game are not what this coaching staff things they ought to be.

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-06-2005, 01:07 PM

It's very weird how the coaches opinion of a player could change so drastically in less than 9 monthes. But if Gibbs didn't want to use him after talking so highly of him in the spring because of Mccant's attitude then I'm totally fine with that. As Gibbs has said repeatedly, he wants players who are true Redskins and think team first. Anyone wonder what we might have gotten for him this spring if we'd done a sign and trade?

MTK · 01-06-2005, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

It's very weird how the coaches opinion of a player could change so drastically in less than 9 monthes. But if Gibbs didn't want to use him after talking so highly of him in the spring because of Mccant's attitude then I'm totally fine with that. As Gibbs has said repeatedly, he wants players who are true Redskins and think team first. Anyone wonder what we might have gotten for him this spring if we'd done a sign and trade?

I think Gibbs liked what he saw from McCants on film and that's why he was re-signed, but once he saw him in practice it was a different story.

SmootSmack · 01-06-2005, 12:56 PM

I think McCants basically put the bullet in his own gun when he openly admitted that he didn't care much for practicing or playing special teams. And McCants, for all his talent, isn't exactly Randy Moss that he half-ass it during the week then be the stud receiver on Sunday

Meanwhile, Jacobs and Thrash worked their asses off on special teams this year, earning the praise of Gibbs. Remember the game (against the Lions I think) when Jacobs had a blocked punt and afterward Gibbs said "I know a lot of our receivers want to be out there catching passes, but this shows that if you work hard you can make a difference even if it's in some other aspect of the game" I'm sure that was a message to DM

FRPLG · 01-06-2005, 01:47 PM

I wonder if the complexity of the offense caused Gibbs to think there wasn't any way McCants could contirbute if he wasn't praticing and preparing mentally?

PSUskinsfan11 · 01-06-2005, 01:59 PM

Weren't the Ravens trying to get McCants from us last year when he was a free agent? Maybe we could get a pick from them at least.

SkinsRock · 01-06-2005, 02:34 PM

Ok, I agree that he's probably gone, but what about this:
This year was for Gardner's chance to prove himself in the "Monk posession receiver" role, and Gibbs knew he had McCants waiting in the wings if RG didn't perform up to par. Similar to how Gibbs used to keep young players on the IR list until he felt they were ready to play. Remember that DM was fairly inexperienced when he first came in, and came from a smaller college. My thought is that maybe Gibbs viewed him like he viewed Ramsey (early on)....too young for now, but given some time, he'll get a shot. I know it's probably not the case, but I thought I'd put it out there...

SkinsRock · 01-06-2005, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PSUskinsfan11

Weren't the Ravens trying to get McCants from us last year when he was a free agent? Maybe we could get a pick from them at least.

I think there were rumors, but I don't know if there was any truth to them. That said, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see either Gardner or McCants in a Ravens uniform in 2005...

memphisskin · 01-06-2005, 02:57 PM

I think Gardner is gone, but there's still hope for McCants. I read somewhere that Muhsin Muhammad might be someone the Skins target, but I agree with skinsrock in that it was McCants youth and relative inexperience that kept him glued to the pine. That plus the two guys ahead of him were busting their hump week in and week out on special teams while McCants decided that practice was beneath him. Riiight...

I'd much rather keep McCants and 50/50 just for the sake of continuity, which we all know we haven't had since Norv Turner was roaming the sidelines and finding new ways to lose games each week. Our cap situation is not in dire straights, but it just seems to make more sense to develop a guy we have signed to a very reasonable deal instead of giving Muhsin Muhammad a big payday.

50/50, he's probably out of here. He's shown flashes of being a decent wideout, although we'd probably have to dramatically edit his highlight tape to get anyone to give us anything higher than a 3rd rounder for him. I love his athleticism, but he's just way too inconsistent.

Is it me, or did Gardner thrive when the lefty was in there while Coles took off when Ramsey played? If so, does playing Hasselbeck mean that Thrash and Jacobs are going to get more catches?

Shane · 01-06-2005, 03:29 PM

If he is refusing to play special teams, that is the reason right there that the coaches have soured on him. How much money does he get paid to be a football player? How many millions of dollars? And he doesn't want to play special teams! No, McCants is too good for the special teams.

It's a shame that we signed him again, but you can't predict that a player will take such a separative, non-team first attitude.

All those millions of dollars he got. The gall he has!

01-06-2005, 10:50 AM	#1
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	McCants thinks he's gone Per the WP: Wideout Darnerien McCants said that he probably won't return, based on being inactive 10 games. Coaches have said that Taylor Jacobs and James Thrash will take increased roles next season, an indication that Gardner may finally be dealt after incessant trade rumors the past two seasons. McCants would cost the Redskins a cap hit of $1.3 million if he is released before June. Being waived after June 1 would spread the figure out evenly over the next two years. "Paying me the money they did, not to play me, is basically giving away money," said McCants, who signed a three-year, $4.5 million deal in the offseason. "So with Thrash and Taylor ahead of me now, I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't here."

