Republican National Convention 2012

[DynamiteRave]

Since the free for all thread is a cluster F of different debates and topics, lets keep strictly to the RNC speakers/events here.

I'll throw one of these up for the DNC when that rolls around as well.

[Dirtbag59]

REPUBLICANS! F**k YEAH!

Best joke I've heard so far though about the RNC is that with Hurricane Issac the Republicans only have to pretend to like Romney for 3 days instead of 4.

[NC_Skins]

[NC_Skins]

Democrats Hit Romney For Outsourcing On Billboard Facing GOP Convention

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.

While it's obvious that the show is bias towards liberal views I do agree with the scenes conclusion which is basically the Tea Party gave the Radical Christian Right, which has slowly continued to become less and less relevant in American politics, a chance to get back into the fray by using the tea party movement as a stepping stone.

I am pleased though that more and more moderates and liberterians are finding their way into the Republican base. Hopefully in the near future it will allow the party to wane off the radical Christian Right completely and get back to focusing on big issues like the economy and foreign policy. And to think the Republican party use to be the party that was all about Civil Rights.

Keep in mind I have no problem or quarrel with Christianity. Rather I have a problem with people who turn and twist the Bible to blur the lines between separation of Church and State as well as justify bigotry and sexism.

[Dirtbag59]

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.

While it's obvious that the show is bias towards liberal views I do agree with the scenes conclusion which is basically the Tea Party gave the Radical Christian Right, which has slowly continued to become less and less relevant in American politics, a chance to get back into the fray by using the tea party movement as a stepping stone.

I am pleased though that more and more moderates and liberterians are finding their way into the Republican base. Hopefully in the near future it will allow the party to wane off the radical Christian Right completely and get back to focusing on big issues like the economy and foreign policy. And to think the Republican party use to be the party that was all about Civil Rights.

Keep in mind I have no problem or quarrel with Christianity. Rather I have a problem with people who turn and twist the Bible to blur the lines between separation of Church and State as well as justify bigotry and sexism.

I don't see their relevance as eroding at all...unfortunately. To me...a fiscal conservative, they are the worst thing in American politics. They give conservatism a bad name.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

This says it a little better. I read an article today about the Tea Party which stated that what started out as a movement about reducing government spending and involvement in our lives turned into a chance for the radical Christian Right to come in and tack on issues like outlawing abortion and gay marriage and in turn redefine the tea party all without being labeled as the Radical Christian Right. It's basically the same premise as a shady business man that has screwed customers starting another business under a new name then shortly thereafter resorting to the same business practices that got them their shady reputation.

Speaking of the TeaParty, I saw this picture the other day and thought about this discussion.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Speaking of the TeaParty, I saw this picture the other day and thought about this discussion.

That post is full of win. Gonna save it and share it on my facebook now.

[DynamiteRave]

Well this should be an interesting night. I'm hoping for some gaffes but that probably won't happen.

[DynamiteRave]

Read they are turning away Ron Paul busses from the convention and Ron Paul supporters got into it with Romney supporters.

Gotta love in-fighting.

Chaos On The GOP Convention Floor

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Read they are turning away Ron Paul busses from the convention and Ron Paul supporters got into it with Romney supporters.

Gotta love in-fighting.

Chaos On The GOP Convention Floor

The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."

Rand Paul has also been a proponent of keeping the Pentagon in check....and I agree.

Also, Iraq was based on intel from Clinton hold-over George Tenat and had massive bi-partisan support.

If ObamaCare survived the SCOTUS, no way Roe v. Wade comes anywhere close to being overturned.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The part that scares me is when they talk about stuff like the heavy emphasis on "strengthening our military." Aren't they suppose to be the ones to reduce spending? I know Paul Ryan is one of the few members of the GOP with enough guts to even talk about auditing the pentagon and limiting military spending but it looks like every one else is itching to go to war with Iran.

Do they not remember Iraq where they tortured people to get them to say the information they wanted to hear and ended up spending a trillion dollars to essentially kill one evil dictator that did not have any nuclear weapons due to unreliable information that was gathered by torture.

4 years later begging for a second chance and I just can't help but shake the feeling that they're going to repeat the same stupid mistakes.

At this rate I'm starting to wonder if we're better off electing Obama. At least then gay marriage will have a shot and Roe vs Wade won't be overturned by the GOP "activist judges."

Can you post any links of Mit or Ryan itching to go to war with Iran. You can support a strong military and make it stronger by auditing the pentagon. If the Military has a budget of a certain $ amount every dollar of waste found in an audit is another dollar that they can spend on something else.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Can you post any links of Mit or Ryan itching to go to war with Iran. You can support a strong military and make it stronger by auditing the pentagon. If the Military has a budget of a certain $ amount every dollar of waste found in an audit is another dollar that they can spend on something else.

Romney, Gingrich at GOP debate: We'd go to war to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

Updated Nov. 13, 1:00 a.m. Eastern Time

SPARTANBURG, S.C. -- Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich said at the Republican presidential debate here Saturday night that they would be willing to go to war to keep Iran from attaining nuclear weapons if all other strategies failed.

Romney said that if "crippling sanctions" and other strategies fail, military action would be on the table because it is "unacceptable" for Iran to become a nuclear power.

Mitt Romney Says He Could Wage War on Iran Without Congress' Approval