Jim Haslett's inconsist defense

SFREDSKIN · 12-25-2011, 12:38 PM

If there's one off season move I would like to see the Redskins to make, is to replace Jim Haslett as DC, his defenses drive me nuts. One week they play great, the next week they allow RB's and QB's to run at will. The one thing I've noticed with Haslett is that he has not been able to adjust his defense to scrambling type QB's like Vick, Newton, Webb/Ponder. 2 years now with the same problem and no fix. If Leslie Frazier or Raheem Morris get fired, I would like to see either one as a replacement. Your thoughts?

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-25-2011, 12:43 PM

I like the inconsist part.

SFREDSKIN · 12-25-2011, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I like the inconsist part.

I had just woken up, Thanks!

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-25-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I had just woken up, Thanks!

Just giving you ish.

hooskins · 12-25-2011, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I like the inconsist part.

Haha yeah, the Skins D is as inconsistent as the spelling in the OP.

Just messing with ya SF!

backrow · 12-25-2011, 11:53 PM

I'm not saying get rid of Jim Useless. Just never wanted him to begin with.

His defensive track record is less than stellar except when he was a player.

Defensive rankings and statistics aside, what was our W-L record last year, and what is it again this year? Anyone? Anyone?

Yea! That's my point!

#56fanatic · 12-29-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by backrow

I'm not saying get rid of Jim Useless. Just never wanted him to begin with.

His defensive track record is less than stellar except when he was a player.

Defensive rankings and statistics aside, what was our W-L record last year, and what is it again this year? Anyone? Anyone?

Yea! That's my point!

I believe the turnover machine that is our offense has the honor of accepting blame for the 5-10 record. Our Defense has been the one bright sport in the rebuilding process. Oh and our kickoff coverage. LOL

GridIron26 · 12-25-2011, 12:51 PM

I believe Haslett will have one more year to prove himself, that is if Shanny decide not to stick with him all the way. The defense might be inconsistent but this year is big improvement compared to last year, and that credit goes to Haslett.

CultBrennan59 · 12-25-2011, 01:13 PM

Haslett isn't the problem. This defense is good/capable enough to be a super bowl worthy defense; its the offense that holds it back, and makes their stats look worse than what they really are. My only concern with our defense is that we can't get to the QB quick enough. We only sacked brady once. Giants got to him 5 times. We gotta get creative when we blitz the QB quickly.

SFREDSKIN · 12-25-2011, 01:17 PM

The thing that worries me about Haslett is that he has always had the same inconsistent issues everywhere he's been, NO, Rams, Pitt. One week great play next week you are wondering what happened to the D from the previous week, something you never worried about w/ Petitbone. Yesterday they allowed 33 pts. do you call that a good D? With the talent on the D it should be better especially against the Vikes.

#56fanatic · 12-25-2011, 02:54 PM

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The thing that worries me about Haslett is that he has always had the same inconsistent issues everywhere he's been, NO, Rams, Pitt. One week great play next week you are wondering what happened to the D from the previous week, something you never worried about w/ Petitbone. Yesterday they allowed 33 pts. do you call that a good D? With the talent on the D it should be better especially against the Vikes.

So would you say holding teams like dallas to 6 field goals, holding pats down pretty much the game, holding the jets for 55 minutes, 49ers....is that good.

amazing how after a loss all people can focus on is negative and try make shit up to say someone needs to get fired. Haslett has formed a top 10 defense with one draft and one offseason. From 32 in the NFL to TOP 10!! What the hell is wrong with people. This is why we are so damn awful every other year because we change this and change that and are not consistant. Stay the course, and maybe we'll be in the top 3 next year... but that will probably not be good enough because we should be #1.

SFREDSKIN · 12-25-2011, 03:04 PM

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So would you say holding teams like dallas to 6 field goals, holding pats down pretty much the game, holding the jets for 55 minutes, 49ers....is that good.

amazing how after a loss all people can focus on is negative and try make shit up to say someone needs to get fired. Haslett has formed a top 10 defense with one draft and one offseason. From 32 in the NFL to TOP 10!! What the hell is wrong with people. This is why we are so damn awful every other year because we change this and change that and are not consistant. Stay the course, and maybe we'll be in the top 3 next year... but that will probably not be good enough because we should be #1.

Statistics are nice, but execution is better. This has nothing with the loss, I'm just frustrated with inconsistent play and lack of adjustment. Tell me something, has he adjusted to scrambling QB's in the last 2 years? I want the best ****ing D every week not every other week or 2 weeks. Tell me why is Haslett like a gypsy going from team to team over the years? It all starts with the DC not the talent.

#56fanatic · 12-25-2011, 10:53 PM

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Statistics are nice, but execution is better. This has nothing with the loss, I'm just frustrated with inconsistent play and lack of adjustment. Tell me something, has he adjusted to scrambling QB's in the last 2 years? I want the best ****ing D every week not every other week or 2 weeks. Tell me why is Haslett like a gypsy going from team to team over the years? It all starts with the DC not the talent.

