The Reason Art Monk isnt in the Hall

Gmanc711 · 02-05-2005, 09:40 PM

I know there is a thread about this; however, I didnt want this to get lost. I'm reading a interview on cnnsi.com, with Dr.Z , he was talking about what went on inside of the room when they were voting. I know many of us were uspet that Monk was left out of the hall, but rest easy, because Dr. Z has made me feel so much better.... Dr.Z and GMANC711 present to you the reason that Art Monk did not make the hall of fame this year.....

"SI.COM: How about Art Monk?

Dr. Z: Monk was hurt by Michael Irvin being eligible this year. It's done alphabetically, and Irvin was presented before Monk. I think that really hurt him."

The Reason Art Monk got f*cked again, is because M comes after I in the alphabet.

Heres the link if anyone wants to read that bullcrap.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....qa/index.html

SmootSmack · 02-06-2005, 12:51 AM

That's just lame. I mean I think the other way around might make some more sense because you could say Irvin is fresher in everyone's minds when the actual final voting is done.

Next time they should just go by first names since Art comes before Michael

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-06-2005, 01:02 AM

I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT! My God. I mean at least MAKE SOMETHING UP that sounds more feasible than that. Jeebus.

Gmanc711 · 02-06-2005, 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT! My God. I mean at least MAKE SOMETHING UP that sounds more feasible than that. Jeebus.

Seriously. If he said Irvin was more insturmental to his team, or more important to his team, I could disagree with it, but at least its a real reason.

SmootSmack · 02-06-2005, 01:42 AM

or maybe this:

"SI.COM: How about Art Monk?

Dr Z: Monk was hurt by the fact that Irvin hooked us up with some nice quality cocaine and hookers that were on point! Monk's fruit basket was nice but we're talking Hall of Fame ballots here

itvnetop · 02-06-2005, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

or maybe this:

"SI.COM: How about Art Monk?

Dr Z: Monk was hurt by the fact that Irvin hooked us up with some nice quality cocaine and hookers that were on point! Monk's fruit basket was nice but we're talking Hall of Fame ballots here

azskinsfan2 · 02-06-2005, 12:02 PM

How do we get Smootsmack on the HOF voting team??? :thumb:

GoSkins! · 02-06-2005, 12:11 PM

I can't think of a case where a QB has the same number of records and superbowl win as Monk and isn't in the hall. The fact that he was a wide receiver hurt him. 22 1st string football positions, 2 QB's were "locks" for 2 of the 6 openings. Every other position is going against the odds. That's just the way it is. The Skins won with three different QB's, three different RB's but Monk and Grimm were there for each. These guys need to think a little harder.

Skins fan 44 · 02-06-2005, 12:13 PM

The only way now Monk will make the Hall of Fame is if he gets in the press booth or pregame as sad as that sounds. He would have to get his face out there and become popular. Or he could always hook up with some cocaine and hookers.
Edit: I would say he could be dead by the time he gets in. Look for next year or soon after that he wont even make the top 10.

skinsguy · 02-06-2005, 05:00 PM

If the alphabet is the reason for Monk not getting into the Hall of Fame then how can you explain Steve Young???

monk81 · 02-06-2005, 08:25 PM

Monk did what he did on the football field with CLASS and QUIET DIGNITY..........
not "flashy" enough for for the hall of fame..........no bimbos, no drugs, and Monk doesn't have his own clothing line........ GRRRRRRRRRRRR

And as Darrell Green pointed out Irvin pushed off all the time too ...........
And if you read some of the columns here in Texas bemoaning the fact that Irvin didn't make it to the Hall you'd be even MADDER..........

monk81 · 02-06-2005, 08:27 PM

Are these Hall of Fame Voters former politcians??????????

Redskins8588 · 02-07-2005, 05:39 AM

I personaly do not believe that Young should have made it this time around. I am not saying that because I wanted Art in there, I am saying that because Steve Young's career stats are not very impressive when it comes to the QB postition. I mean Vinny T. has more career passing yards, touchdowns, and completions than Young. What about Warren Moon, his numbers are just as good as Youngs.

I am not saying that Young should never make it to the HOF, I dont feel that his numbers are so good and that he was so good that he should be elected in his first year.

irish · 02-07-2005, 01:40 PM

Young made the HOF because of the idiotic idea that winning a super bowl somehow makes a player a true great and the ring validates his place in the hall. Super bowl championships are very overrated when it comes to making a player HOF worthy.

Dan Marino is the greatest qb of all time and I have hear people all the time say he is questionable because he was not lucky enough to be on a super bowl winning team.

MTK · 02-07-2005, 02:18 PM

Guys,

Young led the league in passing 6 times (that's tied for the NFL record), he's got over 30,000 passing yards and over 4000 rushing yards. He has 232 passing TD's and 43 rushing TD's as well. He's ranked in the top 20 of all-time QB's in 3 different categories, completions, passing yards and passing TD's.

He was a 7 time Pro Bowl selection and 2 time league MVP.

I'd say numbers wise he stacks up pretty well, and his Super Bowl win where he tossed 6 TD's (Super Bowl record) is just icing on the cake.

Personally I can't argue with his selection, just my opinion of course.

