Fears

diehardskin2982 · 02-15-2005, 04:33 PM

With all this talk about who's going where, who's courting who, and so on. Who do u not want to see on any of the other NFC east teams. I have four guys that come to mind for me;

Shaun Alexander (rumor to be pursued by the eagles)
Plaxico Burres
Ricky Willams (rumored to get interest from Cowboys among others)
Trevor Pryce ( Another cowboys interest)

And lets not even talk about Moss! All are awesome players and would cause problems. Are there any rumors u guys might of heard or players u don't want to see twice a year. :confused:

dirtbag2112 · 02-15-2005, 04:40 PM

Hopefully we get Plax. Dallas could pick up anyone and I still wouldnt be scared. I doubt Philly will go after Shaun Alexander whereas Seattle will likely resign him and Philly will resign Westbrook. Both solid backs with good hands, I'd like to think each team will be smart and retain those guys.

offiss · 02-15-2005, 04:49 PM

Plax is overated, I hope we don't spend good money on him, as for the rest of those player's Alexander is the only one who would make a significant difference, I am not worried at all.

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-15-2005, 04:46 PM

I know that we might not want other teams to get certain players, but that's what comes along with the territory. If we are going to be a good team we have to expect that our draft and free agent decisions will be sound and that because of what WE do and not what others do will determine if we are contenders or not.

I have no fears.

skinsguy · 02-15-2005, 04:57 PM

I would just like players to follow in the footsteps of those at New England. Stay and win championships..be a good team and keep the team together....screw the paycheck....

TheMalcolmConnection · 02-15-2005, 05:11 PM

Exactly, apparently New England didn't have anything to worry about. Look who's wearing a brand new Super Bowl ring and it ain't the Eagles.

Gmanc711 · 02-15-2005, 05:55 PM

Shaun Alexander. The Eagles are only team that really scare me; so I'll just worry about them. If we finsih below NY or Dallas again, it will be because we suck ass and not because they got so much better. The only person from that list who would make a real impact on the Eagles is Shaun Alexander. If he went to the Eagles, watch the hell out, they are going to be my favorites to win the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could add one of those guys, but really who up there would make them that much better? Records aside (obviously records are what matter, but you know what I'm sayin), I think we have the second best team in the NFC East, and I dont think by adding any of the above guys, the Giants or Cowboys would jump ahead. However if the Eagles got Alexander; they would move much further ahead, at least in my eyes.

diehardskin2982 · 02-15-2005, 06:13 PM

if the eagles were to sign Alexander they would also try to keep westbrook, doing similar to pittsburgh were one or both take a reduced salary for superbowl glory. Last season Dallas had the #1 defense overall and Pryce would be anticipated to bring them back to glory. Ricky, regaurdless of what he does in his spare time he is still one of the best on the field.

bedlamVR · 02-15-2005, 07:20 PM

First up i am really not sold on the Eagles as the NFC Pats. The Eagles benifit from being the best of the worst or the nicest of the Dammed . Look at any of the playoff teams from the NFC this year and compare them to previous years and you cannot help being embaressed . The Rams, the Vikes the Seahwaks and the Falcons are just not championship quality teams one dimentional and highly floored and do not even get me started on the Farve turnover fest . I am not saying the AFC are leaps and bounds ahead but the Colts, Steelers, Chargers and Pats are all definatly on a higher tier than anything the NFC had to offer this year.

Alexander isn't going to push the Eagles over the top. If they had a firey runner to take the game and run with it to get the preasure of McNabb which something they sorley need to do. Westbrook gets 6+ yards per carry but one of the lightest workloads in the NFL some reserves had more carries than him . Fair enough if it was a young Priest Holmes or maybe a Julius Jones or even a young Bettis someone who is hungry enough to take charge then that might be enough but the thing is Alexander just isnt that guy and if the Seahawks don't keep him I think it is a case of buyer beware just maybe he is just past his best.