So Vick, Cam and who ever else you listed hasn't done the same stuff to other teams they have played against. Vick and Cam are rare QB's that you have to account for both as a runner and a passer. I live in Charlotte and Cam gives every single team they play trouble. Haslett is not the problem. What else to you want dude. 32nd ranked to 10th over all ranked. I just dont get it. Dont blame him for a loss or inconsistant play. Big plays that I can remember for example against Dallas were individual players getting beat or screwing up.

I can't believe people want to get rid of a coach that has visibly made our defense one of the top defenses in the NFL. mind boggling.

Lotus · 12-25-2011, 01:19 PM

The defense looked poor against the Vikes and the immortal Joe Webb.

That said, overall the defense has been very good this year and has not been our problem. Sure, we could use more creative blitzing and the secondary has had its troubles. But if we had a competent offense we'd be in the playoff hunt. So it is hard for me to bust on Haslett too much. Raheem Morris would be nice but I would not mind bringing back Haslett.

GTripp0012 · 12-25-2011, 01:42 PM

Through 15 Weeks, the Redskins had one of the most consistent defenses in the NFL.

That's not true anymore, obviously, but it not like inconsistency is a plague that runs through this team. It's a veteran laden defense that offers you pretty much the same effort every week. This week, it failed to stop Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart. Oh well. I'll be more interested to see how it does next week against a bunch of guys we'll see again in 2012 when they are trying to win the super bowl.

And if they shut down the Eagles, no one is going to sit and lament how inconsistent they were the last two weeks.

12-25-2011, 12:43 PM	#2
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 35 Posts: 14,169	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense I like the inconsist part. __________________ https://open.spotify.com/artist/1NG9zNxqMP8cYNP72QqUQT Shameless self-promotion. It is what it is.

12-25-2011, 11:53 PM	#6
backrow The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: 36.28 x 76.22 Age: 73 Posts: 1,812	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense I'm not saying get rid of Jim Useless. Just never wanted him to begin with. His defensive track record is less than stellar except when he was a player. Defensive rankings and statistics aside, what was our W-L record last year, and what is it again this year? Anyone? Anyone? Yea! That's my point! __________________ '37, '42, '83, '88, '92. Championship! Last edited by backrow; 12-26-2011 at 12:31 AM.

12-25-2011, 12:51 PM	#8
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 36 Posts: 3,439	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense I believe Haslett will have one more year to prove himself, that is if Shanny decide not to stick with him all the way. The defense might be inconsistent but this year is big improvement compared to last year, and that credit goes to Haslett.

12-25-2011, 01:13 PM	#9
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense Haslett isn't the problem. This defense is good/capable enough to be a super bowl worthy defense; its the offense that holds it back, and makes their stats look worse than what they really are. My only concern with our defense is that we can't get to the QB quick enough. We only sacked brady once. Giants got to him 5 times. We gotta get creative when we blitz the QB quickly. __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

12-25-2011, 01:17 PM	#10
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense The thing that worries me about Haslett is that he has always had the same inconsistent issues everywhere he's been, NO, Rams, Pitt. One week great play next week you are wondering what happened to the D from the previous week, something you never worried about w/ Petitbone. Yesterday they allowed 33 pts. do you call that a good D? With the talent on the D it should be better especially against the Vikes. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-25-2011, 12:38 PM	#1
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Jim Haslett's inconsistent defense If there's one off season move I would like to see the Redskins to make, is to replace Jim Haslett as DC, his defenses drive me nuts. One week they play great, the next week they allow RB's and QB's to run at will. The one thing I've noticed with Haslett is that he has not been able to adjust his defense to scrambling type QB's like Vick, Newton, Webb/Ponder. 2 years now with the same problem and no fix. If Leslie Frazier or Raheem Morris get fired, I would like to see either one as a replacement. Your thoughts? __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth Last edited by SFREDSKIN; 12-25-2011 at 12:53 PM.

12-25-2011, 01:19 PM	#14
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense The defense looked poor against the Vikes and the immortal Joe Webb. That said, overall the defense has been very good this year and has not been our problem. Sure, we could use more creative blitzing and the secondary has had its troubles. But if we had a competent offense we'd be in the playoff hunt. So it is hard for me to bust on Haslett too much. Raheem Morris would be nice but I would not mind bringing back Haslett. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

12-25-2011, 01:42 PM	#15
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Evanston, IL Age: 36 Posts: 15,994	Re: Jim Haslett's inconsist defense Through 15 Weeks, the Redskins had one of the most consistent defenses in the NFL. That's not true anymore, obviously, but it not like inconsistency is a plague that runs through this team. It's a veteran laden defense that offers you pretty much the same effort every week. This week, it failed to stop Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart. Oh well. I'll be more interested to see how it does next week against a bunch of guys we'll see again in 2012 when they are trying to win the super bowl. And if they shut down the Eagles, no one is going to sit and lament how inconsistent they were the last two weeks. __________________ according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

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