01-06-2005, 10:58 AM	#2
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Mccants thinks he's gone I think he's right....

01-06-2005, 11:18 AM	#3
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 45 Posts: 4,628	he may not necessarily be gone, but he'll basically be either trade bait or he'll be active for 1/3 to 1/2 the games next season __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

01-06-2005, 12:37 PM	#5
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Maybe it's the lack of seeing him play for many, many games but I remember in 2003 when he was a reliable receiver who caught some tough touchdown passes and long passes. Maybe that year has clouded my vision, but I would like to see what he can do in 2005, UNLESS having him is going to stand in the way of drafting another top receiver. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-06-2005, 12:57 PM	#6
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Real estate agents all over the DC area are calling McCants to try to get the listing for his house. Chances are about 98% that he will be "elsewhere" next season. Too bad. He has the physical skills to be a posession receiver in the NFL. Obviously, his idea of practice and preparation and mental focus on the things that lead up to a game are not what this coaching staff things they ought to be. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

01-06-2005, 12:12 PM	#4
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,518	Sorry, but I don't see him drawing much interest in a trade. He was inactive for 10 games, the staff clearly soured on him very early, chances are he's going to be cut, why would a team want to give up anything for him? Sounds like the writing is on the wall for McCants.

01-06-2005, 01:07 PM	#7
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 44 Posts: 3,813	It's very weird how the coaches opinion of a player could change so drastically in less than 9 monthes. But if Gibbs didn't want to use him after talking so highly of him in the spring because of Mccant's attitude then I'm totally fine with that. As Gibbs has said repeatedly, he wants players who are true Redskins and think team first. Anyone wonder what we might have gotten for him this spring if we'd done a sign and trade?

01-06-2005, 12:56 PM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I think McCants basically put the bullet in his own gun when he openly admitted that he didn't care much for practicing or playing special teams. And McCants, for all his talent, isn't exactly Randy Moss that he half-ass it during the week then be the stud receiver on Sunday Meanwhile, Jacobs and Thrash worked their asses off on special teams this year, earning the praise of Gibbs. Remember the game (against the Lions I think) when Jacobs had a blocked punt and afterward Gibbs said "I know a lot of our receivers want to be out there catching passes, but this shows that if you work hard you can make a difference even if it's in some other aspect of the game" I'm sure that was a message to DM __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

01-06-2005, 01:47 PM	#10
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 10,164	I wonder if the complexity of the offense caused Gibbs to think there wasn't any way McCants could contirbute if he wasn't praticing and preparing mentally?

01-06-2005, 01:59 PM	#11
PSUskinsfan11 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the port, PA Age: 40 Posts: 692	Weren't the Ravens trying to get McCants from us last year when he was a free agent? Maybe we could get a pick from them at least.

01-06-2005, 02:34 PM	#12
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Ok, I agree that he's probably gone, but what about this: This year was for Gardner's chance to prove himself in the "Monk posession receiver" role, and Gibbs knew he had McCants waiting in the wings if RG didn't perform up to par. Similar to how Gibbs used to keep young players on the IR list until he felt they were ready to play. Remember that DM was fairly inexperienced when he first came in, and came from a smaller college. My thought is that maybe Gibbs viewed him like he viewed Ramsey (early on)....too young for now, but given some time, he'll get a shot. I know it's probably not the case, but I thought I'd put it out there...

01-06-2005, 02:57 PM	#14
memphisskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville, TN Age: 53 Posts: 960	I think Gardner is gone, but there's still hope for McCants. I read somewhere that Muhsin Muhammad might be someone the Skins target, but I agree with skinsrock in that it was McCants youth and relative inexperience that kept him glued to the pine. That plus the two guys ahead of him were busting their hump week in and week out on special teams while McCants decided that practice was beneath him. Riiight... I'd much rather keep McCants and 50/50 just for the sake of continuity, which we all know we haven't had since Norv Turner was roaming the sidelines and finding new ways to lose games each week. Our cap situation is not in dire straights, but it just seems to make more sense to develop a guy we have signed to a very reasonable deal instead of giving Muhsin Muhammad a big payday. 50/50, he's probably out of here. He's shown flashes of being a decent wideout, although we'd probably have to dramatically edit his highlight tape to get anyone to give us anything higher than a 3rd rounder for him. I love his athleticism, but he's just way too inconsistent. Is it me, or did Gardner thrive when the lefty was in there while Coles took off when Ramsey played? If so, does playing Hasselbeck mean that Thrash and Jacobs are going to get more catches?

01-06-2005, 03:29 PM	#15
Shane Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 277	If he is refusing to play special teams, that is the reason right there that the coaches have soured on him. How much money does he get paid to be a football player? How many millions of dollars? And he doesn't want to play special teams! No, McCants is too good for the special teams. It's a shame that we signed him again, but you can't predict that a player will take such a separative, non-team first attitude. All those millions of dollars he got. The gall he has!

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