2000's Patriots VS. 1980's Redskins

d151b · 02-02-2005, 03:16 PM

I posed this question to espn's Greg Garber earlier and here's the response I got. Do you see it as well? Will Joe do it again??

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=7179

davis (dallas texas): Greg, This Pats team bears a striking resemblence to a very dominant team of the 80's that was orchestrated by Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs. Fundamentaly sound in every aspect, little to no mistakes, several less than household names coming together as one to play for the team and not themselves, not very flashy but effective, and so on... Do you see the comparison, and do you see any other team doing it in the near future?

Greg Garber: (2:33 PM ET ) David: Nice observation. They DO remind me of those Gibbs' Redskins. I covered the NY Giants during their eight-year SB run and was always impressed with Gibbs' teams. Belichick and Gibbs might be the most anal-retentive, detail-oriented coaches in the history of the game.

MTK · 02-02-2005, 03:36 PM

There are definitely some similarities.

dirtbag2112 · 02-02-2005, 04:17 PM

...very accurate comparison. Belichick is doing all this in todays nfl with the salray cap and free agency. he also has a quaterback who as the sports junkis put it "has been touched by god". Brady had a 103 temperature the night before the conference championship game and put up 41 points on the number 1 ranked defense in the league. let's see Gibbs do it next year!! I think we will see Ramsey's emergance as a solid quaterback in '05.

heybigstar · 02-02-2005, 04:28 PM

Gibbs just got his feet wet last year, and so did Ramsey

SKINSnCANES · 02-02-2005, 05:32 PM

I see bright things in our future. itll be nice not having to worry about the draft and just saying we'll take best available with the 32nd pick, lol

offiss · 02-02-2005, 05:40 PM

The difference between the 2 team's is this, the Pat's have a better QB, and a better defensive scheme than we had. We know have a great defensive coordinator in William's, and Gibb's has IMO the best talent at QB let's see what he can do with them.

MTK · 02-02-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

The difference between the 2 team's is this, the Pat's have a better QB, and a better defensive scheme than we had. We know have a great defensive coordinator in William's, and Gibb's has IMO the best talent at QB let's see what he can do with them.

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but are you saying Ramsey is more talented than Brady?

offiss · 02-02-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure if I understand you correctly, but are you saying Ramsey is more talented than Brady?

NO! I am saying he's more talented than William's, Rypien, with a better arm than Theisman I think he will prove out to be the best Gibb's has had to work with.

MTK · 02-02-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

NO! I am saying he's more talented than William's, Rypien, with a better arm than Theisman I think he will prove out to be the best Gibb's has had to work with.

gotcha

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 02-02-2005, 06:50 PM

this year's pats have had a great run,as the 83 skins did before the raiders brought them down to earth.the redskins were due a badgame that year,and it came on superbowl sunday in tampa that year.are'nt the pats due a bad game when it's all on the line?

monk81 · 02-06-2005, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGREDSKINFAN63

this year's pats have had a great run,as the 83 skins did before the raiders brought them down to earth.the redskins were due a badgame that year,and it came on superbowl sunday in tampa that year.are'nt the pats due a bad game when it's all on the line?

The Redskins made some terrible mistakes in the first half of that Super Bowl......especially Joey T's interception right before the half.....I laugh when he criticizes the QB's and tells them to throw it away instead of making it a bad throw.........that interception against the Raiders made the score unreachable............. BAD MEMORIES

SmootSmack · 02-06-2005, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by monk81

The Redskins made some terrible mistakes in the first half of that Super Bowl......especially Joey T's interception right before the half.....I laugh when he criticizes the QB's and tells them to throw it away instead of making it a bad throw.........that interception against the Raiders made the score unreachable............. BAD MEMORIES

I still have nightmares when I hear the name Jack Squirek. I had a bad feeling right from the start of that game when Jeff Hayes' punt was blocked

offiss · 02-07-2005, 03:26 AM

I heard an interesting interview with Joey T. on that play, he was on the sideline with Gibb's when Gibb's told him to run that play and Theisman said he wanted to take a knee, Gibb's said run it because they ran it earlier in the year when we played them and it worked for like 90 yard's, Theisman then said yea but they have seen it don't you think they will be looking for it? Gibb's said no now run it, so Theisman went to the huddle called the play and as he was walking to the line he was looking at Gibb's trying to get him to call the play off and take a knee when Gibb's motioned to him to run it, so he did, the rest is history. When that play was called it was even then uncharectoristic for Gibb's, I remember thinking what's the point even if it work's there won't be enough time to get another play off defiently a bad call even if it haden't been intercepted.