Chemistry is everything you just cannot keep adding more and more parts to a team like the Eagles and hope nothing changes. Everyone says how he Pats change this change that but the secret to the Pats is the system where you can plug a no name in there and not skip a beat. The Eagles is becoming a collection of names where a player like Owens goes down and they loose two meaningless but ugly games they should have won even with backups.

sportscurmudgeon · 02-15-2005, 08:09 PM

bedlamVR:

Careful here. If the Eagles should have beaten the Bengals easily even with their backups, what does that say about the Redskins who used all their regulars and - - take a breath here - - lost to the Bengals.

The Eagles backups are that much better than the Redskins regulars?

I don't think so...

CRT3 · 02-15-2005, 09:02 PM

The Eagles will not need a back. Please remember that Corel Buckhalter and Bruce Perry were place on IR at the beginning of the year. Buckhalter in many eyes is the best back. Watch them go after another reciever and maybe O line.

SmootSmack · 02-15-2005, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRT3

The Eagles will not need a back. Please remember that Corel Buckhalter and Bruce Perry were place on IR at the beginning of the year. Buckhalter in many eyes is the best back. Watch them go after another reciever and maybe O line.

Buckhalter is an unrestricted free agent, do you think they might let him go considering his injury history? Didn't he miss two of the last three years with a knee injury?

MTK · 02-16-2005, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smootsmack

Buckhalter is an unrestricted free agent, do you think they might let him go considering his injury history? Didn't he miss two of the last three years with a knee injury?

I would let him go.

Even if they keep him I'm not sure how much they can rely on him at least early in the season. It normally take a player a year to fully recover from a knee injury.

The Eagles love Westbrook so assuming they get him re-signed the chances of them bringing in someone like Alexander is probably slim.

I still think they would greatly benefit from having someone who can gain the tough yards late in games, but hey, I won't complain if they don't bring in someone like Alexander, that's for sure.

KLHJ2 · 02-15-2005, 09:49 PM

I agree they do not need another back. I forsee them replacing some of the age that they have on their team. I still believe that we should do the same.

KLHJ2 · 02-15-2005, 09:46 PM

To be honest all teams have players that can make an impact in the right system. Just because a player was a huge impact in one system does not mean that the same will apply in another, especially after a few years of aging. Football players are not like wine. I know that somebody is going to throw T.O. in my face, but he left one west coast offense for another. Imagine if he would have been placed somewhere like Baltimore, Tampa Bay or Washington. Would he still have been a huge impact?

02-15-2005, 04:40 PM	#2
dirtbag2112 Special Teams Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 293	Re: Fears Hopefully we get Plax. Dallas could pick up anyone and I still wouldnt be scared. I doubt Philly will go after Shaun Alexander whereas Seattle will likely resign him and Philly will resign Westbrook. Both solid backs with good hands, I'd like to think each team will be smart and retain those guys.

02-15-2005, 04:49 PM	#3
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 60 Posts: 3,097	Re: Fears Plax is overated, I hope we don't spend good money on him, as for the rest of those player's Alexander is the only one who would make a significant difference, I am not worried at all.

02-15-2005, 04:46 PM	#4
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Fears I know that we might not want other teams to get certain players, but that's what comes along with the territory. If we are going to be a good team we have to expect that our draft and free agent decisions will be sound and that because of what WE do and not what others do will determine if we are contenders or not. I have no fears. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-15-2005, 04:57 PM	#5
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	Re: Fears I would just like players to follow in the footsteps of those at New England. Stay and win championships..be a good team and keep the team together....screw the paycheck.... __________________ "Fire Up That Diesel!"

02-15-2005, 05:11 PM	#6
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,225	Re: Fears Exactly, apparently New England didn't have anything to worry about. Look who's wearing a brand new Super Bowl ring and it ain't the Eagles. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

02-15-2005, 04:33 PM	#1
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Fears With all this talk about who's going where, who's courting who, and so on. Who do u not want to see on any of the other NFC east teams. I have four guys that come to mind for me; Shaun Alexander (rumor to be pursued by the eagles) Plaxico Burres Ricky Willams (rumored to get interest from Cowboys among others) Trevor Pryce ( Another cowboys interest) And lets not even talk about Moss! All are awesome players and would cause problems. Are there any rumors u guys might of heard or players u don't want to see twice a year. :confused: __________________ That got ugly fast