02-05-2005, 09:40 PM	#1
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	The Reason Art Monk isnt in the Hall I know there is a thread about this; however, I didnt want this to get lost. I'm reading a interview on cnnsi.com, with Dr.Z , he was talking about what went on inside of the room when they were voting. I know many of us were uspet that Monk was left out of the hall, but rest easy, because Dr. Z has made me feel so much better.... Dr.Z and GMANC711 present to you the reason that Art Monk did not make the hall of fame this year..... "SI.COM: How about Art Monk? Dr. Z: Monk was hurt by Michael Irvin being eligible this year. It's done alphabetically, and Irvin was presented before Monk. I think that really hurt him." The Reason Art Monk got f*cked again, is because M comes after I in the alphabet. Heres the link if anyone wants to read that bullcrap.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....qa/index.html __________________ #21

02-06-2005, 12:51 AM	#2
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	That's just lame. I mean I think the other way around might make some more sense because you could say Irvin is fresher in everyone's minds when the actual final voting is done. Next time they should just go by first names since Art comes before Michael __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-06-2005, 01:02 AM	#3
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,233	I CAN'T BELIEVE HE ACTUALLY SAID THAT! My God. I mean at least MAKE SOMETHING UP that sounds more feasible than that. Jeebus. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-06-2005, 01:42 AM	#5
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	or maybe this: "SI.COM: How about Art Monk? Dr Z: Monk was hurt by the fact that Irvin hooked us up with some nice quality cocaine and hookers that were on point! Monk's fruit basket was nice but we're talking Hall of Fame ballots here __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

02-06-2005, 12:02 PM	#7
azskinsfan2 Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, Arizona Age: 67 Posts: 232	How do we get Smootsmack on the HOF voting team??? :thumb: __________________ Long live Sonny J!!! Rock on Redskins!!!!!!

02-06-2005, 12:11 PM	#8
GoSkins! The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Yorktown, Va Age: 55 Posts: 1,587	I can't think of a case where a QB has the same number of records and superbowl win as Monk and isn't in the hall. The fact that he was a wide receiver hurt him. 22 1st string football positions, 2 QB's were "locks" for 2 of the 6 openings. Every other position is going against the odds. That's just the way it is. The Skins won with three different QB's, three different RB's but Monk and Grimm were there for each. These guys need to think a little harder. __________________ Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts. A. Einstien

02-06-2005, 12:13 PM	#9
Skins fan 44 Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brazil, IN Age: 54 Posts: 883	The only way now Monk will make the Hall of Fame is if he gets in the press booth or pregame as sad as that sounds. He would have to get his face out there and become popular. Or he could always hook up with some cocaine and hookers. Edit: I would say he could be dead by the time he gets in. Look for next year or soon after that he wont even make the top 10. __________________ HTTR!

02-06-2005, 05:00 PM	#10
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	If the alphabet is the reason for Monk not getting into the Hall of Fame then how can you explain Steve Young??? __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

02-06-2005, 08:25 PM	#11
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Monk did what he did on the football field with CLASS and QUIET DIGNITY.......... not "flashy" enough for for the hall of fame..........no bimbos, no drugs, and Monk doesn't have his own clothing line........ GRRRRRRRRRRRR And as Darrell Green pointed out Irvin pushed off all the time too ........... And if you read some of the columns here in Texas bemoaning the fact that Irvin didn't make it to the Hall you'd be even MADDER..........

02-06-2005, 08:27 PM	#12
monk81 The Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: TEXAS Posts: 2,029	Are these Hall of Fame Voters former politcians??????????

02-07-2005, 05:39 AM	#13
Redskins8588 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ridgway, PA Age: 46 Posts: 2,519	I personaly do not believe that Young should have made it this time around. I am not saying that because I wanted Art in there, I am saying that because Steve Young's career stats are not very impressive when it comes to the QB postition. I mean Vinny T. has more career passing yards, touchdowns, and completions than Young. What about Warren Moon, his numbers are just as good as Youngs. I am not saying that Young should never make it to the HOF, I dont feel that his numbers are so good and that he was so good that he should be elected in his first year. __________________ "I am the best at what I do, and what I do isn't very nice" - Sean Taylor

02-07-2005, 01:40 PM	#14
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	Young made the HOF because of the idiotic idea that winning a super bowl somehow makes a player a true great and the ring validates his place in the hall. Super bowl championships are very overrated when it comes to making a player HOF worthy. Dan Marino is the greatest qb of all time and I have hear people all the time say he is questionable because he was not lucky enough to be on a super bowl winning team.

02-07-2005, 02:18 PM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 52 Posts: 99,569	Guys, Young led the league in passing 6 times (that's tied for the NFL record), he's got over 30,000 passing yards and over 4000 rushing yards. He has 232 passing TD's and 43 rushing TD's as well. He's ranked in the top 20 of all-time QB's in 3 different categories, completions, passing yards and passing TD's. He was a 7 time Pro Bowl selection and 2 time league MVP. I'd say numbers wise he stacks up pretty well, and his Super Bowl win where he tossed 6 TD's (Super Bowl record) is just icing on the cake. Personally I can't argue with his selection, just my opinion of course.

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