I can't wait to hear the other side...

JoeRedskin · 03-08-2005, 02:10 PM

Man, Coles was one unhappy dude - In the story, according to Coles, Gibbs "basically" said he didn't trust Coles and Coles said he didn't trust Gibbs.

I wonder what it was that they didn't trust each other about?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...les/index.html

JWsleep · 03-08-2005, 02:18 PM

From the SI article:

Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take."

Good ridance. :vomit-smi

Daseal · 03-08-2005, 02:26 PM

You don't feel he has any sort of footing here? You feel as a great receiver you go to your coach and say "Hey coach, they like to do a), b) and c). I think if we tried a _____ then we would be able to get some yards.
coach: shutup and sit down - I call the plays.

Really - shouldn't you take input from players on the field who know a lot better than one man trying to watch every player on the field what's going on out there? Shouldn't you try to run plays that your players are comfortable with and feel they may accel with? Coles isn't asking for every play to be the one he suggests. Just to maybe mix it up some.

JoeRedskin · 03-08-2005, 02:36 PM

If it's a true and accurate statement, I would agree Daseal. But - I have a hard time believing Gibbs wouldn't want input from his players. Rather, this could be a classic case of two people who speak english talking in different languages.

Daseal · 03-08-2005, 02:38 PM

He may listen, but it certainly didn't look like he implimented any plays Coles would have liked.

SkinsRock · 03-08-2005, 02:58 PM

I can see his point, but when the coach is considered one of the all-time top coaches ever, I'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt and shut up. Coles was unhappy because he was being used more as a possession receiver because of his toe problem instead of a burner. Boo hoo. I can think of about 13 million reasons why he should do what the head coach says, like it or not.

JoeRedskin · 03-08-2005, 02:43 PM

True enough. Of course, that doesn't mean the plays Coles would have liked would have worked any better.

Funbunchfan · 03-08-2005, 02:46 PM

I dont believe coles statement for a minute.

saden1 · 03-08-2005, 02:48 PM

One should listen to players. I don't know though, Gibbs seems to listen to Portis about plays.

MTK · 03-08-2005, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saden1

One should listen to players. I don't know though, Gibbs seems to listen to Portis about plays.

It's funny I was watching the 2nd Skins-Giants game last night and the announcers talked about how Portis and Gibbs talked during the week and how Portis pleaded for more carries.

Gibbs listens to his players, there's obviously something there between Gibbs and Coles that goes a little deeper.

They just don't see eye to eye on things, and that's fine. See ya in NY Coles.

AndySkinUK · 03-08-2005, 02:49 PM

Coles has 0 Superbowl rings

Gibbs has 3 Superbowl rings

I know who i believe, and my guy has a healthy toe.

gortiz · 03-08-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySkinUK

I know who i believe, and my guy has a healthy toe.

that was damn funny. . . .UK

Man, give me a break. This little turd called calls has made one pro bowl and has pissed off evey team he has played for....SEEEEEEEEEEEEE YA!

FRPLG · 03-08-2005, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySkinUK

I know who i believe, and my guy has a healthy toe.

Yeah that was funny. Didn't make laugh 10 minutes ago when I was about to break something in anger but it does now.

monk81 · 03-09-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySkinUK

Coles has 0 Superbowl rings

Gibbs has 3 Superbowl rings

I know who i believe, and my guy has a healthy toe.

AMEN AndySKINUK :headbange

sportscurmudgeon · 03-09-2005, 09:50 PM

FRPLG:

Interestingly, you didn't skip over the one post I had here that said you were a bit near the edge. Amazing coincidence no?

If you think others here are also tired of my posts, you're probably right. But as usual, you're guessing and speculating because I'll wager you can't read minds. I know you can't read mine right now...

You don't like my negativity. Good for you. Read other posts. I don't think it's particularly useful to sit around and pretend that everything is wonderful and perfect with regard to a team that has gone 11-21 in the past two years and is below .500 since the day Danny Boy took over. You think that's just swell? Keep on keepin' on.

03-08-2005, 02:10 PM	#1
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	I can't wait to hear the other side... Man, Coles was one unhappy dude - In the story, according to Coles, Gibbs "basically" said he didn't trust Coles and Coles said he didn't trust Gibbs. I wonder what it was that they didn't trust each other about? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...les/index.html

03-08-2005, 02:18 PM	#2
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,719	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... From the SI article: Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take." Good ridance. :vomit-smi __________________ Hail from Houston!

03-08-2005, 02:26 PM	#3
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... You don't feel he has any sort of footing here? You feel as a great receiver you go to your coach and say "Hey coach, they like to do a), b) and c). I think if we tried a _____ then we would be able to get some yards. coach: shutup and sit down - I call the plays. Really - shouldn't you take input from players on the field who know a lot better than one man trying to watch every player on the field what's going on out there? Shouldn't you try to run plays that your players are comfortable with and feel they may accel with? Coles isn't asking for every play to be the one he suggests. Just to maybe mix it up some.

03-08-2005, 02:36 PM	#4
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... If it's a true and accurate statement, I would agree Daseal. But - I have a hard time believing Gibbs wouldn't want input from his players. Rather, this could be a classic case of two people who speak english talking in different languages.

03-08-2005, 02:38 PM	#5
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 41 Posts: 8,341	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... He may listen, but it certainly didn't look like he implimented any plays Coles would have liked.

03-08-2005, 02:58 PM	#6
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 55 Posts: 907	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... I can see his point, but when the coach is considered one of the all-time top coaches ever, I'd have to give him the benefit of the doubt and shut up. Coles was unhappy because he was being used more as a possession receiver because of his toe problem instead of a burner. Boo hoo. I can think of about 13 million reasons why he should do what the head coach says, like it or not.

03-08-2005, 02:43 PM	#7
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... True enough. Of course, that doesn't mean the plays Coles would have liked would have worked any better.

03-08-2005, 02:46 PM	#8
Funbunchfan Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: connecticut Age: 59 Posts: 47	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... I dont believe coles statement for a minute.

03-08-2005, 02:48 PM	#9
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... One should listen to players. I don't know though, Gibbs seems to listen to Portis about plays.

03-08-2005, 02:49 PM	#11
AndySkinUK Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Age: 51 Posts: 44	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... Coles has 0 Superbowl rings Gibbs has 3 Superbowl rings I know who i believe, and my guy has a healthy toe. __________________ Don't Panic

03-09-2005, 09:50 PM	#15
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Re: I can't wait to hear the other side... FRPLG: Interestingly, you didn't skip over the one post I had here that said you were a bit near the edge. Amazing coincidence no? If you think others here are also tired of my posts, you're probably right. But as usual, you're guessing and speculating because I'll wager you can't read minds. I know you can't read mine right now... You don't like my negativity. Good for you. Read other posts. I don't think it's particularly useful to sit around and pretend that everything is wonderful and perfect with regard to a team that has gone 11-21 in the past two years and is below .500 since the day Danny Boy took over. You think that's just swell? Keep on keepin' on. __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

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