monk81 · 02-08-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by offiss

I heard an interesting interview with Joey T. on that play, he was on the sideline with Gibb's when Gibb's told him to run that play and Theisman said he wanted to take a knee, Gibb's said run it because they ran it earlier in the year when we played them and it worked for like 90 yard's, Theisman then said yea but they have seen it don't you think they will be looking for it? Gibb's said no now run it, so Theisman went to the huddle called the play and as he was walking to the line he was looking at Gibb's trying to get him to call the play off and take a knee when Gibb's motioned to him to run it, so he did, the rest is history. When that play was called it was even then uncharectoristic for Gibb's, I remember thinking what's the point even if it work's there won't be enough time to get another play off defiently a bad call even if it haden't been intercepted.

We didn't play our game.....very unGibbslike.........SIGH::::......................

SmootSmack · 02-09-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by offiss

I heard an interesting interview with Joey T. on that play, he was on the sideline with Gibb's when Gibb's told him to run that play and Theisman said he wanted to take a knee, Gibb's said run it because they ran it earlier in the year when we played them and it worked for like 90 yard's, Theisman then said yea but they have seen it don't you think they will be looking for it? Gibb's said no now run it, so Theisman went to the huddle called the play and as he was walking to the line he was looking at Gibb's trying to get him to call the play off and take a knee when Gibb's motioned to him to run it, so he did, the rest is history. When that play was called it was even then uncharectoristic for Gibb's, I remember thinking what's the point even if it work's there won't be enough time to get another play off defiently a bad call even if it haden't been intercepted.

At any point did Theismann take any blame for the throw?

02-02-2005, 03:16 PM	#1
d151b Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 157	2000's Patriots VS. 1980's Redskins I posed this question to espn's Greg Garber earlier and here's the response I got. Do you see it as well? Will Joe do it again?? http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=7179 davis (dallas texas): Greg, This Pats team bears a striking resemblence to a very dominant team of the 80's that was orchestrated by Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs. Fundamentaly sound in every aspect, little to no mistakes, several less than household names coming together as one to play for the team and not themselves, not very flashy but effective, and so on... Do you see the comparison, and do you see any other team doing it in the near future? Greg Garber: (2:33 PM ET ) David: Nice observation. They DO remind me of those Gibbs' Redskins. I covered the NY Giants during their eight-year SB run and was always impressed with Gibbs' teams. Belichick and Gibbs might be the most anal-retentive, detail-oriented coaches in the history of the game.

02-02-2005, 04:28 PM	#4
heybigstar Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Age: 42 Posts: 375	Gibbs just got his feet wet last year, and so did Ramsey __________________ Hail to the Redskins.

02-02-2005, 05:32 PM	#5
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,455	I see bright things in our future. itll be nice not having to worry about the draft and just saying we'll take best available with the 32nd pick, lol __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

02-02-2005, 06:50 PM	#10
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 62 Posts: 289	this year's pats have had a great run,as the 83 skins did before the raiders brought them down to earth.the redskins were due a badgame that year,and it came on superbowl sunday in tampa that year.are'nt the pats due a bad game when it's all on the line? __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

02-02-2005, 03:36 PM	#2
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,038	There are definitely some similarities.

02-02-2005, 04:17 PM	#3
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	...very accurate comparison. Belichick is doing all this in todays nfl with the salray cap and free agency. he also has a quaterback who as the sports junkis put it "has been touched by god". Brady had a 103 temperature the night before the conference championship game and put up 41 points on the number 1 ranked defense in the league. let's see Gibbs do it next year!! I think we will see Ramsey's emergance as a solid quaterback in '05.

02-02-2005, 05:40 PM	#6
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	The difference between the 2 team's is this, the Pat's have a better QB, and a better defensive scheme than we had. We know have a great defensive coordinator in William's, and Gibb's has IMO the best talent at QB let's see what he can do with them.

02-07-2005, 03:26 AM	#13
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	I heard an interesting interview with Joey T. on that play, he was on the sideline with Gibb's when Gibb's told him to run that play and Theisman said he wanted to take a knee, Gibb's said run it because they ran it earlier in the year when we played them and it worked for like 90 yard's, Theisman then said yea but they have seen it don't you think they will be looking for it? Gibb's said no now run it, so Theisman went to the huddle called the play and as he was walking to the line he was looking at Gibb's trying to get him to call the play off and take a knee when Gibb's motioned to him to run it, so he did, the rest is history. When that play was called it was even then uncharectoristic for Gibb's, I remember thinking what's the point even if it work's there won't be enough time to get another play off defiently a bad call even if it haden't been intercepted.

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