02-15-2005, 05:55 PM	#7
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 39 Posts: 7,506	Re: Fears Shaun Alexander. The Eagles are only team that really scare me; so I'll just worry about them. If we finsih below NY or Dallas again, it will be because we suck ass and not because they got so much better. The only person from that list who would make a real impact on the Eagles is Shaun Alexander. If he went to the Eagles, watch the hell out, they are going to be my favorites to win the Super Bowl. The Cowboys could add one of those guys, but really who up there would make them that much better? Records aside (obviously records are what matter, but you know what I'm sayin), I think we have the second best team in the NFC East, and I dont think by adding any of the above guys, the Giants or Cowboys would jump ahead. However if the Eagles got Alexander; they would move much further ahead, at least in my eyes. __________________ #21

02-15-2005, 06:13 PM	#8
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Fears if the eagles were to sign Alexander they would also try to keep westbrook, doing similar to pittsburgh were one or both take a reduced salary for superbowl glory. Last season Dallas had the #1 defense overall and Pryce would be anticipated to bring them back to glory. Ricky, regaurdless of what he does in his spare time he is still one of the best on the field. __________________ That got ugly fast

02-15-2005, 07:20 PM	#9
bedlamVR Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 389	Re: Fears First up i am really not sold on the Eagles as the NFC Pats. The Eagles benifit from being the best of the worst or the nicest of the Dammed . Look at any of the playoff teams from the NFC this year and compare them to previous years and you cannot help being embaressed . The Rams, the Vikes the Seahwaks and the Falcons are just not championship quality teams one dimentional and highly floored and do not even get me started on the Farve turnover fest . I am not saying the AFC are leaps and bounds ahead but the Colts, Steelers, Chargers and Pats are all definatly on a higher tier than anything the NFC had to offer this year. Alexander isn't going to push the Eagles over the top. If they had a firey runner to take the game and run with it to get the preasure of McNabb which something they sorley need to do. Westbrook gets 6+ yards per carry but one of the lightest workloads in the NFL some reserves had more carries than him . Fair enough if it was a young Priest Holmes or maybe a Julius Jones or even a young Bettis someone who is hungry enough to take charge then that might be enough but the thing is Alexander just isnt that guy and if the Seahawks don't keep him I think it is a case of buyer beware just maybe he is just past his best. Chemistry is everything you just cannot keep adding more and more parts to a team like the Eagles and hope nothing changes. Everyone says how he Pats change this change that but the secret to the Pats is the system where you can plug a no name in there and not skip a beat. The Eagles is becoming a collection of names where a player like Owens goes down and they loose two meaningless but ugly games they should have won even with backups.

02-15-2005, 08:09 PM	#10
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: Fears bedlamVR: Careful here. If the Eagles should have beaten the Bengals easily even with their backups, what does that say about the Redskins who used all their regulars and - - take a breath here - - lost to the Bengals. The Eagles backups are that much better than the Redskins regulars? I don't think so... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

02-15-2005, 09:02 PM	#11
CRT3 Impact Rookie Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Rockville Age: 61 Posts: 795	Re: Fears The Eagles will not need a back. Please remember that Corel Buckhalter and Bruce Perry were place on IR at the beginning of the year. Buckhalter in many eyes is the best back. Watch them go after another reciever and maybe O line.

02-15-2005, 09:49 PM	#14
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: Fears I agree they do not need another back. I forsee them replacing some of the age that they have on their team. I still believe that we should do the same.

02-15-2005, 09:46 PM	#15
KLHJ2 Inactive Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DC Metro Area Age: 46 Posts: 5,829	Re: Fears To be honest all teams have players that can make an impact in the right system. Just because a player was a huge impact in one system does not mean that the same will apply in another, especially after a few years of aging. Football players are not like wine. I know that somebody is going to throw T.O. in my face, but he left one west coast offense for another. Imagine if he would have been placed somewhere like Baltimore, Tampa Bay or Washington. Would he still have been a huge impact?

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